ERAU $46,000/yr?!?!

[slamma1906]

A fellow Alum and I were lookin at current tuition and flight fees, and it came up to about $46,000/yr. How is that legal/ethical/moral/right?

[jtrain609]

You ever check what Western Michigan was for an out of state student?

[tgrayson]

Originally Posted by slamma1906

A fellow Alum and I were lookin at current tuition and flight fees, and it came up to about $46,000/yr. How is that legal/ethical/moral/right?

Ethics or morality has nothing to do with it. You either buy it or you don't.

[abrutus]

That is just plain non-sense to me!!.
Since when did Flight school /college got more expensive than med school!
Im in med school and still pay way less than that!. That its just a rip off.. Seriously. HOW IN THE WORLD ARE YOU GONNA PAY OVER 100K For a BS Degree and 250hrs!!! get out of here..
You could easily get 300+ hrs. A bs degree, and a couple of Type ratings with that ammount of money.
Seriously.....
I know fuel prices have gonne up.. but I dont think it justifies that tuition cost.
Back when I tought about going into ERAU before going to med school, I went up there (daytona) and tuition was 20k per year plus 10k flight expenses.. and I tought It high...
Just imagine coming out with a 100k Loan and getting straight into a regional making 19k per year.... HAVE MERCY!

[970Flyer]

I started at ERAU DAB in '98. The tuition as I remember was $400 per credit hour and I was on the "fixed price" flight program which allowed me to do everything from private through multi-commercial for $26k. The CFI's milked that program! The $46k/yr sounds about right given it's 10 years later and the fixed price flight program was 86'ed long ago.

[GalaxyIFE]

It's a private school. Take it or leave it. Some might argue that 60K for a 90 day course at ATP is too much. Again...it's all about choices.

When I saw the 46,000 a year, I thought the thread was going to be what they are paying CFIs now. Oh well.

[bike21]

Dagnabbit, once again everything in the world goes up in price except for ticket prices and our salaries

How the deuce can someone expect to pay those loans off for nearly 190k at our pay rates? Good thing I went to a full on 4 year college THEN did flight training Loans blow folks, there are other ways to do it.

[Matt13C]

I was 3 days away from taking the plunge and I decided against it. It was not until I spoke to what appeared to be the only honest member of the faculty did I have a clear understanding of what I was about to get myself into. He told me since I already have a 4 year degree that I would be wasting over 100k on a second degree that is not worth anything outside of aviation. Nobody else even mentioned that I did not need a second degree, one lady even told me, "well, that degree is nice, but over half of the pilots in the sky have an ERAU degree, which do you think will be more beneficial?"

[jtrain609]

I know a guy who made that mistake, he's over $200 large in debt now and for what?

[wheelsup]

I'd leave the US if I had $200k in debt from aviation. Transfer my licenses to china, or brazil or something. That goes beyond anything reasonable for college and flight training.

[GalaxyIFE]

Originally Posted by jtrain609

I know a guy who made that mistake, he's over $200 large in debt now and for what?

Now come on Jtrain....haven't you SEEN what the degree looks like?! Man it's so SWEEEEEEEEETTTTTT.

Speaking of which, I called to get a replacment diploma from Embry-Ridiculous (now I know why the name) and it is 40 bucks!!! WTF man!!! It's an 8.5x11 inch piece of paper man!!!! I think I'll just print one off the internet.

[jtrain609]

Hey man I think my university might have charged me for mine to begin with. The state school I went to, in the four and a half years I was there, increased tuition from $140 a credit hour to something like $265 a credit hour when it was all said and done, and they were pinching pennies at every chance they got. The price of higher education in this country is out of control.

[youngflyer]

Originally Posted by jtrain609

Hey man I think my university might have charged me for mine to begin with. The state school I went to, in the four and a half years I was there, increased tuition from $140 a credit hour to something like $265 a credit hour when it was all said and done, and they were pinching pennies at every chance they got. The price of higher education in this country is out of control.

Tell me about it. I am looking for colleges and you see so many crazy prices. I am hoping my parents will pay for my tuition like they said that they would and I would pay for flight training.

[jtrain609]

Originally Posted by youngflyer

Tell me about it. I am looking for colleges and you see so many crazy prices. I am hoping my parents will pay for my tuition like they said that they would and I would pay for flight training.

Milk that if you can bro. I'm only 25 and I'm already trying to figure out how I'm gonna put MY kids through college, and I don't even have kids! I can't believe how expensive it's getting.

[Ian J]

For any of you kids in HS... if you earn an Army ROTC scholarship (not that hard to get), they will pay full tuition plus a stipend to just about any school you want. At the school I instructed at, that was the equivalent of being handed an $85,000 check.

[GalaxyIFE]

Originally Posted by Ian J

For any of you kids in HS... if you earn an Army ROTC scholarship (not that hard to get), they will pay full tuition plus a stipend to just about any school you want. At the school I instructed at, that was the equivalent of being handed an $85,000 check.

Yipper....good way to go. So far the AF has paid for my bachelor's and master's degrees and will be paying for a sizable chunk of my flight training costs. Not a bad deal IMHO.

[caliginousface]

That's why I left! Amongst other reasons.

$40000 down to $4000/year. Can ya dig it?

[youngflyer]

Originally Posted by GalaxyIFE

Yipper....good way to go. So far the AF has paid for my bachelor's and master's degrees and will be paying for a sizable chunk of my flight training costs. Not a bad deal IMHO.

That is true. But then you have a 4 year commitment. Right?

[bronco21016]

Originally Posted by jtrain609

Hey man I think my university might have charged me for mine to begin with. The state school I went to, in the four and a half years I was there, increased tuition from $140 a credit hour to something like $265 a credit hour when it was all said and done, and they were pinching pennies at every chance they got. The price of higher education in this country is out of control.

Those sort of tuition increases go to things like this at my university. Read down a few paragraphs to get some $ values.

It's absolutely absurd.
That's why I make them pay my tuition.

[jtrain609]

It's shame what's happening to that university. It's been doing downhill ever since 2003 or so.

[bronco21016]

I'm just wrapping up my second year here and I'm already seeing things fall down.

There are some positives going on in the College of Aviation right now though. First, instructors are getting a decent benefits package. Also, we now have an Aviation Student Council that has been working hard on several issues and has really hit the transportation issue hard. Main campus is in Kalamazoo, obviously, and then the airport is Battle Creek which is about a 25 mile drive. Well with gas around $3.25 and 5 flight slots a week that's painful. So the student council has managed to have parking passes waived for aviation students which is a savings of about $350/year and that is only a temporary solution as they work on getting the university to give us a bus that runs hourly to the airport.

I guess what I'm saying is there is still hope...

Luckily, I'll be out of here next year! I'll miss college life but I certainly won't miss them stealing all of my money.

[mojo6911]

I got the same degree from their extended campus for a lot less than one year at the Daytona or Prescott campus. They gave me a lot of credit for Private-Comm. multi, and it was less than $200 per credit hour.

[jynxyjoe]

It wasn't that expensive when I went there.

[JA Yawd Bwoy]

Originally Posted by youngflyer

Tell me about it. I am looking for colleges and you see so many crazy prices. I am hoping my parents will pay for my tuition like they said that they would and I would pay for flight training.

Do you really wan't to put your parent's through that?

Me on the other hand I am going to Vaughn College to double major in Airport/Airline Management (as you know buddy) where it is only 14,000$ a year which is about 56,000$ for my whole bachelors degree. Then saying my degree's/cert's run me about 40,000$ at most (hopefully) that is only 96,000$ which is 88,000$ less then ER. Remember my freind, no one cares if you have a 4 year degree in flippin burgers, as long as it is accredited, and it show's work ethic

Not trying to tell you what to do, just saying that 88,000 can get you a damn fine Range Rover, and maybe a visit from Kristen Extreme, you get the point

[JDMcFly]

Went to community college = Less than $4000 a year. Covered by TAP/PELL. I did have approx 8k in loans, mostly paying for a place to live.

Going to UVSC = Approx $2500 a semester. Pell Covers.

Total College Tuition Cost = ~$18,000 (mostly free thanks to grants). $166,000 Cheaper than ERAU. Guess who cares whether my degree is from Riddle or Utah Valley?

Not including flight, of course. For that it will be 8k(carryover)+WhatevereIEndUpPayingForFlight