ERAU $46,000/yr?!?!

[slamma1906]

Originally Posted by bronco21016

I'm just wrapping up my second year here and I'm already seeing things fall down.

There are some positives going on in the College of Aviation right now though. First, instructors are getting a decent benefits package. Also, we now have an Aviation Student Council that has been working hard on several issues and has really hit the transportation issue hard. Main campus is in Kalamazoo, obviously, and then the airport is Battle Creek which is about a 25 mile drive. Well with gas around $3.25 and 5 flight slots a week that's painful. So the student council has managed to have parking passes waived for aviation students which is a savings of about $350/year and that is only a temporary solution as they work on getting the university to give us a bus that runs hourly to the airport.

I guess what I'm saying is there is still hope...

Luckily, I'll be out of here next year! I'll miss college life but I certainly won't miss them stealing all of my money.

I went to Riddle but instructed at WMU. IF they can get hourly transportation to BTL, that would be awesome!

[Fly_Unity]

Originally Posted by JDMcFly

Went to community college = Less than $4000 a year. Covered by TAP/PELL. I did have approx 8k in loans, mostly paying for a place to live.

Going to UVSC = Approx $2500 a semester. Pell Covers.

Total College Tuition Cost = ~$18,000 (mostly free thanks to grants). $166,000 Cheaper than ERAU. Guess who cares whether my degree is from Riddle or Utah Valley?

Not including flight, of course. For that it will be 8k(carryover)+WhatevereIEndUpPayingForFlight

Just a quick question, how do you get your grants? Im enrolled at UVSC and been paying for every penny of it

[JDMcFly]

Originally Posted by Fly_Unity

Just a quick question, how do you get your grants? Im enrolled at UVSC and been paying for every penny of it

Fill out FAFSA +be poor enough (and have poor enough parents if younger than 24)

[ElyJs]

http://www.aims.edu

I didn't do it but a good program for 30 grand total!

I don't feel bad for people that go to ERAU or ATP, they didn't do their research well enough or money just wasn't a factor for them.

[srleslie]

Originally Posted by ElyJs

http://www.aims.edu

I didn't do it but a good program for 30 grand total!

I don't feel bad for people that go to ERAU or ATP, they didn't do their research well enough or money just wasn't a factor for them.

Um yeah that's great and all but for an airline aspiring pilot kind of defeats the purpose of spending 30K for an associates degree when you need a bachelors.....

[chrisdahut1]

Originally Posted by srleslie

Um yeah that's great and all but for an airline aspiring pilot kind of defeats the purpose of spending 30K for an associates degree when you need a bachelors.....

How about this for a plan then: spend a fraction of the cost and get an A.S. degree. Get your certificates and ratings cheaper at the same time. Transfer the said A.S. degree to ERAU, along with credit for licenses and ratings, which can lower the remaining credit needed to get a B.S. degree to as little as 30 credit hours. You end up paying just a fraction of the overall price it would have cost to attend ERAU for the full 4 years, but walk away with the EXACT same degree.

[GoGators85]

Originally Posted by chrisdahut1

How about this for a plan then: spend a fraction of the cost and get an A.S. degree. Get your certificates and ratings cheaper at the same time. Transfer the said A.S. degree to ERAU, along with credit for licenses and ratings, which can lower the remaining credit needed to get a B.S. degree to as little as 30 credit hours. You end up paying just a fraction of the overall price it would have cost to attend ERAU for the full 4 years, but walk away with the EXACT same degree.

Better yet, go to a in state university and do your ratings on the side. I'm not sure what scholarship packages other states offer, but in Florida I was able to go to school for a grand total of $35 dollars a semester, which covered books and tuition. An additional perk was having a degree in a field other than aviation, which not only gives me flexibility if I'm ever furloughed but also differentiates me from other people competing with me for a job. The education and experience you'll receive from a state university is worth its weight in gold and it won't leave you with the curse of a life long monetary debt.

[AirVenture]

The sad thing is that people are willing to pay this for an aviation school that's not all that different from the rest. I went to a small private college with a flight degree that cost $18,000/yr, but about half of that was taken care of by scholarships from the University. We fly the same planes and are taught by former students just like everywhere else. Not to mention planes are plentiful and we can rent them and even go into IMC! Classes are taught by professionals in the aviation industry. I guess we don't have a beach nearby, but with the extra money you could fly first class to any beach in the world you wanted!

-Brett

[Bandit_Driver]

Originally Posted by jtrain609

You ever check what Western Michigan was for an out of state student?

IN State and Out of State are both expensive but Out of State is up there.

[srleslie]

Originally Posted by GoGators85

Better yet, go to a in state university and do your ratings on the side. I'm not sure what scholarship packages other states offer, but in Florida I was able to go to school for a grand total of $35 dollars a semester, which covered books and tuition. An additional perk was having a degree in a field other than aviation, which not only gives me flexibility if I'm ever furloughed but also differentiates me from other people competing with me for a job. The education and experience you'll receive from a state university is worth its weight in gold and it won't leave you with the curse of a life long monetary debt.

Exactly...I'm going to a state university and not having to pay one dime for my tuition. I am taking out some loans for living expenses but they are relativey small. When the time comes to go to an FBO for flight training it will be a lot easier to spend the 30K or so for my ratings when I don't have much debt from getting my degree.

[slamma1906]

Originally Posted by srleslie

Exactly...I'm going to a state university and not having to pay one dime for my tuition. I am taking out some loans for living expenses but they are relativey small. When the time comes to go to an FBO for flight training it will be a lot easier to spend the 30K or so for my ratings when I don't have much debt from getting my degree.

If I could do it all over again, I would do it the way u r. Hind-sight is alwayz 20/20!

[CE525BGuy]

What the heck is UND charging these days? Last I heard, they were making students pay $4000 a year to rent a computer (required) and muti costs were over $300 an hr.....

[germb747]

Speaking from ERAU, one of my buddies from UPT recently completed his master's degree from ERAU-worldwide (online). Anyone know how much this (roughly) costs? I'm sure GI benefits will pay for some of it, and I have enough free time sitting in hotels I could probably stand to knock out a master's degree in the process. Anyone have experience with ERAU--online program?

[bronco21016]

Originally Posted by germb747

Speaking from ERAU, one of my buddies from UPT recently completed his master's degree from ERAU-worldwide (online). Anyone know how much this (roughly) costs? I'm sure GI benefits will pay for some of it, and I have enough free time sitting in hotels I could probably stand to knock out a master's degree in the process. Anyone have experience with ERAU--online program?

What kind of master's degree is it?

[barnstormer09]

I wanted to go to Riddle out of high school... then I saw the price... I have a hard time stomaching more per year of college than my mom and I made combined...
So I went to a state school with an aviation program. I still think I'm paying too much, but I'll be walking out with a degree, CFI, CFII, and MEI, and only about $30K in loans. So Natch.

[taildragger173]

Originally Posted by CE525BGuy

What the heck is UND charging these days? Last I heard, they were making students pay $4000 a year to rent a computer (required) and muti costs were over $300 an hr.....

You had one too many zeros there buddy with the laptop price.

UND is actually rather in-expensive compared to some of the other college level flight schools. After a year there you can qualify for in-state tuition which adds up to big savings. In-State tuition runs aprox. $6100 a year. Flight costs are roughly the same as any other location (in my experience).

[bronxpilot]

I crunched the numbers on UND a couple of times and it seems ery affordable even for out of state
Wow 46 seems liberal for Riddle my friend told me he calculated it to be 63. Either way its insultingly rediculous

[germb747]

Originally Posted by bronco21016

What kind of master's degree is it?

The online program offers a Master of Science in Management and also a Master of Aeronautical Science.

The degree I'd really like to get is the MBA but it isn't offered online.

[bronco21016]

Originally Posted by germb747

The online program offers a Master of Science in Management and also a Master of Aeronautical Science.

The degree I'd really like to get is the MBA but it isn't offered online.

They both kinda sound like 'useless' aviation degrees just like the Bachelor's degree from most University flight programs. I'm not bashing aviation degrees because I'm getting one but, I honestly don't see any point in getting a Master of Aeronautical Science.

[skidz]

Originally Posted by germb747

Speaking from ERAU, one of my buddies from UPT recently completed his master's degree from ERAU-worldwide (online). Anyone know how much this (roughly) costs? I'm sure GI benefits will pay for some of it, and I have enough free time sitting in hotels I could probably stand to knock out a master's degree in the process. Anyone have experience with ERAU--online program?

The classes for Master's are around 1000 bucks a class, you need around 10 or 12 depending on the subject area. I did some online for my degree, it cost around 640 a class now. Luckily, I could use the military TA which pays all of it. I don't know where the other folks are pulling the numbers from though, the 4 year degree at erau can be finished for about 25k which is in line with most colleges.

[skidz]

Originally Posted by germb747

The degree I'd really like to get is the MBA but it isn't offered online.

I just asked about it recently, they said they will probably offer that online soon. I'll probably go for it if they do.

[bronco21016]

An online MBA would be very worth while.

[JoeBlow]

I graduated from Riddle at the Prescott campus December 2003. At the time it was tough getting an instructor job. During 2004 I decided it would be a great time to pursue an MBA. I studied the GMAT and look for reputable schools. It would have been tough for me to do a full time program and have money left over for living after I received student loans. It was best for me to purse a part time MBA and found a few schools that offer a great online MBA program. I chose Syracuse University. Their online program is the same as their full time program, taught by the same professors. http://whitman.syr.edu/MBA/iMBA/

The nice thing is how flexible the program is. Students can switch between the online program and the fulltime program if they choose. Students entering the full time program must take the GMAT while those accepted into the online program are exempt from taking the GMAT. This is sort of a loophole if you don’t want to take the GMAT. Tuition is expensive though. I fly out to the campus every semester for a week long residency, take my finals, meet my new teachers and class mates. I feel more connected to the program and students with these residencies. Students taking the online program receive all the benefits as the fulltime students, such as using the career center or attending career fairs. The program is marketed towards executives who can’t or don’t want to leave work for two years to pursue an advanced degree. I’m far from being an executive and I got in. I graduate next month. I would avoid getting an MBA from Riddle because it’s not AACSB certified. When choosing an MBA program, make sure it is AACSB certified since it holds weight over programs that don’t. Schools like the University of Phoenix are not AACSB certified and are considered degree mills. Now I have to get a job in the real world.

[Flyin_bryan]

Originally Posted by wheelsup

I'd leave the US if I had $200k in debt from aviation.

I'd also permanently leave for $200,000. Any takers?

[atpwannabe]

Slamma1906:

Yep. 40K sounds abut right.

I visited ERAU last weekend. My sister finished from B-CC University. I stopped by Registration/Visitation/Tours office in the front of the UC. I inquired about the cost and the young lady behind the desk told me that for a NON-FLYING DEGREE, it costs about 160-180K for a 4-year degree.

Glad I went when I did. A non-flying 4-year degree back in '87 cost me less than 25K.




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