will ERAU degree land you in a job

[Adhil]

will a degree from ERAU make you a pilot in a good airline?
how many flight hours will i have after finishing the course? and can i apply to a major airline for a pilot soon after finishing the programme?

[JEP]

Originally Posted by Adhil

#1 will a degree from ERAU make you a pilot in a good airline? #2 how many flight hours will i have after finishing the course? #3 and can i apply to a major airline for a pilot soon after finishing the programme?

#1 No.

#2 Many factors could influence that.

#3 You could if they were hiring. Only problem is you won't have enough hours to meet the minimum requirements.

[aloft]

Originally Posted by Adhil

can i apply to a major airline for a pilot soon after finishing the programme?

Can you apply? Sure. Hell, you can apply right now. Just don't expect to be hired, though.

Most major airlines require 1000 hours of pilot-in-command experience in turbine-powered aircraft (turboprop or jet), which you likely won't start accruing until you've got over 2500 hours of flight experience.

It takes most Embry-Riddle grads 5-7 years to reach a "major airline".

[Toonces]

Originally Posted by Adhil

will a degree from ERAU make you a pilot in a good airline?
how many flight hours will i have after finishing the course? and can i apply to a major airline for a pilot soon after finishing the programme?

Sure a Riddle degree will land you a 250k airline job. Just ask the guys that go there. Hell, they will probably make you captain. After all, Riddle grads are the best trained pilots in the world.

[SteveC]

Originally Posted by Adhil

will a degree from ERAU make you a pilot in a good airline?

Not necessarily. ERAU will give you a good (albeit very expensive) education, but a college degree is only one of many qualifications you must have before flying for a major airline. The major airlines really don't care whether your degree is in an Aviation related field from ERAU, or is in business or accounting or psychology from a state college. Read this article that Doug wrote about College Degrees.

Originally Posted by Adhil

how many flight hours will i have after finishing the course?

Only a few hundred. The number of flight hours will be similar whether you do your flight training at ERAU, or at an FBO (Fixed Base Operator) from a small airport near almost every city in the country. The flight training portion of becoming qualified is probably only the first 5% of the flight hours that you will need to fly for a major airline. The next 95% will be what mold you as a qualified, experienced pilot, and will be earned by Flight Instructing, pipeline patrol, hauling freight, chartering passengers in small aircraft, or flying small "regional" airliners.

You will want to do a lot of studying before deciding where to get your flight training. There is a very large difference in cost, time, and quality of training, and there are no simple answers on which one is the right one. You need to determine what aspects are important to you and sort out all the different options based on your needs. This website, especially the forums, is a great source of information on the many different routes available to you, so plan on spending many hours reading and asking questions.

Originally Posted by Adhil

and can i apply to a major airline for a pilot soon after finishing the programme?

It will take quite a few years after finishing ERAU's program before you will be fully qualified to become a pilot at a major airline. The main jetcareers.com page has links to perspective articles written by many professional pilots on how they reached their goals, and will give you a good idea of what is required. You might start with these two because they were written by ERAU graduates, and Doug is the owner of this website and Don is one of the moderators:
Doug Taylor Perspective
Don Eikenberry Perspective

Spend some time researching the numerous topics that are covered in the links on the left side of the main website page (jetcareers.com), and then spend some more time in the forums reading about other's experiences. There is a Search function that can help you find specific bits of information as you have questions, and you can always post more questions as well.

Enjoy.

[cmsuav8r]

I definately agree that you should look through the forums and the website. I literally spent hundreds of hours on here trying to find information on various topics. Almost any question you have has probably already been answered or can be answered by the fine people here at JC. Happy researching!!!

[boeing 777-300]

ERAU will give you a good (albeit very expensive) education, but a college degree is only one of many qualifications you must have before flying for a major airline.

indeed. you could get your degree in (props to whoever made this one up a while back ) UBW or underwater basket weaving. The airlines wont care. have your hours and ratings and you have just as much chance as anyone else.

Save tens of thousands of dollars and fly at a FBO to get your lisences

[DE727UPS]

"will a degree from ERAU make you a pilot in a good airline?"

Where did you get that idea?

Pilots at good airlines earn their way to those positions through years of hard work and a lot of luck. Where you get your degree has nothing to do with it.

"how many flight hours will i have after finishing the course?"

Enough to get a job as a flight instructor.

"can i apply to a major airline for a pilot soon after finishing the programme?"

At my airline, there is no point in applying until you meet the mins. The hardest one is 1000 hour Pilot in Command time in a turbine powered aircraft. You can't get that at ERAU, or anywhere else, except by working in the biz a while.

[frog_flyer]

jesus christ someone asks these questions every damn day it seems like.

NO. your degree doesnt matter. your hours and ratings do. get htem as cheap as you can. get a degree. go go go. use the search function. go go go.

[SteveC]

Originally Posted by frog_flyer

jesus christ someone asks these questions every damn day it seems like.

NO. your degree doesnt matter. your hours and ratings do. get htem as cheap as you can. get a degree. go go go. use the search function. go go go.

Relax man. People will still be asking these same questions for years to come. They've been doing it for the past however many years, no sense trying to stop them now.

Naw, really, sometimes it takes some extra patience, but you have to remember that the new guys haven't seen the same questions over and over again. You've only been here for six months or so, not nearly enough time to get burned out on the repeat questions yet...

[boeing 777-300]

Sure a Riddle degree will land you a 250k airline job. Just ask the guys that go there. Hell, they will probably make you captain. After all, Riddle grads are the best trained pilots in the world.

i think the the sarcasm tag was broken when this was posted. LoL. Actually no need for a sarcasm tag in this case.

[Champcar]

Originally Posted by Toonces

Sure a Riddle degree will land you a 250k airline job. Just ask the guys that go there. Hell, they will probably make you captain. After all, Riddle grads are the best trained pilots in the world.

LOL that was funny

[Adhil]

do you get the same flight hours whether you get a degree or do a course at an FBO?
anyway thanx for all the responses guys

[boeing 777-300]

An FBO has the following benefits:

1. Fly when it is convenient.

2. Fly through holiday breaks like Spring Break, Winter Break, and even Summer.

3. You can start flying long before college and not have to worry about transfering hours to an aviation college. I dont know your age but lets say that if you are going to start your senior year in sept, you could start flying once or twice a week and have about 75-100 hours by the time you start college.

4. You could probabbly get all your lisences for thousands cheaper at an FBO than at a aviation college.

[Adhil]

what about an academy and UND degree? do they give you the same flight hours?

[USMC-SGT]

as far as hours, no one gives you hours.

You will have at least the FAA minimums no matter where you go, providing that the end result is at least a Commercial SEL with Instrument Priviliges. For those ratings you will have at least in the ballpark of 200, more if part 61. You will most likely also do your CMEL and your CFII/MEI ratings which will also bump up your hours a few. I would say no matter where you go and providing that you leave with those ratings you will have at least 250 hours, in that ballpark but usually more.

[aloft]

In Soviet Russia, plane lands you!

[TFaudree_ERAU]

Originally Posted by boeing 777-300

An FBO has the following benefits:

1. Fly when it is convenient.

2. Fly through holiday breaks like Spring Break, Winter Break, and even Summer.

3. You can start flying long before college and not have to worry about transfering hours to an aviation college. I dont know your age but lets say that if you are going to start your senior year in sept, you could start flying once or twice a week and have about 75-100 hours by the time you start college.

Just to clarify:

1. Yes, scheduling can be a bitch at ERAU, but if you stay on them hard enough, you'll get to fly when its convenient. Thats not to say that you won't be scheduled for a flight and then at the last second, your boys go out for a night of drinking and you're left behind.

2. What makes you think you can't do that at ERAU?

3. I transferred my flight hours. A log book is a log book, regardless if it was started at Mom N' Pops Skool O' Flyin, ERAU, UND, Purdue, or anywhere. I came into ERAU with my private and was given 5 credit hours for that certification.

[boeing 777-300]

Just to clarify:

1. Yes, scheduling can be a bitch at ERAU, but if you stay on them hard enough, you'll get to fly when its convenient. Thats not to say that you won't be scheduled for a flight and then at the last second, your boys go out for a night of drinking and you're left behind.

2. What makes you think you can't do that at ERAU?

3. I transferred my flight hours. A log book is a log book, regardless if it was started at Mom N' Pops Skool O' Flyin, ERAU, UND, Purdue, or anywhere. I came into ERAU with my private and was given 5 credit hours for that certification.

Hahah you cant comment on #4!!

[TFaudree_ERAU]

Originally Posted by boeing 777-300

Hahah you cant comment on #4!!

Did you expect me to? Of course you can get em cheaper everywhere else. But I'd rather fork out a little extra money to fly the nicest equipment available. Might as well learn to use it now instead of it being a overwhelming shock to you when you go for Indoc on some regional jet.

[Stone Cold]

Originally Posted by TFaudree_ERAU

But I'd rather fork out a little extra money to fly the nicest equipment available.

Kind of an understatement there, isn't it? I think they charge a ton more than you'd pay elsewhere.

Originally Posted by TFaudree_ERAU

Might as well learn to use it now instead of it being a overwhelming shock to you when you go for Indoc on some regional jet.

Ahhhh...never mind...

[TFaudree_ERAU]

Originally Posted by txpilot

I think they charge a ton more than you'd pay elsewhere.

Oh, we're THINKING instead of KNOWING. Good strategy to win an argument.

Originally Posted by txpilot

Ahhhh...never mind...

What I meant was not so much the use of a Garmin 530, but understanding the concepts of GPS and having the "digital" experience. Take the G1000 systems. Can you argue that it wouldn't be better to have used and be comfortable with the data display format on the PFD. Its just about the same as what you see on any glass panel jet.

[SteveC]

Originally Posted by TFaudree_ERAU

Might as well learn to use it now instead of it being a overwhelming shock to you when you go for Indoc on some regional jet.

"Overwhelming shock"?
Kinda curious where you got that idea from?

[boeing 777-300]

fly the nicest equipment available

..

At the Daytona Beach campus, students have access to 101 aircraft, including Cessna 150s, Cessna 172RGs, Cessna 172 R/Ss, Mooney M20Js, Piper PA28 Cadets, Piper PA28R Arrows, and Piper PA44 Seminoles.

Thats from erau.edu. Last time i checked the average FBO has 150's, 172 and an occasional single engine piper. Then for mutli-engine the average FBO has seminoles. Unless ERAU's have glass panels then i dont know what makes them better.

im not trying to criticize all your words but im trying to make a point.

[boeing 777-300]

Quote:
Originally Posted by txpilot
I think they charge a ton more than you'd pay elsewhere.


Oh, we're THINKING instead of KNOWING. Good strategy to win an argument.

ok ill back up txpilot. i know they charge a ton more. One year at ERAU is about $23,000 lets tack on books, food, and a room. $25,000. Their site says $10,000 in flight costs. $35,000. Times four years. $140,000.

One can go to UCLA and fly at an FBO for half that.