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Old June 13th, 2008, 21:01   #1
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Default 20 training tips to get certified

This was posted in the members area of the NATCA message board... I think it's well written and good advice for anyone that is training.

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I hope this helps our new Brothers and Sisters to get through training. Remember no matter how many years you have in this Agency training sucks.

1. Stay positive

2. Be prepared, (know your MVA's, Handoffs inter facility and intra facility,SOP, Phraseology, Aircraft types etc.

3. Be on time, to work and back from breaks, ( The FAA is just looking for any reason to fire you in a probationary status)

4. Find the Alpha Dog, Find out who the best controllers are, and watch how they work the sector.

5. Never Argue with your instructor on position, It's his or her ticket. Any questions/disagreements take care of them at the debrief.

6. Be a sponge, watch and learn how CPC's work and take the best techniques from all of them.

7. Make copies of all your training reports. Read them, don't make the same errors over and over.
8. Ask questions, if you don't know something learn where to find the information.

9. Be confident, NOT COCKY OR ARROGANT!!!!! If you sound confident you will repeat less transmissions and decrease your workload.

10. Work like is is busy all the time, establish good work habits that will stay with you the rest of your career.

11. Learn how to listen, actively listening is a learned skill, it takes work, and will save your a** on readback hearback.

12. Increase your keyboard skills, practice talking and typing.

13. Study on your breaks, there is nothing worse than a developmental on the fence that, is always watching tv, or reading a book, or playing cards. Perception is everything.

14. Join the Union, membership has its privileges. It's much easier to make it through training when you have the support of your Brothers and Sisters.

15. Be ready to train every shift, ask to train, the squeaky wheel gets the grease.

16. Know how many hours you have to get certified on each position, and keep track to the minute of your training times.

17.Don't be afraid to talk to your Union representative, if you are having problems in training. Don't wait until you have 2 hours left to train be proactive.

18. Socialize with your peers, be a part of the team, go to facility events etc.

19. Take pride in your career, never discount the importance of your profession and that of your Brothers and Sisters.

20. Realize that not everyone can do this job, When you make it, remember being part of this profession is something to be very proud of.


I hope these tips help you.
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Old June 13th, 2008, 21:06   #2
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Thanks!
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Old June 13th, 2008, 21:41   #3
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Default Re: 20 training tips to get certified

Thank you. I copied them to a Word file on my computer and will definitely refer back to this!
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Old June 13th, 2008, 21:57   #4
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Thanks! I made a copy for future reference as well.
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Old June 13th, 2008, 22:48   #5
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Thanks!
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Old June 13th, 2008, 23:58   #6
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Thanks this is great!
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Old June 14th, 2008, 00:29   #7
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Very good and practical information, thanks for sharing.
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Old June 14th, 2008, 02:51   #8
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Can we get a sticky? Thanks!
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Old June 14th, 2008, 06:07   #9
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Boy this sounds familiar. Good information for nubes to adhere to.
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Old June 14th, 2008, 12:35   #10
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Thanks for the post Fox Xray.

Great advice for all the new kids on the block!
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Old June 14th, 2008, 14:19   #11
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This is a great post. I Hope to have a need for this advice someday.
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Old June 14th, 2008, 21:03   #12
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Seconded, Mr. Bucket...
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Old June 15th, 2008, 11:19   #13
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Thank you, amazing post!
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Old June 15th, 2008, 23:11   #14
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Default Re: 20 training tips to get certified

awesome advice.
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What he says is a universal fact. Thank God I am well versed in this. For you future tower controllers, keep your head on a swivel.
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Old June 26th, 2008, 04:34   #16
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Wow. Hopefully this will come in handy. Thanks so much for taking the time to post it.
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Old July 6th, 2008, 19:43   #17
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Default Re: 20 training tips to get certified

This is good advice, but I wouldn't say these steps are different than coming into any other seniority influenced career, or prison.
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Old July 7th, 2008, 03:34   #18
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This is good advice, but I wouldn't say these steps are different than coming into any other seniority influenced career, or prison.
Sounds just like the railroad...

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Exactly what I hear other CPC's say. Thank you for all of your advice Fox Xray.
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Old July 7th, 2008, 23:25   #20
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I respect people because they are people, not just because they are old, lol.
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Old October 30th, 2008, 21:00   #21
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Is there anyplace that us folks who haven't made it to OKC yet can go to learn the different aircraft types and the phraseology?
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All of the praseology is in the 7110.65
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Old November 2nd, 2008, 01:23   #23
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Is there anyplace that us folks who haven't made it to OKC yet can go to learn the different aircraft types and the phraseology?
www.airliners.net = a very good site with pictures of any kind of aircraft you can think of.
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14. Join the Union, membership has its privileges. It's much easier to make it through training when you have the support of your Brothers and Sisters.
100% agree with all except for this one. I just don't agree that membership has anything to do with checking out. If it does, then that in itself is a grievance.

i'm a 4 year NATCA member in the most recent "worst of times" so save the flames

and YES...JOIN THE UNION. we need solidarity. sorry to sound contradictory.
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good reading
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