Foreign Student Questions

ERJ · January 18th, 2004, 12:38

Hi,
I just have a couple of questions regarding Foreign students @ USA/Delta connection Academy.

Is there a minimum age to apply?
Do I only need a high school diploma?
and finnaly,
Can i work in the US after my trainning as a pilot (instructor,regional)?

Thank you very much

DakotaBlue · January 18th, 2004, 23:50

Yes you need a diploma, not sure about the age, and depending on which program you go through FAA/JAA you can work in the us

yankee_one · January 19th, 2004, 07:17

Usually, if you are on a J-1 Visa, you can work for up to one year as a Flight Instuctor. This is assuming you have a year left on the two year Visa.

The International Admissions Office can be reached at: 0080052210480
This is toll free from most of Europe. Ask for Chris McShea, he will be happy to help you.

DE727UPS · January 19th, 2004, 12:54

Don't be mislead by the last two posts. I'm no expert, but I seriously doubt that you could have a career as a pilot (regional or otherwise) in the USA just because you get your training at DCA. I believe that is what you are asking? While you might be able to live and work in the USA for a short period of time, no regional is going to hire you unless you have the right to live and work in the USA on a permanent basis. (Well, Gulfstream might hire you for 250 hours)

Unlike DCA's misleading ads about being the only flight school servicing the Delta regionals with pilots...I haven't seen them say they can sell green cards...YET.

flyboy04 · January 19th, 2004, 13:37

I know for a fact you can work as a flight instructor, because my instructor was from France, and wasnt a US citizen.

montanapilot · January 19th, 2004, 13:39

plus dont forget about the 4-year degree that you need to be hired at a major.

EatSleepFly · January 19th, 2004, 13:45

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I know for a fact you can work as a flight instructor, because my instructor was from France, and wasnt a US citizen.

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Yeah, but after his Visa is up, he's probably going back to France unless he somehow obtained a Green Card.

yankee_one · January 19th, 2004, 14:14

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Don't be mislead by the last two posts.

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Usually, if you are on a J-1 Visa, you can work for up to one year as a Flight Instuctor. This is assuming you have a year left on the two year Visa.

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How was I being misleading??

DE727UPS · January 19th, 2004, 16:02

After rereading the first three posts in order, I don't think you are being misleading. Your post is very specific. However, I think the first poster wants to know if he were to attend DCA, could he have a career as a pilot in the US? The answer is no, unless he could somehow get a green card. Your answer to him is correct but leaves out the answer to what I think his question really is.

What do you think a DCA recruiter will say to this guy? What if he doesn't know the different between a visa and a pitot tube? I'm not saying I have all the answers but I don't want him to be mislead into thinking if you just go to DCA, you can be a pilot in the USA? That's what I was worried about when I read the first three posts....

ERJ · January 19th, 2004, 22:58

Thank you very much for the quick responses.
I just wanted to know if I could work in the US after my trainning with DCA..
I guess the answer is no without the green card,
thanks!
btw, I'm in canada.

mcooper · January 19th, 2004, 23:48

Hey. Just find an american bride/groom...whatever the case may be lol

Autoshaq · February 4th, 2004, 17:19

Does this include students from DCA? So, if I go through the "jet direct" program and end up in a CRJ, I still need a degree to be hired by Delta and to fly lets say an 737?

Autoshaq · February 4th, 2004, 17:19

The minimum age is 18, if you didn't get that answer already

montanapilot · February 4th, 2004, 21:19

[ QUOTE ]
Does this include students from DCA? So, if I go through the "jet direct" program and end up in a CRJ, I still need a degree to be hired by Delta and to fly lets say an 737

[/ QUOTE ]

yep you still need a degree.

Delta (mainline) doesnt give a rats a** about DCA or any other flight school they just care about your ratings and experience.

Autoshaq · February 4th, 2004, 23:15

[ QUOTE ]

yep you still need a degree.

Delta (mainline) doesnt give a rats a** about DCA or any other flight school they just care about your ratings and experience.

[/ QUOTE ]

Ok, thanks. Do I hvae to have a degree within aviation, or could it pretty much be anything? Like computer science? =)

I'm trying to find out where I'm at, and what I need (besides a bunch of money!!)

montanapilot · February 4th, 2004, 23:49

[ QUOTE ]
Ok, thanks. Do I hvae to have a degree within aviation, or could it pretty much be anything? Like computer science? =)

I'm trying to find out where I'm at, and what I need

[/ QUOTE ]

the degree can be in anything. as long as it is a Bachelors. the airlines are mainly looking at the degree as a way of determining if a person is driven to accomplish something. It is also wise to get a degree in something else you are interested in (I'm working on Hotel Management) just in case the airline gig doesnt pan out (furloughs, medical stuff, damn terrorists).

I take it from your posts that you are new to exploring aviation as a career. Well you've come to the right place. In searching for the right path to use to acheive your goal just make sure to explore all your options, there are many many different methods people use to acheive their goal. If you have any questions feel free to PM me.

Yes indeed flying is not a poor mans game either. The prices at places you train varies greatly from $24,000 at one place to $100,000 at another.

Autoshaq · February 5th, 2004, 00:40

Again, thanks alot! I will certainly PM you.
I've been researching my opportuneties within aviation for some time now, and the more i read, the more comfused I seem to get.
DCA was recommended to me because of the great chances(?) of getting inside an CRJ and log jet hours as soon as possible after the education.

I have so many questions, so I'll come back to you, if that's allright?

DE727UPS · February 5th, 2004, 01:55

If your from Norway, how to you plan to solve the little problem of not being able to work/live in the US? Don't put the cart before the horse. That's an American saying that means don't think too far ahead. Before you think about working for Delta you gotta figure out how to be a resident of the USA. Not trying to be mean or anything....

Oslo rocks. I used to have layovers there and we stayed at the Grand Hotel.

Autoshaq · February 6th, 2004, 00:16

[ QUOTE ]
If your from Norway, how to you plan to solve the little problem of not being able to work/live in the US? Don't put the cart before the horse. That's an American saying that means don't think too far ahead. Before you think about working for Delta you gotta figure out how to be a resident of the USA. Not trying to be mean or anything....

Oslo rocks. I used to have layovers there and we stayed at the Grand Hotel.

[/ QUOTE ]

Trust me, I DO worry about getting my "green", but my mother living in St.Louis with a permanent residentcy among with my babysister, what should help me out a little.
But at thyis point , the waitinglist for people in my "class (based on family reunion)" is about 4 years. So, I'm trying to figure out how to speed this process up.
It's typically me to plan far ahead. I have to be sure how things are going to be like, because of a bigass bankloan I'll have to sign up for etc.
Yeah, Oslo is great. Like it there, but I'll go for Florida anytime!
Thanks for the intrest anyway. I do need some good advice along my path of becoming an airline pilot.

DE727UPS · February 6th, 2004, 02:27

Sounds like you know more about it than I do. Had no idea one could get a green card after only waiting a certain period. You could come over and get married...that would speed up the process....

My friend who is furloughed from Delta married a gal from Trondhiem (spelling). The Norweigens made fun of him for wearing long underwear...which cracked me up.

Kristie · February 6th, 2004, 13:15

[ QUOTE ]
Sounds like you know more about it than I do. Had no idea one could get a green card after only waiting a certain period. You could come over and get married...that would speed up the process....

My friend who is furloughed from Delta married a gal from Trondhiem (spelling). The Norweigens made fun of him for wearing long underwear...which cracked me up.

[/ QUOTE ] but he liked her first before they got married right? Cuz I have a girlfriend whose Thai married to an american guy (they fell in love) and when asked by the "whoever it is that does the interview for a greencard thing - can't remember the name - brain fart!!" she said they had to know absolutely everything about the other person and if they didn't know eachother THAT well, she would have been sent back to thailand THAT day.... just coming over and getting married to an american is NOT a good way to go about it nor is it an easy process (from what i hear)... it's also extremely costly...

raysalmon · February 7th, 2004, 22:43

The whoever it is that does the Green Card thing used to be called the Immigration and Naturalization Service. It is notw called the Bureau of Citizenship and Immigration Services.

As for having to know absolutely everything about your spouse, that is a figment of imagination from the Green Card movie. Yes you do have to show evidence to prove you married in good faith, and not to avoid immigration laws, but by no means do you have to know everything. For my wife and I we just showed the immigration inspector our wedding pictures, joint car titles, insurance and jointly-signed apartment lease. We answered a couple of questions like "where/when did you meet?" and "how long have you known each other?" but that's it. The actual interview took less than 15 minutes.

It is a costly process. The INS fees alone added up to around $1000. Add on fingerprinting, getting pictures taken, travelling to your local INS office etc etc etc and it becomes quite an ordeal.

I didn't find the process very hard. So long as you're careful to fill out the forms correctly, it is not that bad. It takes a long time to be processed (before 9/11 it took me around 6 months, now it's longer and in immigrant-heavy communities, it can take as long as 2 years), but that's more about the INS being backed up than anything else.

Now, if you come over in a category which does not have unlimited visa numbers or in an employment category which requires Dept. of Labor Certification, then the waiting time just to travel to the US and the process becomes exponentially more difficult, hence the need to ensure "good faith marriages" since it is considerably easier that way.

Incidentally, if you do get a Green Card on the basis of being married to a US Citizen, and your marriage is less than 2 years old at the time you get your green card, it is valid for only 2 years. You then have to file a petition with the INS to have that 2 year conditional period removed. If you're married to the same US citizen that petitioned you to become a green card holder, no sweat. If you get divorced before 2 years is up, then a LOT more explaining needs to take place.

Way too much information I know....but since the topic was brought up, thought I'd share 1st hand experience.

Ray

raysalmon · February 7th, 2004, 22:52

[ QUOTE ]
[ QUOTE ]
If your from Norway, how to you plan to solve the little problem of not being able to work/live in the US? Don't put the cart before the horse. That's an American saying that means don't think too far ahead. Before you think about working for Delta you gotta figure out how to be a resident of the USA. Not trying to be mean or anything....

Oslo rocks. I used to have layovers there and we stayed at the Grand Hotel.

[/ QUOTE ]

Trust me, I DO worry about getting my "green", but my mother living in St.Louis with a permanent residentcy among with my babysister, what should help me out a little.
But at thyis point , the waitinglist for people in my "class (based on family reunion)" is about 4 years. So, I'm trying to figure out how to speed this process up.
It's typically me to plan far ahead. I have to be sure how things are going to be like, because of a bigass bankloan I'll have to sign up for etc.
Yeah, Oslo is great. Like it there, but I'll go for Florida anytime!
Thanks for the intrest anyway. I do need some good advice along my path of becoming an airline pilot.

[/ QUOTE ]

I would personally come over here on a student visa, and do a 4 year US college degree. Soon after you get here (but not less than 3-6 months) get your mother to file a petition for you to get a visa number. By the time you finish college, your visa number should have come up, at which time you can file to adjust status to a permanent resident.

Don't let your mom file a petition for a visa number too quickly or else they could theoreitcally kick you out for misrepresenting your intentions to get your student visa, but do it after about 3-6 months of being here. That way you can "Serve your time" doing something worthwhile and also be in the US.

By the way, I can't remember the exact age limit, but if you're under a certain age (18 or 21 I think) then you can get an immediate visa number and file for permanent resident straight away.

Ray

Autoshaq · February 8th, 2004, 06:59

[ QUOTE ]
Sounds like you know more about it than I do. Had no idea one could get a green card after only waiting a certain period. You could come over and get married...that would speed up the process....

My friend who is furloughed from Delta married a gal from Trondhiem (spelling). The Norweigens made fun of him for wearing long underwear...which cracked me up.

[/ QUOTE ]

LoL
Well, it gets pretty cold up here. You got the word Trondheim right! Well done, buddy.
I have a chance of getting my green' just by waiting, because I've got family living in the US.

Falcon262 · February 9th, 2004, 20:17

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[ QUOTE ]
Ok, thanks. Do I hvae to have a degree within aviation, or could it pretty much be anything? Like computer science? =)

I'm trying to find out where I'm at, and what I need

[/ QUOTE ]

the degree can be in anything. as long as it is a Bachelors. the airlines are mainly looking at the degree as a way of determining if a person is driven to accomplish something. It is also wise to get a degree in something else you are interested in (I'm working on Hotel Management) just in case the airline gig doesnt pan out (furloughs, medical stuff, damn terrorists).

[/ QUOTE ]

I know its important to get a degree. You say the airlines look at the degree as a way to see if a person is driven to accomplish something. But isn't spending the time and money to get all your ratings a way to show that? I just don't get it.

January 18th, 2004, 12:38	#1
ERJ Newbie Join Date: Jan 2004 Posts: 2	Foreign Student Questions Hi, I just have a couple of questions regarding Foreign students @ USA/Delta connection Academy. Is there a minimum age to apply? Do I only need a high school diploma? and finnaly, Can i work in the US after my trainning as a pilot (instructor,regional)? Thank you very much <font color="black"> </font>

January 18th, 2004, 23:50	#2
DakotaBlue Junior Member Join Date: Jan 2004 Location: Atlanta Posts: 72	Re: Foreign Student Questions Yes you need a diploma, not sure about the age, and depending on which program you go through FAA/JAA you can work in the us

January 19th, 2004, 07:17	#3
yankee_one Junior Member Join Date: Aug 2002 Location: Deltona, Florida Posts: 286	Re: Foreign Student Questions Usually, if you are on a J-1 Visa, you can work for up to one year as a Flight Instuctor. This is assuming you have a year left on the two year Visa. The International Admissions Office can be reached at: 0080052210480 This is toll free from most of Europe. Ask for Chris McShea, he will be happy to help you.

January 19th, 2004, 12:54	#4
DE727UPS Old Skool Join Date: Nov 2000 Location: Spokane, WA Posts: 6,578	Re: Foreign Student Questions Don't be mislead by the last two posts. I'm no expert, but I seriously doubt that you could have a career as a pilot (regional or otherwise) in the USA just because you get your training at DCA. I believe that is what you are asking? While you might be able to live and work in the USA for a short period of time, no regional is going to hire you unless you have the right to live and work in the USA on a permanent basis. (Well, Gulfstream might hire you for 250 hours) Unlike DCA's misleading ads about being the only flight school servicing the Delta regionals with pilots...I haven't seen them say they can sell green cards...YET.

January 19th, 2004, 13:37	#5
flyboy04 Junior Member Join Date: May 2003 Posts: 290	Re: Foreign Student Questions I know for a fact you can work as a flight instructor, because my instructor was from France, and wasnt a US citizen.

January 19th, 2004, 13:39	#6
montanapilot Old Skool Join Date: May 2003 Location: Portland, Orygun Posts: 1,643	Re: Foreign Student Questions plus dont forget about the 4-year degree that you need to be hired at a major.

January 19th, 2004, 13:45	#7
EatSleepFly Old Skool Join Date: Dec 2002 Location: ?? Posts: 4,600	Re: Foreign Student Questions [ QUOTE ] I know for a fact you can work as a flight instructor, because my instructor was from France, and wasnt a US citizen. [/ QUOTE ] Yeah, but after his Visa is up, he's probably going back to France unless he somehow obtained a Green Card.

January 19th, 2004, 14:14	#8
yankee_one Junior Member Join Date: Aug 2002 Location: Deltona, Florida Posts: 286	Re: Foreign Student Questions [ QUOTE ] Don't be mislead by the last two posts. [/ QUOTE ] [ QUOTE ] Usually, if you are on a J-1 Visa, you can work for up to one year as a Flight Instuctor. This is assuming you have a year left on the two year Visa. [/ QUOTE ] How was I being misleading??

January 19th, 2004, 16:02	#9
DE727UPS Old Skool Join Date: Nov 2000 Location: Spokane, WA Posts: 6,578	Re: Foreign Student Questions After rereading the first three posts in order, I don't think you are being misleading. Your post is very specific. However, I think the first poster wants to know if he were to attend DCA, could he have a career as a pilot in the US? The answer is no, unless he could somehow get a green card. Your answer to him is correct but leaves out the answer to what I think his question really is. What do you think a DCA recruiter will say to this guy? What if he doesn't know the different between a visa and a pitot tube? I'm not saying I have all the answers but I don't want him to be mislead into thinking if you just go to DCA, you can be a pilot in the USA? That's what I was worried about when I read the first three posts....

January 19th, 2004, 22:58	#10
ERJ Newbie Join Date: Jan 2004 Posts: 2	Re: Foreign Student Questions Thank you very much for the quick responses. I just wanted to know if I could work in the US after my trainning with DCA.. I guess the answer is no without the green card, thanks! btw, I'm in canada.

January 19th, 2004, 23:48	#11
mcooper Junior Member Join Date: Oct 2003 Posts: 42	Re: Foreign Student Questions Hey. Just find an american bride/groom...whatever the case may be lol

February 4th, 2004, 17:19	#12
Autoshaq Newbie Join Date: Jan 2004 Location: Norway Posts: 9	Re: Foreign Student Questions Does this include students from DCA? So, if I go through the "jet direct" program and end up in a CRJ, I still need a degree to be hired by Delta and to fly lets say an 737?

February 4th, 2004, 17:19	#13
Autoshaq Newbie Join Date: Jan 2004 Location: Norway Posts: 9	Re: Foreign Student Questions The minimum age is 18, if you didn't get that answer already

February 4th, 2004, 21:19	#14
montanapilot Old Skool Join Date: May 2003 Location: Portland, Orygun Posts: 1,643	Re: Foreign Student Questions [ QUOTE ] Does this include students from DCA? So, if I go through the "jet direct" program and end up in a CRJ, I still need a degree to be hired by Delta and to fly lets say an 737 [/ QUOTE ] yep you still need a degree. Delta (mainline) doesnt give a rats a** about DCA or any other flight school they just care about your ratings and experience.

February 4th, 2004, 23:15	#15
Autoshaq Newbie Join Date: Jan 2004 Location: Norway Posts: 9	Re: Foreign Student Questions [ QUOTE ] yep you still need a degree. Delta (mainline) doesnt give a rats a** about DCA or any other flight school they just care about your ratings and experience. [/ QUOTE ] Ok, thanks. Do I hvae to have a degree within aviation, or could it pretty much be anything? Like computer science? =) I'm trying to find out where I'm at, and what I need (besides a bunch of money!!)

February 4th, 2004, 23:49	#16
montanapilot Old Skool Join Date: May 2003 Location: Portland, Orygun Posts: 1,643	Re: Foreign Student Questions [ QUOTE ] Ok, thanks. Do I hvae to have a degree within aviation, or could it pretty much be anything? Like computer science? =) I'm trying to find out where I'm at, and what I need [/ QUOTE ] the degree can be in anything. as long as it is a Bachelors. the airlines are mainly looking at the degree as a way of determining if a person is driven to accomplish something. It is also wise to get a degree in something else you are interested in (I'm working on Hotel Management) just in case the airline gig doesnt pan out (furloughs, medical stuff, damn terrorists). I take it from your posts that you are new to exploring aviation as a career. Well you've come to the right place. In searching for the right path to use to acheive your goal just make sure to explore all your options, there are many many different methods people use to acheive their goal. If you have any questions feel free to PM me. Yes indeed flying is not a poor mans game either. The prices at places you train varies greatly from $24,000 at one place to $100,000 at another.

February 5th, 2004, 00:40	#17
Autoshaq Newbie Join Date: Jan 2004 Location: Norway Posts: 9	Re: Foreign Student Questions Again, thanks alot! I will certainly PM you. I've been researching my opportuneties within aviation for some time now, and the more i read, the more comfused I seem to get. DCA was recommended to me because of the great chances(?) of getting inside an CRJ and log jet hours as soon as possible after the education. I have so many questions, so I'll come back to you, if that's allright?

February 5th, 2004, 01:55	#18
DE727UPS Old Skool Join Date: Nov 2000 Location: Spokane, WA Posts: 6,578	Re: Foreign Student Questions If your from Norway, how to you plan to solve the little problem of not being able to work/live in the US? Don't put the cart before the horse. That's an American saying that means don't think too far ahead. Before you think about working for Delta you gotta figure out how to be a resident of the USA. Not trying to be mean or anything.... Oslo rocks. I used to have layovers there and we stayed at the Grand Hotel.

February 6th, 2004, 00:16	#19
Autoshaq Newbie Join Date: Jan 2004 Location: Norway Posts: 9	Re: Foreign Student Questions [ QUOTE ] If your from Norway, how to you plan to solve the little problem of not being able to work/live in the US? Don't put the cart before the horse. That's an American saying that means don't think too far ahead. Before you think about working for Delta you gotta figure out how to be a resident of the USA. Not trying to be mean or anything.... Oslo rocks. I used to have layovers there and we stayed at the Grand Hotel. [/ QUOTE ] Trust me, I DO worry about getting my "green", but my mother living in St.Louis with a permanent residentcy among with my babysister, what should help me out a little. But at thyis point , the waitinglist for people in my "class (based on family reunion)" is about 4 years. So, I'm trying to figure out how to speed this process up. It's typically me to plan far ahead. I have to be sure how things are going to be like, because of a bigass bankloan I'll have to sign up for etc. Yeah, Oslo is great. Like it there, but I'll go for Florida anytime! Thanks for the intrest anyway. I do need some good advice along my path of becoming an airline pilot.

February 6th, 2004, 02:27	#20
DE727UPS Old Skool Join Date: Nov 2000 Location: Spokane, WA Posts: 6,578	Re: Foreign Student Questions Sounds like you know more about it than I do. Had no idea one could get a green card after only waiting a certain period. You could come over and get married...that would speed up the process.... My friend who is furloughed from Delta married a gal from Trondhiem (spelling). The Norweigens made fun of him for wearing long underwear...which cracked me up.

February 6th, 2004, 13:15	#21
Kristie Big Chief's Woman Join Date: Feb 2001 Location: Scottsdale, Arizona Posts: 19,292 Blog Entries: 3	Re: Foreign Student Questions [ QUOTE ] Sounds like you know more about it than I do. Had no idea one could get a green card after only waiting a certain period. You could come over and get married...that would speed up the process.... My friend who is furloughed from Delta married a gal from Trondhiem (spelling). The Norweigens made fun of him for wearing long underwear...which cracked me up. [/ QUOTE ] but he liked her first before they got married right? Cuz I have a girlfriend whose Thai married to an american guy (they fell in love) and when asked by the "whoever it is that does the interview for a greencard thing - can't remember the name - brain fart!!" she said they had to know absolutely everything about the other person and if they didn't know eachother THAT well, she would have been sent back to thailand THAT day.... just coming over and getting married to an american is NOT a good way to go about it nor is it an easy process (from what i hear)... it's also extremely costly...

February 7th, 2004, 22:43	#22
raysalmon Junior Member Join Date: Sep 2003 Location: CO Posts: 260	Re: Foreign Student Questions The whoever it is that does the Green Card thing used to be called the Immigration and Naturalization Service. It is notw called the Bureau of Citizenship and Immigration Services. As for having to know absolutely everything about your spouse, that is a figment of imagination from the Green Card movie. Yes you do have to show evidence to prove you married in good faith, and not to avoid immigration laws, but by no means do you have to know everything. For my wife and I we just showed the immigration inspector our wedding pictures, joint car titles, insurance and jointly-signed apartment lease. We answered a couple of questions like "where/when did you meet?" and "how long have you known each other?" but that's it. The actual interview took less than 15 minutes. It is a costly process. The INS fees alone added up to around $1000. Add on fingerprinting, getting pictures taken, travelling to your local INS office etc etc etc and it becomes quite an ordeal. I didn't find the process very hard. So long as you're careful to fill out the forms correctly, it is not that bad. It takes a long time to be processed (before 9/11 it took me around 6 months, now it's longer and in immigrant-heavy communities, it can take as long as 2 years), but that's more about the INS being backed up than anything else. Now, if you come over in a category which does not have unlimited visa numbers or in an employment category which requires Dept. of Labor Certification, then the waiting time just to travel to the US and the process becomes exponentially more difficult, hence the need to ensure "good faith marriages" since it is considerably easier that way. Incidentally, if you do get a Green Card on the basis of being married to a US Citizen, and your marriage is less than 2 years old at the time you get your green card, it is valid for only 2 years. You then have to file a petition with the INS to have that 2 year conditional period removed. If you're married to the same US citizen that petitioned you to become a green card holder, no sweat. If you get divorced before 2 years is up, then a LOT more explaining needs to take place. Way too much information I know....but since the topic was brought up, thought I'd share 1st hand experience. Ray

February 7th, 2004, 22:52	#23
raysalmon Junior Member Join Date: Sep 2003 Location: CO Posts: 260	Re: Foreign Student Questions [ QUOTE ] [ QUOTE ] If your from Norway, how to you plan to solve the little problem of not being able to work/live in the US? Don't put the cart before the horse. That's an American saying that means don't think too far ahead. Before you think about working for Delta you gotta figure out how to be a resident of the USA. Not trying to be mean or anything.... Oslo rocks. I used to have layovers there and we stayed at the Grand Hotel. [/ QUOTE ] Trust me, I DO worry about getting my "green", but my mother living in St.Louis with a permanent residentcy among with my babysister, what should help me out a little. But at thyis point , the waitinglist for people in my "class (based on family reunion)" is about 4 years. So, I'm trying to figure out how to speed this process up. It's typically me to plan far ahead. I have to be sure how things are going to be like, because of a bigass bankloan I'll have to sign up for etc. Yeah, Oslo is great. Like it there, but I'll go for Florida anytime! Thanks for the intrest anyway. I do need some good advice along my path of becoming an airline pilot. [/ QUOTE ] I would personally come over here on a student visa, and do a 4 year US college degree. Soon after you get here (but not less than 3-6 months) get your mother to file a petition for you to get a visa number. By the time you finish college, your visa number should have come up, at which time you can file to adjust status to a permanent resident. Don't let your mom file a petition for a visa number too quickly or else they could theoreitcally kick you out for misrepresenting your intentions to get your student visa, but do it after about 3-6 months of being here. That way you can "Serve your time" doing something worthwhile and also be in the US. By the way, I can't remember the exact age limit, but if you're under a certain age (18 or 21 I think) then you can get an immediate visa number and file for permanent resident straight away. Ray

February 8th, 2004, 06:59	#24
Autoshaq Newbie Join Date: Jan 2004 Location: Norway Posts: 9	Re: Foreign Student Questions [ QUOTE ] Sounds like you know more about it than I do. Had no idea one could get a green card after only waiting a certain period. You could come over and get married...that would speed up the process.... My friend who is furloughed from Delta married a gal from Trondhiem (spelling). The Norweigens made fun of him for wearing long underwear...which cracked me up. [/ QUOTE ] LoL Well, it gets pretty cold up here. You got the word Trondheim right! Well done, buddy. I have a chance of getting my green' just by waiting, because I've got family living in the US.

February 9th, 2004, 20:17	#25
Falcon262 Junior Member Join Date: Aug 2001 Location: Greensboro, NC Posts: 187	Re: Foreign Student Questions [ QUOTE ] [ QUOTE ] Ok, thanks. Do I hvae to have a degree within aviation, or could it pretty much be anything? Like computer science? =) I'm trying to find out where I'm at, and what I need [/ QUOTE ] the degree can be in anything. as long as it is a Bachelors. the airlines are mainly looking at the degree as a way of determining if a person is driven to accomplish something. It is also wise to get a degree in something else you are interested in (I'm working on Hotel Management) just in case the airline gig doesnt pan out (furloughs, medical stuff, damn terrorists). [/ QUOTE ] I know its important to get a degree. You say the airlines look at the degree as a way to see if a person is driven to accomplish something. But isn't spending the time and money to get all your ratings a way to show that? I just don't get it.

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