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July 13th, 2005, 11:32
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| Junior Member  Join Date: Jun 2005 Location: Mulletville
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|  DISCOVERY JOIN ME IN WISHING THE BEST OF LUCK AND GODSPEED TO THE CREW OF DISCOVERY AND ALL OF THOSE AT NASA!!! T - 4 hours and 21 minutes |
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July 13th, 2005, 11:39
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| Administrator  Join Date: Feb 2003 Location: Pinal Airpark
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| Re: DISCOVERY Here Here. IMO, it's high time our space program gets "back on the horse" after the unfortunate setback of Colombia. This is probably one of the best ways to honor the crew that perished. |
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July 13th, 2005, 11:46
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| Old Skool  Join Date: Apr 2005 Location: OH or is it MX??
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 | Re: DISCOVERY I agree, the only issue I have is that one of the crew said the other night that it the ship was damaged that they would go and remain on the space station and jetison the shuttle to burn up on reentry. I understand not return, but why not leave it at the station for future use or recovery??? |
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July 13th, 2005, 11:47
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| Re: DISCOVERY [ QUOTE ] Here Here. IMO, it's high time our space program gets "back on the horse" after the unfortunate setback of Colombia. This is probably one of the best ways to honor the crew that perished. [/ QUOTE ] Agree... I also hope that our government, congress, and NASA begin to remember one of the most natural human instincts...TO EXPLORE! So, let's get back to it! |
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July 13th, 2005, 11:48
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| Administrator Join Date: Feb 2003 Location: Pinal Airpark
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| Re: DISCOVERY Good question. Maybe lack of repair ability in space or at the space station. Question.....how would they get off the space station? In a Soyuz or similiar? Or is there some sort of space craft at the station at all times that could fit seven astronauts? |
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July 13th, 2005, 11:52
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| Old Skool Join Date: Apr 2005 Location: OH or is it MX??
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| Re: DISCOVERY Not sure on that one, they said wait for another shuttle to come and get them. |
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July 13th, 2005, 11:55
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| Re: DISCOVERY [ QUOTE ] Not sure on that one, they said wait for another shuttle to come and get them. [/ QUOTE ] Would you all agree that it is time to develop a new Re-usable space vehicle? |
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July 13th, 2005, 11:58
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| Old Skool Join Date: Apr 2005 Location: OH or is it MX??
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| Re: DISCOVERY I had heard of one right after the accident, but nothing really since. They already had designs and maybe wind tunnel models. |
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July 13th, 2005, 12:08
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| Re: DISCOVERY [ QUOTE ] Not sure on that one, they said wait for another shuttle to come and get them. [/ QUOTE ] That's what I was thinking. But I wonder: 1. If something were wrong with the shuttle and it were jettisoned into the atmosphere to burn up, wouldn't the rest of the fleet be grounded for another 3 years? 2. If they decided to launch a shuttle immediately, how long would it take to get one ready....ie- how long would the astronauts be stranded on the space station? |
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July 13th, 2005, 12:16
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| Shadow Administrator  Join Date: Jul 1998 Location: Between KFCM and KMSP
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 | Re: DISCOVERY [ QUOTE ] [ QUOTE ] Not sure on that one, they said wait for another shuttle to come and get them. [/ QUOTE ] That's what I was thinking. But I wonder: 1. If something were wrong with the shuttle and it were jettisoned into the atmosphere to burn up, wouldn't the rest of the fleet be grounded for another 3 years? [/ QUOTE ] Maybe not burn up, but maybe to have it auto-land via ground control? Would seem sort of a waste to me. In all the stuff I have read, I've never heard this scenario; in all I have read, it would be docked at the space station until a replacement arrives to make repairs. Then again, there is a lot of orbital mechanics at work, and it might be that the shuttle docked at the station for long periods of time might cause degradation of orbit or something, thus necessitating a jettison. [ QUOTE ] 2. If they decided to launch a shuttle immediately, how long would it take to get one ready....ie- how long would the astronauts be stranded on the space station? [/ QUOTE ] The stuff I read said 3-6 weeks. They were working on the X-38 Crew Return Vehicle, but I believe this was cancelled as part of budget cuts. Some good news, though, was that as the X-37 was cancelled by NASA, it was picked up by DARPA and might lend itself to a replacement vehicle. In fact, two weeks ago it was carried aloft by the White Knight in anticipation of drop and land tests. |
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July 13th, 2005, 12:24
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| Junior Member  Join Date: Jun 2005 Location: Houston, TX
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| Re: DISCOVERY If you read the Columbia Investigation Report (it's long and most of it not understandable to someone like me) it talks a lot about the scenario of abandoning a damaged shuttle in space. The report mentions several "low men on the totum pole" at NASA throwing scenarios back and forth when they suspected serious damage to Columbia....the report contains emails where they discussed ditching the shuttle....performing a gear up landing....etc. Check it out sometime...like I said most of the report is very scientific but part of it are pretty interesting. You can find it on NASA's website. |
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July 14th, 2005, 09:25
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| Junior Member Join Date: Jun 2005 Location: Mulletville
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| Re: DISCOVERY [ QUOTE ] aren't they on their last shuttle? [/ QUOTE ] HA!!!!!! That's hysterical.... I think they still have Atlantis, Endevour, and Discovery(hopefully)... |
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July 15th, 2005, 16:01
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| Junior Member Join Date: Jul 2001 Location: USA
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| Re: DISCOVERY If NASA can send a men to the moon and bring them back safely, then NASA should be able to design a car that uses alternate means of energy, such as the sun, water, corn oil, yeast, beer, cow pie, you name it. Gas as we know it is only going to go higher in $$$. It is time to stop the cash cow wast of money and put it to use in other scientific endevors. Yes, we have received many new products from the space program, but there comes a time when enough is enough. |
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July 15th, 2005, 18:45
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| Junior Member Join Date: Jun 2005 Location: Mulletville
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| Re: DISCOVERY [ QUOTE ] If NASA can send a men to the moon and bring them back safely, then NASA should be able to design a car that uses alternate means of energy, such as the sun, water, corn oil, yeast, beer, cow pie, you name it. Gas as we know it is only going to go higher in $$$. It is time to stop the cash cow wast of money and put it to use in other scientific endevors. Yes, we have received many new products from the space program, but there comes a time when enough is enough. [/ QUOTE ] You make a very good point, ERJ. What has NASA and JPL been doing for the past 40 years? I find it hard to believe that they have not come up with some other efficient, more powerful means of propulsion. If they have, then it is just more proof that our dependency on oil will not go away until the powers that be decide "enough is enough". When will they finally decide that sending a craft into space with 80% of it's weight being fuel is ridiculous? I don't know...but if they plan keep exploring the cosmos, then it is time for some progress, and inovation. Where are the thinkers and dreamers? Where are the Einsteins and Von Browns? |
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July 26th, 2005, 07:57
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| Junior Member Join Date: Jun 2005 Location: Mulletville
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| Re: DISCOVERY GOOD LUCK DICOVERY!!! |
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