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[DE727UPS]

"hey Don... The race is still on... truboprops don't count... we were talking about getting into a part 121 operator in a jet, right?"

Not sure I remember. If you think 121 RJ F/O time equals 135 PIC turbine, I'd strongly disagree. You could also use a W2 comparasion as a gage, if you'd like.

He could leave right now for the regional of his choice but is gonna stay long enough to get the 1000 PIC turbine done. I think it would be a backwards move to go to a regional after being at Amflight long enough to get the 1000 PIC turbine, but it could happen. If it did, you could be senior it him at Delta Connection airline. You went to ASA or Comair before he went backwards to Skywest. Really don't think it will play out like that, though. I think he'll find something out of Amflight that allows him to skip the regional process.

I'd say give it another year and we'll see where you two are. You'll be at near the bottom of a regional list and he'll have 1000 PIC turbine, but not be on that regional list. Then, we'll have to go another year, and see who gets to the left seat faster. In the end, it really depends more on each persons goals and could be a moot point. Luck and timing plays a bigger part than where you went to school. Maybe DCA should mention that at their website should they care to be honest.....

[DE727UPS]

"So Mr. UPS to close my rant, do not think that DCA is unholy because of marketing, because your company does the same thing."

In my view, we are comparing apples to oranges. First of all, I could care less about what UPS says in their marketing, if you feel the same way about DCA, just say so.

Secondly. If your package got delivered after the guaranteed time, you're not supposed to have to pay for it. I'm not really sure, though, cause I use Fedex for anything important.

And lastly, we are talking about the sacred issue of pilot careers, peoples lives, and flight training. Not whether a box got delivered or not. To think that it's okay to mislead a young wannabe pilot about how things are in this industry is a HECK of a lot more important than whether your box got there in time. Perhaps you now understand why this issue (PanAm, DCA, and CAPT misinformation) means so much to me.

"Marketing folks have to make turds shine, and in both our companies cases, they do a fantastic job"

I'm not really sure, but I think you just compared Delta Connection Academy to a turd....

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"Marketing folks have to make turds shine, and in both our companies cases, they do a fantastic job"

I'm not really sure, but I think you just compared Delta Connection Academy to a turd....



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Ah Snap!!!

[montanapilot]

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but I gotta tell you that this place is in reality insignificant

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So why are you wasting your time by frequenting it then?

[dcapilot]

Seems to me that the proof of the Academy's success is in the results.....




Delta Connection Academy’s Jet Transition Course
Graduates More Than 200 Pilots

The Academy’s Advanced Training continues its successful flight path

SANFORD, Fla., June 17, 2005 – Since its launch in October 2003, Delta Connection Academy’s Advanced Jet Transition “Bridge” Course has graduated 200 students. The Bridge Course is designed to help Academy student’s transition from twin-engine training aircraft to more complex regional jet platforms.

In less than two years, the Academy has conducted more than 20 ground school classes and over 2,700 hours of instruction in their Regional Jet Flight Training Device, which is used to prepare Academy students to transition from the Academy to a First Officer position with their partner airlines, including the Delta Connection Carriers and American Eagle. The Jet Training Device introduces Academy students to today's advanced flight decks and provides training on systems such as Electronic Flight Information, Engine Information and Crew Alert, auto-pilot and Flight Management. In addition, the Jet Training Device offers a substantial degree of reality by featuring a three-channel projected visual system, two-seat cockpit, dual flight controls, a full navigation system, and an actual Collins Flight Management System software program. These systems allow student pilots to approximate the experience of an airline pilot during a simulated revenue flight operated on a modern regional jet.

“The Bridge Course has proven itself to be a highly effective training tool for our students and pilots who have trained elsewhere but need this type of advanced training to get hired by a regional airline,” said John McGann, director of Flight Standards & Airline Transition Programs at Delta Connection Academy. “From a student perspective, the transition from the small twin engine aircraft to the large, sophisticated regional jet is seamless. We continue to receive a tremendous amount of positive feedback from the airline training departments where our graduates have been hired.”

“Our partnership with Delta Connection Academy has been very beneficial over the years,” said Mike Piper, director of Flight Operations at Comair, a Delta Connection Carrier. “We appreciate the development of programs like the Bridge Course, which help ensure that Academy graduates possess the skills and knowledge to be successful in their initial First Officer Airline Training course and throughout their careers.”

Delta Connection Academy has produced more FAA-certified pilots in the past six years than any other flight school in the United States. A wholly owned subsidiary of Delta Air Lines, the Academy has a fleet of more than 110 aircraft and has trained students from 89 different countries and placed pilots with 26 airlines. Graduates of the Academy are guaranteed a job interview with a Delta Connection carrier, American Eagle Airlines, or with other partner airlines. For more information about Delta Connection Academy, please visit their web site at DeltaConnectionAcademy.com, or call 1-800-U-CAN-FLY.

[rausda27]

BAH!

[Mustang17c]

Where did this "press release" come from?

[mnixon]

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"Marketing folks have to make turds shine, and in both our companies cases, they do a fantastic job"

I'm not really sure, but I think you just compared Delta Connection Academy to a turd....

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If in your little "Down with the man" world, that is what you take out of that statement so be it. It just shows your mental aptitude. But hey while we're at it, nice turd brown uniforms plumber.

[montanapilot]

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But hey while we're at it, nice turd brown uniforms plumber.


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such maturity. Did you consult my 6 year old niece for that one?

Thank God I dont have my life in your hands, jackass.

[montanapilot]

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Seems to me that the proof of the Academy's success is in the results.....

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looks like we got another one post wonder that management decided to drag up to "show all them ignorant fools".

Don't worry I'll be calling you out in a week or so to see if your still here or if your a troll like all the others.

[mnixon]

You guys love to only use the quotes that help, don't you. Only hear the things you want to? Did you consult your 6 year old niece on that way of thinking?

[dcapilot]

Go ahead and call me out in a week or so Montana....I'll be here...shaking my head and laughing at all the rediculous and uninformed posts you make.

Until then....
the one post wonder

[jaxpilot]

You DCA guys effort on hear is worthless. You will never have a good reputation on this site (hopefully anywhere for that matter). Unless DCA changes their marketing they will never have the chance to be a sponsor on JC. I enjoy your weak attempts to redeem your academy, but seriously, you know you aren't going to change most peoples minds that your schools management and marketing sucks, and when potential students see that, they make the right decision not to spend money there.

[Mustang17c]

Since you have not answered my question...

An internal press release does absolutely nothing for credibility. It is kind of like McDonalds putting out a press release saying how good their food is, and that you should go spend your money there.

If this comes from a legitimate non-biased news source, I apologize, and please send me the reference.

[DE727UPS]

"If this comes from a legitimate non-biased news source"

Nah...it's from their website. Hardly unbiased.

What cracks me up is WAY more guys get hired at the regionals from FBO's than from DCA during any timeframe you'd care to mention. FBO's train WAY more pilots than DCA during any time frame you'd care to mention, too.

[MikeD]

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But hey while we're at it, nice turd brown uniforms plumber.

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So, does that mean you'd turn down a flying job with UPS in order to avoid having to wear said uniform? Or how 'bout let them know the same thing in an interview. I'd give you $100 is you did.

Yeah.....I thought not.

[FO_SHIZZLE]

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"If this comes from a legitimate non-biased news source"

Nah...it's from their website. Hardly unbiased.

What cracks me up is WAY more guys get hired at the regionals from FBO's than from DCA during any timeframe you'd care to mention. FBO's train WAY more pilots than DCA during any time frame you'd care to mention, too.

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Duh?, considering that you are grouping all FBO's together. I mean are you serious? How many FBO's are there? Tons. Of course there going to place more. But you as a student are only going to go to one of them? How is that particular FBO's placement? You are right, most FBO's do a fine job of training and academies are not the only route, but man, thats a lame comparison.

[mnixon]

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But hey while we're at it, nice turd brown uniforms plumber.

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So, does that mean you'd turn down a flying job with UPS in order to avoid having to wear said uniform? Or how 'bout let them know the same thing in an interview. I'd give you $100 is you did.

Yeah.....I thought not.

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Actually I am the kind of a**hole that would just to get a laugh.

[FO_SHIZZLE]

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You DCA guys effort on hear is worthless.

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It's here, not hear.

But yeah, your right, my effort is worthless. I've only been a student at an FBO, CAA/DCA, and instructed at DCA. So I've got a pretty intimate understanding of the place as well as a perspective from being a student at an FBO. My input is worthless but the countless negative bashings of several people that have never been to the school or have an effing clue as to what goes on, yeah the effort on their part is worthwhile. You see marketing or hear some sob story from someone you don't know from Adam and you take it as the gospel. Everytime something pops up in this forum one of these guys is chomping at the bit to throw in some negative opinion on something they are clueless about. You're telling me that is worthwhile?

[MikeD]

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But hey while we're at it, nice turd brown uniforms plumber.

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So, does that mean you'd turn down a flying job with UPS in order to avoid having to wear said uniform? Or how 'bout let them know the same thing in an interview. I'd give you $100 is you did.

Yeah.....I thought not.

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Actually I am the kind of a**hole that would just to get a laugh.

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$100 bucks in the future for you, are you to do so.

[DE727UPS]

"sob story from someone you don't know from Adam and you take it as the gospel"

Everyone who posts at jetcareers is equal. Me, you, and the guy I "don't know from Adam" who has an opinion about DCA. What I find most interesting is the number of anti-DCA posts from guys here and at flightinfo. I don't know them from Adam, but I don't know you, either. So what's the difference?

[DE727UPS]

"You are right, most FBO's do a fine job of training and academies are not the only route, but man, thats a lame comparison"

I don't think it's a lame comparison when DCA comes across as trying to give the newbie the idea that they are the most superior school and the best way to become an airline pilot because of their claims. Actually, I gotta wonder if ATP doesn't create more new FAA certificates than DCA, which would make the DCA claim a lie, but I don't know how to prove it.

[FO_SHIZZLE]

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"sob story from someone you don't know from Adam and you take it as the gospel"

Everyone who posts at jetcareers is equal. Me, you, and the guy I "don't know from Adam" who has an opinion about DCA. What I find most interesting is the number of anti-DCA posts from guys here and at flightinfo. I don't know them from Adam, but I don't know you, either. So what's the difference?

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Exactly, so you should trust what I say about as much as you trust everyone else. The reason you hear more negative than positive is because that's society man. You don't hear people in the break room talking about how awesome their day was, you hear about how this sucks, or that sucks, or how they are getting the screw job. Those far out-weigh the positives I'm sure you hear. If this is incorrect then we all need to pack up an move to the northwest. I've seen where someone has posted this several times before. We all know this is true in everything so why not acknowledge it?

[dcapilot]

OH NO!!!!!!!!! DCA is never going to get the chance to be a sponsor on jc.com????? I hope the management at DCA is prepared for this bad news.....whose gonna tell 'em?


By the way Montana....that was post #3.

[DE727UPS]

"The reason you hear more negative than positive is because that's society man."

Then why is there so little negative about ATP?