Nbaa 2006

JDE · September 12th, 2006, 10:18

Anyone going this year?

JDE · September 12th, 2006, 10:23

And how come the "BAA" in the title won't stay in all caps like I had it??

RynoB · September 12th, 2006, 13:15

I wish I could go. Cessna is going to unveil the CJ4 at NBAA.

ready2fly · September 12th, 2006, 13:45

Where is it this year?

JDE · September 12th, 2006, 14:43

Quote:

Originally Posted by RynoB

I wish I could go. Cessna is going to unveil the CJ4 at NBAA.

Dang, I didn't even hear about the CJ4...I guess I'm a few weeks behind.

Quote:

Originally Posted by ready2fly

Where is it this year?

Orlando

n57flyguy · September 12th, 2006, 16:03

CJ4? wow, I need an update! should be cool, wish I could go.

ready2fly · September 12th, 2006, 16:26

Quote:

Originally Posted by JDE

Orlando

Again?!?!?!

Oh yeah....last year it was supposed to be in New Orleans, but N.O. wasn't there anymore, so Orlando stepped up.

JDE · September 12th, 2006, 16:43

I believe it's in Atlanta next year...definately not going to miss that one!

TFaudree_ERAU · September 13th, 2006, 15:58

I'll be there. Boss is going down for a business meeting and he wants me to "tag along".

TexasFlyer · September 14th, 2006, 00:52

I'll be there with one of my aviation division employes and the President and COO at a minimum. If anyone wants to met up down there for a drink or just to say hello, call me from there or about a week in advance. That would be pretty cool.

Joseph Alai
Aviation Director
Deacon Recruiting
San Antonio, TX
Office: 210-494-1000, 227 (call here any other time)
Cell: 210-859-1512 (call this the week of NBAA)

C650CPT · September 14th, 2006, 12:55

Sadly I will not be there this year. It's been a crazy couple of months at the job and being the only Capt. right now doesn't allow me much time off. Next year!!!

stuckingfk · September 14th, 2006, 21:47

Quote:

Originally Posted by RynoB

I wish I could go. Cessna is going to unveil the CJ4 at NBAA.

You guys get the specs on that CJ4 yet?

We were sent them a couple weeks ago and I think it'll be a nice plane. Expensive, but it will definitely sell.

Some notable additions:

Single point refueling
Two MFD's
Standard LCD's in cabin for DVD playback
Movement of anti-icing controls
FMS will be above throttles now
Up to 8 passengers in back
Wing Sweep
3400 lbs of thrust per side
EDM (emergency decent mode)
Two evaporators up front
Two alternators allows for running all avionics in case of dual generator failure
Electrically heated windows (yay, the bleed air sucked)
Less Windows (5 per side)
2 million more plus escalators and options = 8.5 million

Should be a great plane

n57flyguy · September 15th, 2006, 07:38

wow, where did you find that?

I tried looking but I couldnt find anything.

JDE · September 15th, 2006, 08:53

Quote:

Originally Posted by stuckingfk

Some notable additions:

Single point refueling
Two MFD's
Standard LCD's in cabin for DVD playback
Movement of anti-icing controls
FMS will be above throttles now
Up to 8 passengers in back
Wing Sweep
3400 lbs of thrust per side
EDM (emergency decent mode)
Two evaporators up front
Two alternators allows for running all avionics in case of dual generator failure
Electrically heated windows (yay, the bleed air sucked)
Less Windows (5 per side)
2 million more plus escalators and options = 8.5 million

Should be a great plane

Damn, kinda pricey, but it does sound like a nice plane. SPR will be nice too. Did it say anything about speeds, payload, etc??

stuckingfk · September 15th, 2006, 11:43

Quote:

Originally Posted by n57flyguy

wow, where did you find that?

I tried looking but I couldnt find anything.

I currently fly right seat in the CJ3 and Cessna sent us the specs on the CJ4 trying to get us to buy it.

Quote:

Originally Posted by JDE

Damn, kinda pricey, but it does sound like a nice plane. SPR will be nice too. Did it say anything about speeds, payload, etc??

Sorry, forgot that stuff.

TAS 430 (I think), I do remember .77 mach though
1000 lbs payload with full fuel
1830 NBAA range

And you're right, it is a bit pricey. I'd rather get a new Lear for that price.

eglplt · September 15th, 2006, 16:02

Rumor has it that there will be some "big" anouncement at this years NBAA from Cessna regarding the CJ4 and a certain large fractional operator. Stay tuned to see what happens..............

RynoB · September 15th, 2006, 16:20

I was wondering if they would sweep the wing. I figure they've squeezed all they can out of the current wing. Still, we are routinely seeing 420 TAS and .736 Mach. Not much of an increase. I agree that the bleed air windshield anti-ice sucks.

n57flyguy · September 15th, 2006, 17:04

Quote:

Originally Posted by stuckingfk

I currently fly right seat in the CJ3 and Cessna sent us the specs on the CJ4 trying to get us to buy it.

Oh I see. Yeah, I was reading your training blog. Wheres the link to it?

stuckingfk · September 15th, 2006, 19:02

Quote:

Originally Posted by eglplt

Rumor has it that there will be some "big" anouncement at this years NBAA from Cessna regarding the CJ4 and a certain large fractional operator. Stay tuned to see what happens..............

While I was reading the specs, I remember saying to the other pilot, "This plane is made for a fractional." Single point refueling, second MFD, and the movement of FMS so both 1 and 2 are right next to each other is what sold me on that idea. Plus it can carry a little bit more and goes faster.

Hopefully Cessna beats its own numbers like it did with the CJ3 and turn this plane into something great.

Quote:

Originally Posted by RynoB

I was wondering if they would sweep the wing. I figure they've squeezed all they can out of the current wing. Still, we are routinely seeing 420 TAS and .736 Mach. Not much of an increase. I agree that the bleed air windshield anti-ice sucks.

I think it is at 12.5 degrees. I was hoping they were going to get rid of the boots on the tail because they're flat out ugly. But they're still there

Quote:

Originally Posted by n57flyguy

Oh I see. Yeah, I was reading your training blog. Wheres the link to it?

Maybe I wasn't being clear. It hasn't been formally announced, so you probably won't see anything online. Maybe there is, but I haven't seen one. The specs I saw were the ones they personally sent our flight department trying to get us to prebuy before announcement.

frog_flyer · September 15th, 2006, 22:20

Quote:

Originally Posted by TexasFlyer

I'll be there with one of my aviation division employes and the President and COO at a minimum. If anyone wants to met up down there for a drink or just to say hello, call me from there or about a week in advance. That would be pretty cool.

Joseph Alai
Aviation Director
Deacon Recruiting
San Antonio, TX
Office: 210-494-1000, 227 (call here any other time)
Cell: 210-859-1512 (call this the week of NBAA)

drunk dial target has been acquired.

4:21 am texas time. be ready.

frog_flyer · September 16th, 2006, 04:38

Should I call him? Yea/Nay?

frog_flyer · September 16th, 2006, 05:00

last chance........ going to bed.. have to beat tech tomorrow ... hopefullly

n57flyguy · September 16th, 2006, 20:06

Quote:

Originally Posted by stuckingfk

Maybe I wasn't being clear. It hasn't been formally announced, so you probably won't see anything online. Maybe there is, but I haven't seen one. The specs I saw were the ones they personally sent our flight department trying to get us to prebuy before announcement.

No, I ment your blog of your CJ3 training.

aeroman2 · September 17th, 2006, 18:08

is this what your looking for? http://stuckingfk.flyblog.com/

n57flyguy · September 17th, 2006, 18:20

yeah, thanks. Its an interesting read.

September 12th, 2006, 10:18	#1
JDE Old Skool Join Date: Mar 2002 Location: Chattanooga, TN Posts: 1,566	Nbaa 2006 Anyone going this year? __________________ Jason

September 12th, 2006, 10:23	#2
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September 12th, 2006, 13:15	#3
RynoB Senior Member Join Date: Jan 2006 Location: Bixby, OK Posts: 636	Re: Nbaa 2006 I wish I could go. Cessna is going to unveil the CJ4 at NBAA. __________________ Ryan ATP (CE525, CE510, BE-300), SIC BE-400, CFI, CFII, MEI, IGI States I've landed in:

September 12th, 2006, 16:03	#6
n57flyguy Old Skool Join Date: Jan 2006 Location: Pennsylvania Posts: 3,770	Re: Nbaa 2006 CJ4? wow, I need an update! should be cool, wish I could go. __________________ -Paul It ain't always 65 and sunny

September 12th, 2006, 16:43	#8
JDE Old Skool Join Date: Mar 2002 Location: Chattanooga, TN Posts: 1,566	Re: Nbaa 2006 I believe it's in Atlanta next year...definately not going to miss that one! __________________ Jason

September 13th, 2006, 15:58	#9
TFaudree_ERAU Old Skool Join Date: May 2006 Location: Virginia is for Lovers, yacht chasing on the weekends Posts: 1,844	Re: Nbaa 2006 I'll be there. Boss is going down for a business meeting and he wants me to "tag along".

September 14th, 2006, 00:52	#10
TexasFlyer Senior Member Join Date: Mar 2005 Location: San Antonio, TX Posts: 377	Re: Nbaa 2006 I'll be there with one of my aviation division employes and the President and COO at a minimum. If anyone wants to met up down there for a drink or just to say hello, call me from there or about a week in advance. That would be pretty cool. Joseph Alai Aviation Director Deacon Recruiting San Antonio, TX Office: 210-494-1000, 227 (call here any other time) Cell: 210-859-1512 (call this the week of NBAA)

September 14th, 2006, 12:55	#11
C650CPT Senior Member Join Date: May 2003 Location: Home Sweet Home! Posts: 957	Re: Nbaa 2006 Sadly I will not be there this year. It's been a crazy couple of months at the job and being the only Capt. right now doesn't allow me much time off. Next year!!! __________________ Fly Safe, But Don't be a Pussy!

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September 15th, 2006, 16:02	#16
eglplt Junior Member Join Date: Oct 2005 Location: KDAL Posts: 164	Re: Nbaa 2006 Rumor has it that there will be some "big" anouncement at this years NBAA from Cessna regarding the CJ4 and a certain large fractional operator. Stay tuned to see what happens..............

September 15th, 2006, 16:20	#17
RynoB Senior Member Join Date: Jan 2006 Location: Bixby, OK Posts: 636	Re: Nbaa 2006 I was wondering if they would sweep the wing. I figure they've squeezed all they can out of the current wing. Still, we are routinely seeing 420 TAS and .736 Mach. Not much of an increase. I agree that the bleed air windshield anti-ice sucks. __________________ Ryan ATP (CE525, CE510, BE-300), SIC BE-400, CFI, CFII, MEI, IGI States I've landed in:

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