Thank you!!!

[SRA_kbad]

Originally Posted by H46Bubba;1003523[B

][/B]...the trolly and an excellent public transportation system.

Negative Sir.
The trolly doesn't go anywhere of interest, and nowadays, isn't the safest mode of travel either. I wouldn't recomend it.
The public transportation system in San Diego is only really helpful downtown. A rental car is the best bet in SD. All the sites are really only accessible by car anyways.

[Firebird2XC]

My connection kept eatin' my posts on this one.


Maybe those of us with ideas for locations could scout them out?

I'm sure sharing the legwork in setting things up would be appreciated by our wonderful hosts... Maybe we could put together a thread with the better ideas and have a poll? The final decision, of course, would belong to the Taylors.. but all the same...

[N826AW]

Originally Posted by Kristie

yea.. but figure anywhere other than vegas and you're going to need rental car.. that's a pretty big extra cost. unless we find somewhere that has subway/metro...

Yeah it sucks to have to rent a car when you're under 25 and rentals here in PHX are ridiculously expensive to begin with because of the facility taxes. Not to mention, you'd need to have DDs constantly because of the SDL po po.

DC sounds great, it's pretty easy for people to occupy themselves on their own. Lots of non-aviation stuff to see too. Then there's DuPont Circle for Max and Bigey (lol). And it's accessible via Amtrak for the NE corridor guys, DCA, IAD and BWI, so plenty of non-rev opportunities.

SAN is also very cool.

It really stinks that NYC is so expensive because it is such a great place and there's just a ton to do both in and out of aviation.

[H46Bubba]

Originally Posted by SRA_kbad

Negative Sir.
The trolly doesn't go anywhere of interest, and nowadays, isn't the safest mode of travel either. I wouldn't recomend it.
The public transportation system in San Diego is only really helpful downtown. A rental car is the best bet in SD. All the sites are really only accessible by car anyways.

I never have any problems with the trolly, as long as you don't go past 32nd Street Navy base, you should be fine. When I'm home, I park at Qualcom and take the trolly downtown to see the Pads. But you are correct about needing rental cars or vans anywhere else outside of downtown.

[WacoFan]

Vegas sounds like the winner for numerous reasons - cost, non-reving, and most importantly - Kristies peace of mind and ease.

Agree with Tony - DC is expensive if you stay downtown. Great town and I love going there (on an expense account), but it is pricey. I paid $260 for an "ok" room per night there this summer (weird, very liberal hotel but I would stay there again because they had a fun bar/club).

I am hoping that for next years event you can bring in MD Culpepper (www.mdculpepper.org) as a key-note speaker. He is about the only thing that could trump this year. Either way, I am planning to come.

[FlyChicaga]

Honestly, I really don't think you can top Vegas for our main Network JC event. I know it feels like it's getting old... However, when trying to wrangle nearly a hundred people together, it serves that purpose wonderfully. I really like the idea of San Diego, but having spent some time in that city I realize that we wouldn't have the ability to coordinate like we do in Las Vegas.

Here are a few ideas that some of us randomly came up with throughout the weekend:

• Have the networking event outside in a nice pool area. Somewhere with tables and chairs, where we can grill (purchase food at a Costco-type place, cheap) and drink alcohol trying to reduce costs and make it less formal.
• Make 9FI a Saturday night event, as long as we keep the Sun-Wed schedule. That way the tradition stays alive, and those showing up early can go to a place that isn't so loud you can chat and converse, yet also is lively enough that you can have fun.
• I know it was my idea, so that's why it seems I'm "pimping" it here. But how about Hofbrauhaus for a spot to meet for the Sunday (or Monday if changing the networking event time) party? It just seemed like an ideal spot due to the large tables and the fact they were open to us being loud and having fun. It seemed like it was even encouraged. Plus the ceiling is really high. However, everyone would need to purchase their food and drinks on separate checks. I'm not sure if there is another venue like it, but if there is that could be a possibility too. Just somewhere that caters to large groups and gives us the ability to have conversations yet get involved and have a good time.
• I think the LAS tower tour, MGM tour, etc. are all great. It gives a broad overview of each sector in aviation. Plus, as we do this each year, we'll just continue to build a rapport with each place. They'll start remembering us and what we are trying to accomplish.
• Definitely keep up the keynote speaker tradition.

Honestly, whatever we do, we'll make it a good time. Personally, I'd have a grand time even if we just bought several cases of MGD and hung out in the lobby of a Holiday Inn Express. To me it isn't about the hotel, the bar, the room, or the liquor. It's about seeing my friends and making new ones. It's about having fun with an outstanding group of individuals. That's the whole purpose of this website.

[Cazadores]

Hmmm.

It all started in Reno baby....Move it to the Biggest Little City!!!

[JEP]

Originally Posted by jdflight

I have to agree with Tony. Keep it in Vegas, for numerous reasons.

1. Everything is central, and it's extremely easy to get around.
2. Something for everybody, like Tony said.
3. Remember all the stuff Doug and Kristie bring with them. If they have to fly somewhere, it's going to be much more difficult to bring all the supplies along.
4. Relatively cheap rooms, and the ability to shop rooms, be in different hotels, and still be able to get together easily. A couple years ago, several people got rooms all over the strip. It was still very easy to meet up.
5. My fiancee has never been to Vegas, and I promised I'd bring her next year. Seriously.
6. 9 Fine Irishmen and tradition.
7. Relatively easy non-rev.

yeah to that on all the above. except the part about bringing my fiance....my wife might not like it....

[jdflight]

Originally Posted by FlyChicaga

• Plus the ceiling is really high.

Personally, I'd have a grand time even if we just bought several cases of MGD and hung out in the lobby of a Holiday Inn Express.

1. Hah!
2. Are you a JetCareers member? "No, but I stayed at a Holiday Inn Express last night."

[BobDDuck]

Originally Posted by FlyChicaga

Plus the ceiling is really high

And you like this because you will have a long way up to climb or it will prevent you from climbing to begin with?

[Kristie]

HAHA.....

one things for sure.. as soon as the girls see that, they're out there telling him to get down or be thrown out.

I'd hate to be thrown out of anywhere honestly...gives our group a bad name (that is IF our group name is ever tied to anything)

[FlyChicaga]

OK OK OK, I've already been enrolled in drunken climbers anonymous. No more swinging from the rafters.

[jtrain609]

Matt you're a member of the...

1. Drunken climbers club

2. Drunken tipping over porta potties club

3. Drunken running around parking lots at night with your sun glasses on while while hitting the "GO APE" button on other members of the forum key's...club.

4. Drunken, "Oh happy hour is ending? Yeah my FO here needs like 5 more of these" club.

And that's only one night!

[FlyChicaga]

OK, two things:

I did not climb anything that night.

I said three more, not five more.

[tonyw]

Originally Posted by FlyChicaga

OK, two things:

I did not climb anything that night.

I said three more, not five more.

Dude, you called me on my birthday to wish me a happy birthday, found out I was at a bar, and made the bartender make me shots.

[FlyChicaga]

Originally Posted by tonyw

Dude, you called me on my birthday to wish me a happy birthday, found out I was at a bar, and made the bartender make me shots.

[jtrain609]

See? SEE!? This is the I'm talkin' about!

[Seggy]

FlyChicaga can't hold his alcohol.

[Firebird2XC]

I'd like to take a moment to thank FlyChicaga for climbing those rafters.

It made me realize that it was not, in fact, a good idea. In fact, it made me realize that I'd have looked silly had I attempted it.

So... er.. here's to FlyChicaga.

[Kristie]

Originally Posted by tonyw

Dude, you called me on my birthday to wish me a happy birthday, found out I was at a bar, and made the bartender make me shots.

OH, that's GOOD!!!! not everyone can talk a bartender into making someone shots by phone!

[JaceTheAce]

I totally agree with having it in San Diego!!! (well, since I live here )

But seriously... there is so much to do. We could organize a chartered tour bus to take us to various places, plus I can offer to drive people around.

[ready2fly]

Don't know if this has thrown out there, but.......


How about next year in D.C.??

Tons...TONS of aviation stuff. TONS of interesting sights. TONS of convention hotels.......TONS of bars...Hell...Kennedy lives there most of the year.

Just a thought.

Discuss.

[Qgar]

I think it was mentioned earlier, Stan...but I'll second that motion.

[ready2fly]

Originally Posted by Qgar

I think it was mentioned earlier, Stan...but I'll second that motion.

That'll learn me not to read the entire thread.

[Qgar]

Damn pilots.....