Florida Institute of Technology

[Kestrel452]

[Sidious]

Originally Posted by Kestrel452

At $55,000 a year for flight at FIT, doesnt that seem kind of steep?

What courses did they say you could get done with that? Should be close to everything I would think. I dont see numbers for incoming freshman and its been almost 2 years since I finished the required stuff so my numbers are different.

[Kestrel452]

Thats the cost for one year at FIT: 1 years tuition plus the 15k for first year flight costs and housing costs for one year.

[Sidious]

Originally Posted by Kestrel452

Thats the cost for one year at FIT: 1 years tuition plus the 15k for first year flight costs and housing costs for one year.

That sounds about right then. It is expensive; no way to beat around that bush.

Did you get any scholorships? My tuition is only about 4 gs a semester (ha, only) because I was able to get a butt ton of scholorships. That is not including flight costs by the way.

[Bajan Hopeful]

Got a question for the instructors. How much students do you usually have per lesson?

[Kestrel452]

Instructors only teach one person at a time in the air. They may sometime have more than one student in the airplane just to show some concepts, but that is rare. 99% of the time it is only 2 people in a plane at a time, the student and the instructor. In fact at many flight schools it is against insurance policy to have anyone else in the plane during a lesson flight.

[Kestrel452]

Originally Posted by Sidious

That sounds about right then. It is expensive; no way to beat around that bush.

Did you get any scholorships? My tuition is only about 4 gs a semester (ha, only) because I was able to get a butt ton of scholorships. That is not including flight costs by the way.

In your case i can see why you went to FIT. But it is just suicide to pay that amount of money per year to major in flight if you are paying for it on your own. I just cannot justify the cost for what it is. How could anyone?

[Bajan Hopeful]

Originally Posted by Kestrel452

Instructors only teach one person at a time in the air. They may sometime have more than one student in the airplane just to show some concepts, but that is rare. 99% of the time it is only 2 people in a plane at a time, the student and the instructor. In fact at many flight schools it is against insurance policy to have anyone else in the plane during a lesson flight.

Yeah I know I actually meant how many persons in the aircraft like if you would have a flight partner or something, since I look at the timetable and me and this other person has the same flight instructor in the same timeslot every day.

[Jpax]

Originally Posted by Bajan Hopeful

Yeah I know I actually meant how many persons in the aircraft like if you would have a flight partner or something, since I look at the timetable and me and this other person has the same flight instructor in the same timeslot every day.

Probably a scheduling error.

[Sidious]

Originally Posted by Jpax

Probably a scheduling error.

ehhh... not so much

We are going to a cohort scheduling system where an instructor will have 2 students for every lesson. For the flights I believe it’s invaluable. I do not know how the grounds will be scheduled. This is just for Private as well; the other courses will not be affected.

[Jpax]

Originally Posted by Sidious

ehhh... not so much

We are going to a cohort scheduling system where an instructor will have 2 students for every lesson. For the flights I believe it’s invaluable. I do not know how the grounds will be scheduled. This is just for Private as well; the other courses will not be affected.

So it's basically a mandatory observation (+ participation now) for every lesson instead of x amount of hours/flights?

Boy, it'd be nice if the CFI got twice the pay for twice the students at a time! I would be pleasantly surprised if it did, but I don't see that one happening, though. Either way, $12/hr or $24/hr is miserable and atrociously below average of what a CFI should earn...

[Pilot5510]

I'm not a fan of this new rule at all. It seems like it would deprive the instructor of the ability to alter the lesson to benefit his student. Plus how much can the student learn when he is sitting in the back seat. I'm glad I won't have to do that in flight 4. It would be a good idea for the grounds, but I don't really agree with it during the flight.

[VectorVictor]

I also got accepted into FIT but decided not to go. I also got a chance to visit the old flight center, I was not impressed. The new one is definitely an upgrade.
Nothing in aviation is cheap, once you get that into your head, you can look at something for what it is regardless of price. If its a good school, then its something you should look further into. FIT is a good school from what I could see but everyplace has its pros and cons.

FIT is small and expensive. Its a tech school so not allot of the opposite sex. If you tell someone you go to FIT, they will always think of the Fashion Institute of Technology in New York. You will get to know the people allot more than in a larger school. You won't have to walk very far to go to your classes. Florida weather is craud in the summer.

I decided to go to a medium sized school with a school of business, Medical school, Law school and Engineering school. My university also has a campus in Spain. So I can pretty much study anything I want and still get my ratings. Its also a semi religious school so I am guessing there are not allot of people that just go to have sex and drink. At least that is what I hope. The school I decided to attend is Parks College of Engineering at Saint Louis University. I think I will major in Engineering.

PS: the airport SLU uses is located right underneath class B airspace, so you know its a good place to train at.

Just giving you a suggestion.

[MFT1Air]

You're not trying to hint that smart people don't drink and have sex, are you?

[Sidious]

Originally Posted by Jpax

So it's basically a mandatory observation (+ participation now) for every lesson instead of x amount of hours/flights?

For initial privates yep, thats the deal. Other flight courses will be changed later on-if ever.

I think its a good thing, I know I would have spent a hell of a lot less if I saw some kid make mistakes while I watched and vice versa. I observed in Flight 3 and 4 and I know it helped out.

[Bajan Hopeful]

Originally Posted by Pilot5510

I'm not a fan of this new rule at all. It seems like it would deprive the instructor of the ability to alter the lesson to benefit his student. Plus how much can the student learn when he is sitting in the back seat. I'm glad I won't have to do that in flight 4. It would be a good idea for the grounds, but I don't really agree with it during the flight.

When I started out training before I unfortunately had to stop I went up a couple times and observed from the back seat a fellow student. It does add something. Don't knock it until you actually do it.

[VectorVictor]

Originally Posted by MFT1Air

You're not trying to hint that smart people don't drink and have sex, are you?

You know what I mean.

[Pilot5510]

[QUOTE]When I started out training before I unfortunately had to stop I went up a couple times and observed from the back seat a fellow student. It does add something. Don't knock it until you actually do it./QUOTE]

I have done it before and that is why I was sharing my opinion. It might be beneficial for some people, but I do not believe that it should be mandatory for every student.

[Bajan Hopeful]

Originally Posted by Pilot5510

I have done it before and that is why I was sharing my opinion. It might be beneficial for some people, but I do not believe that it should be mandatory for every student.

Oh I get it now. The way you worded it I thought you were making it out to be a fact.

[727to7400]

[QUOTE=Pilot5510;1226880]

When I started out training before I unfortunately had to stop I went up a couple times and observed from the back seat a fellow student. It does add something. Don't knock it until you actually do it./QUOTE]

I have done it before and that is why I was sharing my opinion. It might be beneficial for some people, but I do not believe that it should be mandatory for every student.

If you do not believe it should be mandatory, I would recommend that you consider saving your time and money now and change career fields.

Observation is and always has been a major part of the program going back over 30 years. It is a serious benefit to the student that shows up, listens and watches. You will learn a lot from it...if you want to.

It's also a mandatory part of the industry. You don't have individual lessons in the airline business. You have a sim partner that you pair up with from the time ground school ends until you both finish. Same with LOFT training. In groundschool, you have groups that work together as well.

At this stage of your learning, you need to get the fundamentals. That's what FIT has taught so well for so many years and turned out superior pilots.

This industry is about teamwork...it begins by observing.

[Pilot5510]

[QUOTE]Oh I get it now. The way you worded it I thought you were making it out to be a fact./QUOTE]

No I did not mean for it to sound that way at all sorry.

[QUOTE]Observation is and always has been a major part of the program going back over 30 years. It is a serious benefit to the student that shows up, listens and watches. You will learn a lot from it...if you want to./QUOTE]

I have observed flights before and I did learn from it. I will continue to observe flights in the future. I also make sure to learn and listen from people more experienced than me, because it will make me a better pilot.

[QUOTE]It's also a mandatory part of the industry. You don't have individual lessons in the airline business. You have a sim partner that you pair up with from the time ground school ends until you both finish. Same with LOFT training. In groundschool, you have groups that work together as well./QUOTE]

I realize that, that is why I always chose to participate in study groups for both my flying and non-flying classes. CRM is a HUGE part in this industry. Sometimes I actually prefer a group environment because you get other opinions/techniques that you can learn from.

[QUOTE]This industry is about teamwork...it begins by observing./QUOTE]

Agreed! I just don't agree %100 with FIT forcing you to observe.

Connor Shea