Initial CFI

caliginousface · August 17th, 2006, 21:58

Alright so here it goes...

Last week 08/10/06 was the first date for the checkride with the inspector from the FSDO at SJC, Dave Witt. I got there at 8am, we did paperwork and waited for the plane to be a-ok'd by the other two inspectors, and then got started. So we got underway with the FOI material, So principals of learning, instructor responsiblities, methods of teaching, what is a downfall to lecture method got me. I didn't know the major disadvantage. We got to Aeromedical stuff, and this was where my first strike was. What is a SODA and what is the process. I never touched on this with any instructor, but even then I said I would call the AME and see what I should do should a student that has a medical problem come to me. I guess that wasn't good enough. So he says "it'll come back to you," yeah no it won't, I have no idea, and can't find it in the FARAIM. So we move on to fundamentals of flight, and this is where he felt I sucked at life. I couldn't relate and explain gyroscopic precession enough to a "4th grade drop out 75 year old car mechanic" person. So he said that I need come back with more 'experience' teaching a not so physics inclined student.

Fair enough, it was a good thing he failed me, even though I was steaming at the time.

So bam now we fast forward to today, after some more training with my instructor. Worst morning ever! Got the plane, fuel...not so much. No fuel place is open, the self serve won't scan the credit card, of course it's me always refilling the plane with oil

, couldn't get the plane to start (I've been sucking at this for the past week or so), AI tumbling blahhhh.

But things ironed out, got fuel at SJC and magically there was no fog this morning!

We start with 4 four forces of flight. So I explain all this stuff, and then I got myself in trouble. So for all you up and coming guys, answer the question, and shut up. I kept going into climbing flight, and then I went into left turning tendencies and he stopped me and said I was going to far. Lucky me! From there we went on to cover airspace, why do we have class E, what are cloud clearance requirements, what is SVFR, when would you use it, do you need to report when in VFR, adverse yaw, what happens to CG when fuel burns, go/no-go decisions for XC flight (something about pilot-airplane-environment-???) i've never heard it before, where would you land at night with an engine failure, what would you do when flying over mountains with an engine failure and you can't see anything, required use of oxygen, what is 830 about, how does the landing gear work, what is the purpose of this prop system and how does it work, what is a TAF, FA, and then stall and spin awareness.

I thought we'd cover more in depth on XC planning and airspace, but meh whatever.

Then I taught him turns around a point and 8's on pylons on the ground. However during this whole oral i'm talking 90 miles a minute because man I want t oget this done and i'm nervous. I totally forgot to name objectives and goals, completion standards, but eventually got to them as we talked about the maneuvers. And after about 3 hours oral part 2 was over. Sweet deal!

The cool thing about the flight was he was way more lenient on what was going on, he was having fun I think, he kept nudging my arm doing that "know what I mean" type thing.

Got a bite to eat down at the jet center, and we started the preflight. He asked no questions because he wanted to get out of the way at SJC, fair enough! The past week i'd been having the worst time starting this crap ass Arrow, but luckily the bitch fired up! Didn't start teaching until we left SJC airspace because he wanted to leave the business (I know it's not as busy as some of the places you guys fly, but whatev!). Did a soft field take, and headed towards South County/Hollister (Rob this info is for you), and I taught and did some steep turns, the worst power off stall in my life, lazy 8's, simulated engine failure into a straight in at Hollister. I didn't even know what runway it was! Hahaha ah well, so we left headed out west and taught him 8's on pylons and turns around a point. Starting going back towards SoCo, did slow flight, and then we got to SoCo and I taught him pattern entry and landings. Short field right on the money, then that was it!

He was satisfied, I was damn pleased, we peaced out back to SJC where they got their type on tippy typing me a new piece of paper!

So if you read all I typed up, have a beer. A lot of the detail was for Rob since he's coming up next if you're wondering why I was going all super detail.

If I had any advice to give another CFI appy, as always, be prepared, be confident, ready to teach anything to any type of student, and be comfortable in the plane.

Other than that you know the info, just make it available. You can fly the plane, so just tie everything together and make it happen!

MusketeerMan · August 17th, 2006, 23:04

Thanks for the great info! How indepthly did you get into FOI stuff??? Did you cover that the first time around???

caliginousface · August 17th, 2006, 23:45

He said we were going to hit the FOI heavy, but it wasn't as much as I had gone over beforehand. My instructor made sure I knew a lot of that stuff, but the inspector skimmd through it seemed. I gave one example for one principle of learning.

clumpinglitter · August 18th, 2006, 08:52

Quote:

Originally Posted by caliginousface

He was satisfied, I was damn pleased, we peaced out back to SJC where they got their type on tippy typing me a new piece of paper!

So if you read all I typed up, have a beer. A lot of the detail was for Rob since he's coming up next if you're wondering why I was going all super detail.

If I had any advice to give another CFI appy, as always, be prepared, be confident, ready to teach anything to any type of student, and be comfortable in the plane.

Other than that you know the info, just make it available. You can fly the plane, so just tie everything together and make it happen!

Congrats!

bike21 · August 18th, 2006, 09:12

Congrats! What a relief heh!?

caliginousface · August 18th, 2006, 12:16

Quote:

Originally Posted by clumpinglitter

Congrats!

Thanks mang! Hopefully you can knock yours out soon as well!

Quote:

Originally Posted by bike21

Congrats! What a relief heh!?

Not as big of a relief as I thought I would have, but i'm still down with it!

MusketeerMan · August 18th, 2006, 16:08

How indepthly did they get into weather...if at all??

caliginousface · August 18th, 2006, 21:19

We didn't touch weather theory at all, ah well.

August 17th, 2006, 21:58	#1
caliginousface Old Skool Join Date: Jul 2005 Location: san jose, ca Posts: 2,026	Initial CFI Alright so here it goes... Last week 08/10/06 was the first date for the checkride with the inspector from the FSDO at SJC, Dave Witt. I got there at 8am, we did paperwork and waited for the plane to be a-ok'd by the other two inspectors, and then got started. So we got underway with the FOI material, So principals of learning, instructor responsiblities, methods of teaching, what is a downfall to lecture method got me. I didn't know the major disadvantage. We got to Aeromedical stuff, and this was where my first strike was. What is a SODA and what is the process. I never touched on this with any instructor, but even then I said I would call the AME and see what I should do should a student that has a medical problem come to me. I guess that wasn't good enough. So he says "it'll come back to you," yeah no it won't, I have no idea, and can't find it in the FARAIM. So we move on to fundamentals of flight, and this is where he felt I sucked at life. I couldn't relate and explain gyroscopic precession enough to a "4th grade drop out 75 year old car mechanic" person. So he said that I need come back with more 'experience' teaching a not so physics inclined student. Fair enough, it was a good thing he failed me, even though I was steaming at the time. So bam now we fast forward to today, after some more training with my instructor. Worst morning ever! Got the plane, fuel...not so much. No fuel place is open, the self serve won't scan the credit card, of course it's me always refilling the plane with oil , couldn't get the plane to start (I've been sucking at this for the past week or so), AI tumbling blahhhh. But things ironed out, got fuel at SJC and magically there was no fog this morning! We start with 4 four forces of flight. So I explain all this stuff, and then I got myself in trouble. So for all you up and coming guys, answer the question, and shut up. I kept going into climbing flight, and then I went into left turning tendencies and he stopped me and said I was going to far. Lucky me! From there we went on to cover airspace, why do we have class E, what are cloud clearance requirements, what is SVFR, when would you use it, do you need to report when in VFR, adverse yaw, what happens to CG when fuel burns, go/no-go decisions for XC flight (something about pilot-airplane-environment-???) i've never heard it before, where would you land at night with an engine failure, what would you do when flying over mountains with an engine failure and you can't see anything, required use of oxygen, what is 830 about, how does the landing gear work, what is the purpose of this prop system and how does it work, what is a TAF, FA, and then stall and spin awareness. I thought we'd cover more in depth on XC planning and airspace, but meh whatever. Then I taught him turns around a point and 8's on pylons on the ground. However during this whole oral i'm talking 90 miles a minute because man I want t oget this done and i'm nervous. I totally forgot to name objectives and goals, completion standards, but eventually got to them as we talked about the maneuvers. And after about 3 hours oral part 2 was over. Sweet deal! The cool thing about the flight was he was way more lenient on what was going on, he was having fun I think, he kept nudging my arm doing that "know what I mean" type thing. Got a bite to eat down at the jet center, and we started the preflight. He asked no questions because he wanted to get out of the way at SJC, fair enough! The past week i'd been having the worst time starting this crap ass Arrow, but luckily the bitch fired up! Didn't start teaching until we left SJC airspace because he wanted to leave the business (I know it's not as busy as some of the places you guys fly, but whatev!). Did a soft field take, and headed towards South County/Hollister (Rob this info is for you), and I taught and did some steep turns, the worst power off stall in my life, lazy 8's, simulated engine failure into a straight in at Hollister. I didn't even know what runway it was! Hahaha ah well, so we left headed out west and taught him 8's on pylons and turns around a point. Starting going back towards SoCo, did slow flight, and then we got to SoCo and I taught him pattern entry and landings. Short field right on the money, then that was it! He was satisfied, I was damn pleased, we peaced out back to SJC where they got their type on tippy typing me a new piece of paper! So if you read all I typed up, have a beer. A lot of the detail was for Rob since he's coming up next if you're wondering why I was going all super detail. If I had any advice to give another CFI appy, as always, be prepared, be confident, ready to teach anything to any type of student, and be comfortable in the plane. Other than that you know the info, just make it available. You can fly the plane, so just tie everything together and make it happen! __________________

August 17th, 2006, 23:04	#2
MusketeerMan Old Skool Join Date: Jun 2006 Location: Elk Grove, CA Posts: 1,920	Re: Initial CFI Thanks for the great info! How indepthly did you get into FOI stuff??? Did you cover that the first time around??? __________________ JBDaP

August 17th, 2006, 23:45	#3
caliginousface Old Skool Join Date: Jul 2005 Location: san jose, ca Posts: 2,026	Re: Initial CFI He said we were going to hit the FOI heavy, but it wasn't as much as I had gone over beforehand. My instructor made sure I knew a lot of that stuff, but the inspector skimmd through it seemed. I gave one example for one principle of learning. __________________

August 18th, 2006, 09:12	#5
bike21 Old Skool Join Date: Nov 2004 Location: People's Republic of Boulder Posts: 2,214	Re: Initial CFI Congrats! What a relief heh!? __________________ Free SAPA! (and Tibet) ____________________ www.glenntilton.com

August 18th, 2006, 16:08	#7
MusketeerMan Old Skool Join Date: Jun 2006 Location: Elk Grove, CA Posts: 1,920	Re: Initial CFI How indepthly did they get into weather...if at all?? __________________ JBDaP

August 18th, 2006, 21:19	#8
caliginousface Old Skool Join Date: Jul 2005 Location: san jose, ca Posts: 2,026	Re: Initial CFI We didn't touch weather theory at all, ah well. __________________

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