Mei Checkride!!??

jg1585 · October 15th, 2005, 19:10

Im getting ready for the mei ride this month and was wondering if anybody has some feedback or advice or maybe how theres went. Im doing the MEI as my intial.

Wannabe2 · November 11th, 2005, 23:47

I did my MEI in May and I do a lot of MEI training now. Not sure how much more involved it is as your initial, but make sure you take control of whatever situation arises. If a landing isn't looking good shortly after the final turn for instance, have the student go around immediately. If he's about to bring up the gear above the safe gear operation speed don't meekly ask him to stop. Swat his hand away from the gear or something similar. The DPE's are looking for you to be in complete control and not let the student make silly/stupid mistakes.

Make sure you are teaching as you demonstrate maneuvers. The DPE will probably fly a few of the maneuvers and make mistakes on purpose to see if you will catch them. (trying to feather the wrong prop, turning off the wrong mags etc.) Stop him immediately and discuss the mistake he make and show him how to correct it.

Make sure you know the PTS for all of the maneuvers. I'm sure this is stuff you already know, but feel free to post specific questions or PM me if you want. Good luck if you haven't already done your ride. If you have, how did it go?

jg1585 · November 14th, 2005, 14:19

thanks for the feedback.. the checkride is sched. for nov 22nd in melbourne with a dpe..hopefully ill get it on the first go but we'll see what happens!.. Ill let you know how it goes when im done.. thanks again!

stultus · November 16th, 2005, 22:49

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Originally Posted by Wannabe2

I did my MEI in May and I do a lot of MEI training now. Not sure how much more involved it is as your initial, but make sure you take control of whatever situation arises. If a landing isn't looking good shortly after the final turn for instance, have the student go around immediately. If he's about to bring up the gear above the safe gear operation speed don't meekly ask him to stop. Swat his hand away from the gear or something similar. The DPE's are looking for you to be in complete control and not let the student make silly/stupid mistakes.

I don't know about the checkride, that can sometimes be a little dicey. However, as an MEI (or cfi for that matter) I've found the best (and hardest) thing to do is LET THE STUDENT MAKE MISTAKES. Keep your mouth shut for a while, a lot of times a student would've caught something right before you blurted out "watch your speed" or what ever. After the mistake has been made, take the plane and let them focus on what just happened and explain to them how it could have been done differently, then give them the plane back and let them do it again the right way. Of course, don't let students make unsafe mistakes e.g., stepping on the wrong rudder on a low altitude engine failure or coming in on short final without the gear down, et al.

Good luck on the checkride.

jg1585 · November 18th, 2005, 02:44

I agree, as an insrtuctor I think you have to let the student make the mistake sometimes and catch him/herself. The key is to not let the plane get beyond the capabitlities of you as an instructor. (ie letting the mistake go to far before stepping in and taking the controls).

jg1585 · November 25th, 2005, 14:48

well guys i finally passed the damn thing.. busted the oral at the very end on my brief. next day finished the oral and did the flight and passed. If anyone wants the rundown just let me know.

BrianNC · December 11th, 2005, 13:34

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Originally Posted by jg1585

well guys i finally passed the damn thing.. busted the oral at the very end on my brief. next day finished the oral and did the flight and passed. If anyone wants the rundown just let me know.

I'll take a rundown.

jg1585 · December 15th, 2005, 19:36

ok here it goes:

first did all the paperwork stuff and then she opened up pts and hit the FOI's. Did that for about and hour or so, it was mainly questions like what would you do if a student does this and so on.talked about defense mechanisms and how you would present material and lesson plans to students. Then she would talk or share a story about when she was a FI and what her students did,etc...

Next was aeromedical factors: carbon monoxide and hypoxia, nothing to in depth on that

then pricinples of flight: how does elevator work, got into airfoil design and controlability and stabiltity,

after a long discussion and aerodynamics and all the crap that goes with it we finally moved on, its been awhile since the checkride so i dont remember all of the questions.

She then pulled out a sectional and had me quiz her on airspace, she role played as a student and me as the instuctor, that was kinda different but it was cool. then questions about where you would solo a student what about if bad wx comes up during his/her first solo xc?

Then we talked about night ops, just basic stuff on that. Like how you would teach a student differences in flying at night verses day

then onto endorsements. lots of time on this, my examiner liked it if you knew the stuff from memory but would prefer if you looked stuff up. I was kinda shocked when she said that as i was ready to just blurt it out from memory.

the rest of the time was spent on a critical engine brief that went pretty good and then onto my Vmc brief which i screwed up royally at the end because i could not explain sideslip/zero sideslip condition well enough.

over all it was a pretty easy oral. it lasted about 7hrs with no lunch (i choose not to have a lunch because i wanted to get done asap), i think people put way to much worrying into this checkride. Just study hard for a couple weeks and get it over with.

The flight: EASY!!

Its just like a commercial multi execpt you have to explain what your doing, hell half the time the examiner is flying! just be vigilant about clearing turns and always being safe and youll be fine..

BrianNC · December 15th, 2005, 20:36

Thanks for the rundown.

Congrats!

Dazzler · December 16th, 2005, 11:35

Quote:

Originally Posted by jg1585

over all it was a pretty easy oral. it lasted about 7hrs with no lunch (i choose not to have a lunch because i wanted to get done asap), i think people put way to much worrying into this checkride. Just study hard for a couple weeks and get it over with.

I did far too much worrying pre-checkride!

Congratulations on getting it done! Feels good doesn't it?
I don't envy the 7 hour oral though. Mine was 3 hours and that was quite enough for me. AND I did the flying part on another day.

jg1585 · December 16th, 2005, 11:39

yeah i also did the flight portion on the second day.....there is no way i was gonna fly after a 7 hour brain marathon. and yes it does feel good to finally get that thing done and over with!

greaper007 · December 17th, 2005, 16:34

Were the initials of this examiners name cb? If so I may go with her. Are there any other tips or tricks you could offer me? What did she want for zero side slip, for you to say that you needed a yaw string? You can pm me if you don't feel comfortable discussing the stuff on here. Thanx

October 15th, 2005, 19:10	#1
jg1585 Junior Member Join Date: Sep 2005 Location: SRQ Posts: 40	Mei Checkride!!?? Im getting ready for the mei ride this month and was wondering if anybody has some feedback or advice or maybe how theres went. Im doing the MEI as my intial.

November 11th, 2005, 23:47	#2
Wannabe2 Junior Member Join Date: Dec 2001 Location: Houston, TX Posts: 224	I did my MEI in May and I do a lot of MEI training now. Not sure how much more involved it is as your initial, but make sure you take control of whatever situation arises. If a landing isn't looking good shortly after the final turn for instance, have the student go around immediately. If he's about to bring up the gear above the safe gear operation speed don't meekly ask him to stop. Swat his hand away from the gear or something similar. The DPE's are looking for you to be in complete control and not let the student make silly/stupid mistakes. Make sure you are teaching as you demonstrate maneuvers. The DPE will probably fly a few of the maneuvers and make mistakes on purpose to see if you will catch them. (trying to feather the wrong prop, turning off the wrong mags etc.) Stop him immediately and discuss the mistake he make and show him how to correct it. Make sure you know the PTS for all of the maneuvers. I'm sure this is stuff you already know, but feel free to post specific questions or PM me if you want. Good luck if you haven't already done your ride. If you have, how did it go? __________________ I could only wish more white shirts here had the balls to stand up for whats not right. -luv2av8

November 25th, 2005, 14:48	#6
jg1585 Junior Member Join Date: Sep 2005 Location: SRQ Posts: 40	Pass well guys i finally passed the damn thing.. busted the oral at the very end on my brief. next day finished the oral and did the flight and passed. If anyone wants the rundown just let me know.

December 15th, 2005, 19:36	#8
jg1585 Junior Member Join Date: Sep 2005 Location: SRQ Posts: 40	rundown ok here it goes: first did all the paperwork stuff and then she opened up pts and hit the FOI's. Did that for about and hour or so, it was mainly questions like what would you do if a student does this and so on.talked about defense mechanisms and how you would present material and lesson plans to students. Then she would talk or share a story about when she was a FI and what her students did,etc... Next was aeromedical factors: carbon monoxide and hypoxia, nothing to in depth on that then pricinples of flight: how does elevator work, got into airfoil design and controlability and stabiltity, after a long discussion and aerodynamics and all the crap that goes with it we finally moved on, its been awhile since the checkride so i dont remember all of the questions. She then pulled out a sectional and had me quiz her on airspace, she role played as a student and me as the instuctor, that was kinda different but it was cool. then questions about where you would solo a student what about if bad wx comes up during his/her first solo xc? Then we talked about night ops, just basic stuff on that. Like how you would teach a student differences in flying at night verses day then onto endorsements. lots of time on this, my examiner liked it if you knew the stuff from memory but would prefer if you looked stuff up. I was kinda shocked when she said that as i was ready to just blurt it out from memory. the rest of the time was spent on a critical engine brief that went pretty good and then onto my Vmc brief which i screwed up royally at the end because i could not explain sideslip/zero sideslip condition well enough. over all it was a pretty easy oral. it lasted about 7hrs with no lunch (i choose not to have a lunch because i wanted to get done asap), i think people put way to much worrying into this checkride. Just study hard for a couple weeks and get it over with. The flight: EASY!! Its just like a commercial multi execpt you have to explain what your doing, hell half the time the examiner is flying! just be vigilant about clearing turns and always being safe and youll be fine..

December 15th, 2005, 20:36	#9
BrianNC Senior Member Join Date: May 2005 Location: Charlotte, NC Posts: 817	Thanks for the rundown. Congrats! __________________ BrianNC

November 14th, 2005, 14:19	#3
jg1585 Junior Member Join Date: Sep 2005 Location: SRQ Posts: 40	thanks for the feedback.. the checkride is sched. for nov 22nd in melbourne with a dpe..hopefully ill get it on the first go but we'll see what happens!.. Ill let you know how it goes when im done.. thanks again!

November 18th, 2005, 02:44	#5
jg1585 Junior Member Join Date: Sep 2005 Location: SRQ Posts: 40	I agree, as an insrtuctor I think you have to let the student make the mistake sometimes and catch him/herself. The key is to not let the plane get beyond the capabitlities of you as an instructor. (ie letting the mistake go to far before stepping in and taking the controls).

December 16th, 2005, 11:39	#11
jg1585 Junior Member Join Date: Sep 2005 Location: SRQ Posts: 40	yeah i also did the flight portion on the second day.....there is no way i was gonna fly after a 7 hour brain marathon. and yes it does feel good to finally get that thing done and over with!

December 17th, 2005, 16:34	#12
greaper007 Senior Member Join Date: Oct 2004 Location: West Hartford, Ct Posts: 1,100	Were the initials of this examiners name cb? If so I may go with her. Are there any other tips or tricks you could offer me? What did she want for zero side slip, for you to say that you needed a yaw string? You can pm me if you don't feel comfortable discussing the stuff on here. Thanx __________________ <<<<<Hunter S. Thompson extends the Gonzo concept to flying.

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