How did you obtain Multi Time

Dreampilot · November 21st, 2007, 20:10

Hi everyone,

I am planning on starting flight training when I graduate this winter or maybe in the spring. My question is this though. I want to go to my local FBO(richmor) but they do not have any multi aircraft. What did others do to obtain their multi time. I was planning on taking out a 10K loan to finance my private and instrument because that is the only way I will get started in a timely fashion but will be working full time also. Just looking for suggestions or comments. Thanks everyone.

newty · November 21st, 2007, 20:16

I got my MEI (Multi Engine Instructor) cetificate and instructed for 200 hours in a multi. this is by far the cheapest way, infact you get paid to get your time.

mtsu_av8er · November 21st, 2007, 21:22

I had a student that wanted me to teach her to fly in her newly-acquired twin. So, she sent me away with her credit card in hand to obtain my multi-engine ticket.

Then, to get me enough multi PIC time to get my MEI, she bought me a plane ticket and sent me to New Mexico to pick up her newly-acquired Twin Comanche. After she paid me by the day to fly it back to Middle Tennessee, she sent me away again, with her credit card, to get my MEI.

Later on, I scammed a few hundred more hours by getting paid to fly freight.

madmax · November 22nd, 2007, 00:00

I flew about 20hrs of my commercial/IR training in the schools twin. If you do it this way you end up only paying ~$100/hr more than you would otherwise. Otherwise you will end up having to buy blocks of time for $200/hr (not sure what the going rate is).

As far as training goes, I really enjoyed my pt.141 experience. Some of the benefits I've enjoyed have been getting to know my check pilots really well, having more than a handful of aircraft and there are usually instructors willing to go up if yours is unable too. You also don't "Fail" check flights

Nihon_Ni · November 23rd, 2007, 03:27

My first 78 hrs of twin time were as a rental pilot. I got my PPMEL, then Commercial, then MEI (over a number of years) all as a renter. I normally budget $400/month for flying so when it came to flying the twin, I just flew it less hours than I normally flew the singles (but still $400 worth). It's the same deal when I fly gliders.

By hanging around the FBO I got a free .7 one day when they had to take the twin in for maintenance. I was working on my commercial SE and my instructor (who was also a MEI) had to move the airplane. He put me in the left seat and let me do the flying since I had a PPMEL at the time.

I also did some volunteer flying for Angle Flight in the twin as a rental pilot. I had to pay for it all, but every dime was tax deductable. In the end, that made it just a little more expensive than flying a C-172 for personal reasons (that weren't tax deductable). Unless you itemize your tax deductions, this probably won't be of much help to you, but who knows. That's how I did it, and that's what you were asking.

Personally, I'd encourage you to seek solutions where you didn't have to borrow money to get your tickets. But that's just me. Maybe you could get a second job and use all the money from that job for flying. Then when someone asks you how you got all your ME time you can say "I delivered pizzas for it" (or whatever). I had a roommate who took a big loan to get his PPL, then sat around for 2 yrs not flying because his loan payments took all of his spending money. I'd hate to see you go through the same experience.

Blue skies,
Rob

sdfcvoh · November 26th, 2007, 22:13

I'm planning on auctioning off our firstborn. Takers?

t-cart · November 26th, 2007, 22:46

I did it the old fashioned way,,,,,,,,,,,I bought an Apache!!! FLY SAFE T.C.

dc3flyer · November 27th, 2007, 09:01

I just ran into a guy that had a atwin and asked if I could ride along. Eventually, he let me do the 3 solo TO/LNDGS to get multi current, then I could log some PIC time!!!! He introduced me to another guy who had the same kind of plane (who was NOT a pilot) and I had a new job!!!!

Then one of my students bought a multi, and needed an MEI. I paid for gas in their machine and off I went.

It's all about WHO you know!

Velocipede · November 27th, 2007, 09:43

Joined the military. Everything I flew after flight school was multiengined.

GalaxyIFE · November 27th, 2007, 10:50

Quote:

Originally Posted by mtsu_av8er

I had a student that wanted me to teach her to fly in her newly-acquired twin. So, she sent me away with her credit card in hand to obtain my multi-engine ticket.

Then, to get me enough multi PIC time to get my MEI, she bought me a plane ticket and sent me to New Mexico to pick up her newly-acquired Twin Comanche. After she paid me by the day to fly it back to Middle Tennessee, she sent me away again, with her credit card, to get my MEI.

Later on, I scammed a few hundred more hours by getting paid to fly freight.

Sounds like a dream woman...

mtsu_av8er · November 27th, 2007, 16:09

Quote:

Originally Posted by GalaxyIFE

Sounds like a dream woman...

Well, I wouldn't go that far . . . lol. She could fly for crap!

surreal1221 · November 27th, 2007, 19:23

Through PMEL add-on, CMEL training, and an MEI. . .that's how.

777forever · November 29th, 2007, 12:10

November 21st, 2007, 20:10	#1
Dreampilot Junior Member Join Date: Dec 2005 Posts: 134	How did you obtain Multi Time Hi everyone, I am planning on starting flight training when I graduate this winter or maybe in the spring. My question is this though. I want to go to my local FBO(richmor) but they do not have any multi aircraft. What did others do to obtain their multi time. I was planning on taking out a 10K loan to finance my private and instrument because that is the only way I will get started in a timely fashion but will be working full time also. Just looking for suggestions or comments. Thanks everyone.

November 21st, 2007, 20:16	#2
newty Junior Member Join Date: Aug 2003 Location: mapleton utah Posts: 202	Re: How did you obtain Multi Time I got my MEI (Multi Engine Instructor) cetificate and instructed for 200 hours in a multi. this is by far the cheapest way, infact you get paid to get your time. __________________ "Once he told me why, he said we all have to fly someday." neil young

November 21st, 2007, 21:22	#3
mtsu_av8er Old Skool Join Date: Dec 2002 Location: Utopia Posts: 12,398	Re: How did you obtain Multi Time I had a student that wanted me to teach her to fly in her newly-acquired twin. So, she sent me away with her credit card in hand to obtain my multi-engine ticket. Then, to get me enough multi PIC time to get my MEI, she bought me a plane ticket and sent me to New Mexico to pick up her newly-acquired Twin Comanche. After she paid me by the day to fly it back to Middle Tennessee, she sent me away again, with her credit card, to get my MEI. Later on, I scammed a few hundred more hours by getting paid to fly freight. __________________ ------- "Sadness bears no remedy for the problems in your life."

November 22nd, 2007, 00:00	#4
madmax Junior Member Join Date: Nov 2007 Location: Pacific Northwest Posts: 292	Re: How did you obtain Multi Time I flew about 20hrs of my commercial/IR training in the schools twin. If you do it this way you end up only paying ~$100/hr more than you would otherwise. Otherwise you will end up having to buy blocks of time for $200/hr (not sure what the going rate is). As far as training goes, I really enjoyed my pt.141 experience. Some of the benefits I've enjoyed have been getting to know my check pilots really well, having more than a handful of aircraft and there are usually instructors willing to go up if yours is unable too. You also don't "Fail" check flights __________________ "I wish people would stop using "national security" when they mean "fear" or "downright stupidity"." - Chief Captain If you're not cheating, you're not trying

November 23rd, 2007, 03:27	#5
Nihon_Ni Junior Member Join Date: Oct 2007 Location: Okinawa, Japan Posts: 207	Re: How did you obtain Multi Time My first 78 hrs of twin time were as a rental pilot. I got my PPMEL, then Commercial, then MEI (over a number of years) all as a renter. I normally budget $400/month for flying so when it came to flying the twin, I just flew it less hours than I normally flew the singles (but still $400 worth). It's the same deal when I fly gliders. By hanging around the FBO I got a free .7 one day when they had to take the twin in for maintenance. I was working on my commercial SE and my instructor (who was also a MEI) had to move the airplane. He put me in the left seat and let me do the flying since I had a PPMEL at the time. I also did some volunteer flying for Angle Flight in the twin as a rental pilot. I had to pay for it all, but every dime was tax deductable. In the end, that made it just a little more expensive than flying a C-172 for personal reasons (that weren't tax deductable). Unless you itemize your tax deductions, this probably won't be of much help to you, but who knows. That's how I did it, and that's what you were asking. Personally, I'd encourage you to seek solutions where you didn't have to borrow money to get your tickets. But that's just me. Maybe you could get a second job and use all the money from that job for flying. Then when someone asks you how you got all your ME time you can say "I delivered pizzas for it" (or whatever). I had a roommate who took a big loan to get his PPL, then sat around for 2 yrs not flying because his loan payments took all of his spending money. I'd hate to see you go through the same experience. Blue skies, Rob

November 26th, 2007, 22:13	#6
sdfcvoh Senior Member Join Date: Apr 2007 Location: That one Posts: 866	Re: How did you obtain Multi Time I'm planning on auctioning off our firstborn. Takers? __________________ I want to die like my grandfather did, peacefully in his sleep. Not screaming in terror like his passengers.

November 26th, 2007, 22:46	#7
t-cart Senior Member Join Date: Aug 2006 Location: In the sticks Posts: 595	Re: How did you obtain Multi Time I did it the old fashioned way,,,,,,,,,,,I bought an Apache!!! FLY SAFE T.C.

November 27th, 2007, 09:01	#8
dc3flyer Senior Member Join Date: Aug 2006 Location: Everywhere Posts: 1,107	Re: How did you obtain Multi Time I just ran into a guy that had a atwin and asked if I could ride along. Eventually, he let me do the 3 solo TO/LNDGS to get multi current, then I could log some PIC time!!!! He introduced me to another guy who had the same kind of plane (who was NOT a pilot) and I had a new job!!!! Then one of my students bought a multi, and needed an MEI. I paid for gas in their machine and off I went. It's all about WHO you know! __________________ Paid to wait.... Fly for fun!

November 27th, 2007, 09:43	#9
Velocipede Old Skool Join Date: Feb 2007 Location: Pacific NW Posts: 2,425	Re: How did you obtain Multi Time Joined the military. Everything I flew after flight school was multiengined. __________________ "Humankind cannot stand very much reality." - T.S. Eliot

November 27th, 2007, 19:23	#12
surreal1221 Old Skool Join Date: Jul 2006 Location: Alpha Tango Lima Posts: 8,513	Re: How did you obtain Multi Time Through PMEL add-on, CMEL training, and an MEI. . .that's how. __________________ AGI.MEI.CFI.CFII.FO.CRJ2 \| Josh \|The TRoP \| Ramble On \|ALPA \| Your DD-214 is where?

November 29th, 2007, 12:10	#13
777forever Old Skool Join Date: Mar 2006 Location: ATL Posts: 1,684	Re: How did you obtain Multi Time mei __________________ Comm-ASEL, MEL, Inst. CFI, CFII, MEI TT: 700 Part 121 ATR72 FO B.S. Aviation Management-Business Minor Southeastern Oklahoma State University Cum Laude Graduate

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