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Old May 16th, 2006, 03:17   #1
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What is part 161 or part 141 school? I just got the general idea of it and would like to know more. Does it have more or less influence on the resume?

Thks to all for the information and suggestion. It does help me on making my decision easier everytime I read your information and suggestion. Thks a buddle!!!
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Old May 16th, 2006, 07:04   #2
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It all depends on what you want out of it. In general part 61 is cheaper and you just get your ratings.

In part 141 you can obtain your 4 year college degree while getting very indepth training. A more expensive route.

I was trained in the 141 environment and found myself very well prepared for my first job and subsequent jobs. I have also flown with guys that were equally as knowledgable with part 61 backgrounds. I however, found that in very generally speaking, part 61 schools don't hit academics as much and concentrate more on just stick and rudder skills required to pass a checkride.
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Old May 16th, 2006, 09:53   #3
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I wanted to get into an airline company ASAP after getting my license so I would have some income to pay back my loan. I am looking at ATP (141), California Flight Center (141), and Aero West Aviation (61). ATP and CFC are alittle expensive but I do not mind if it give me an edge when shopping for a job.
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Old May 16th, 2006, 12:14   #4
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As long as you don't find yourself with CAPT, you're fine. They pretty much screwed me with job placement after all the time and money I put into it. Now I'm walking away from aviation because of them. They're being bought out by some company (to be announced in the next month). Just do your research so that whatever brand they end up ####### themselves with, you'll know not to go with them. If you have any questions, feel free to PM me for more information.

Generally speaking, airlines are more interested in your experience rather than where you got your training from. If you can show up with at least 1000 hours of total time and 100 hours of multi-engine time, you're pretty good to go with most regional airlines. Do the financial math and go with the cheapest route. Just remember, an hour is an hour is an hour on your log books. It just depends on how much you're willing to pay for that hour.
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Old May 16th, 2006, 13:50   #5
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I wanted to get into an airline company ASAP after getting my license so I would have some income to pay back my loan. I am looking at ATP (141), California Flight Center (141), and Aero West Aviation (61). ATP and CFC are alittle expensive but I do not mind if it give me an edge when shopping for a job.

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Old June 26th, 2006, 21:48   #6
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At this point in time the type of school doesnt matter. Will part 61 get you there faster than part 141? Probably... Part 61 is alot less structured (you read the book and if you have questions, ask). 141 you get class time weather you need it or not. The real question is what kind of pilot are you? Anyone can do 61 or 141 and you might be the best pilot in the world, but if you go to a shady joint with a brand spankin new CFI then you are going to spend a whole lot more money. Ground school is cheap. Flying is way expensive. 70 percent of CFI's are brand spankin new and have no clue whats going on because the school they work for hasnt clued them in. They go off what they know and the school makes money so they are happy and you are poor. Everything is jiggy until you are 40 hours into flight instruction,and realize that the pro pilot program you are in quoted you a price for 25. Then it gets real. You want to get it done, but wonder why you instructor keeps finding things wrong even when he has said you are the best student he has had ( you are the only student).

My advice... do not go to a school that quotes the FAA minumums. do your research and find a good school... Look for a learning syllabus. Cessna learning centers have that, and I would look into a local place that is a Cessna learning center.... My local center is a part 61, I think they all are, but you will know what you are supposed to be learning before you go up, and that is the key to saving money... Ground school is nothing, Flight time is everything.

Don't think I am a Cessna spokesman or anything. I learned my lesson from a podunk part 61 school called " Orlando Flight Training ". Go with a structured school and make sure you know what you are going to be doing before you go in the air.... And for pete's sake do not go to " ORLANDO FLIGHT TRAINING "
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At this point in time the type of school doesnt matter. Will part 61 get you there faster than part 141? Probably... Part 61 is alot less structured (you read the book and if you have questions, ask). 141 you get class time weather you need it or not. The real question is what kind of pilot are you? Anyone can do 61 or 141 and you might be the best pilot in the world, but if you go to a shady joint with a brand spankin new CFI then you are going to spend a whole lot more money. Ground school is cheap. Flying is way expensive. 70 percent of CFI's are brand spankin new and have no clue whats going on because the school they work for hasnt clued them in. They go off what they know and the school makes money so they are happy and you are poor. Everything is jiggy until you are 40 hours into flight instruction,and realize that the pro pilot program you are in quoted you a price for 25. Then it gets real. You want to get it done, but wonder why you instructor keeps finding things wrong even when he has said you are the best student he has had ( you are the only student).

My advice... do not go to a school that quotes the FAA minumums. do your research and find a good school... Look for a learning syllabus. Cessna learning centers have that, and I would look into a local place that is a Cessna learning center.... My local center is a part 61, I think they all are, but you will know what you are supposed to be learning before you go up, and that is the key to saving money... Ground school is nothing, Flight time is everything.

Don't think I am a Cessna spokesman or anything. I learned my lesson from a podunk part 61 school called " Orlando Flight Training ". Go with a structured school and make sure you know what you are going to be doing before you go in the air.... And for pete's sake do not go to " ORLANDO FLIGHT TRAINING "
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Old June 27th, 2006, 12:24   #8
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I agree with SGTCIV. While I have not personally trained 141, I have talked to many who have. The key is to find a knowledgable instructor. I am currently training at an FBO in Oshkosh, WI (part 61). My instructor has 26,000 hours + flew over half of that in large planes. While my other flight training part 61 was good (instructor with 800 hours), I learned a lot from my new instructor's experience.

When I first was deciding what to do, I used this website as a great tool in that endevor. I am sure if you hunt around, you can find a great place part 61 or 141 that has great instructors.
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