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December 19th, 2005, 18:32
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Alrighty then, first post here. I'm curious to know at what age the oldest career changer you know changed over to aviation.
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December 19th, 2005, 19:41
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December 19th, 2005, 20:09
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I knew a guy who went through ATP's program who was 50. He was an Engineer for Bell Helicopter and decided to become a pilot... Bob
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December 19th, 2005, 20:58
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Hey Captain Bob, This is Jelani, I wrote you an email a long time ago and you were awesome enough to give me an unbiased opinion. How are you? Hope that you and your family are doing swell. -Jelani P.S. I sent you a PM a while back on jetcareers.....did you receive it? |
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December 19th, 2005, 21:33
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Thanks for making my day.  A long day at the desk job (Engr) and thoughts that it will be another 2 years + before I could even be close to the hours to get a job flying somewhere.I thought I would be the oldest, but guess not. |
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December 20th, 2005, 07:28
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I guess there still is hope for us older folks........lets just call us seasoned instead of old.
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December 20th, 2005, 10:35
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Sorry, no use sugarcoating it, you're old...
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December 20th, 2005, 10:53
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So far, only a couple of useful replies. I was hoping to get some honest, informational - read "not-for-entertainment-purposes-only" - replies. So, if you are "young" you need not chime in on this post.
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December 20th, 2005, 11:18
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Here is your original post: Quote:
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December 20th, 2005, 11:32
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[quote=SteveC]Kind of tough to get "useful replies" when you really haven't asked any "useful questions". It's a very simple question. Have your nanny decipher it for you. |
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December 20th, 2005, 11:43
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[quote=rhilberg] Quote:
Here's my two cents. The simple question you ask can be answered by young and old. What difference does it make? | |
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December 20th, 2005, 12:03
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I don't know what kind of experience this guy has, but judging by the catty personal attack with the Nanny comment, I'd say he's got The Right Stuff. For Flightinfo.com, anyway. Jeez, these are my peers?  Hey, bud, no one's going to offer information if you show so little respect. There are 21-year-olds out there with valuable experience and some of them are worth listening to.
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December 20th, 2005, 13:23
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Let me try again: "Now, if you have some more specific questions, or would like to share some information about yourself and what kind of plans you are considering, then maybe some of the more "mature" individuals here might be able to give you some feedback that you could actually use. Shoot, there might even be some younger folks that have some useful information as well." I may or may not be older than you. Doesn't really matter, does it? I had one full, very successful career, and am well on my way in a second. I might have some information or experiences that could be useful to you. Might not. Won't know unless you ask. Nicely. .
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December 20th, 2005, 14:07
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Ok, the reason I decided that the posts were getting off track and irrelevant, blaming on "young" - read immature - folks - is that Golemember wrote, Sorry, no use sugarcoating it, you're old... And blakman7 wote, Hey Captain Bob, This is Jelani, I wrote you an email a long time ago and you were awesome enough to give me an unbiased opinion. How are you? Hope that you and your family are doing swell. -Jelani P.S. I sent you a PM a while back on jetcareers.....did you receive it? Whereas Captain Bob and wheelsup answered my question directly without any nonsense. Thank you Captain Bob and wheelsup. I thought that the comment by SteveC was equally off-track since my particular circumstances don't affect an objective reply to my question which would simply be a number. Hope that clears it up. No offense intended - sorry I retorted back rather harshly. |
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December 20th, 2005, 14:34
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rhilberg. Welcome to the wonderful, wacky, and often sarcastic world of jetcareers. Thread creep is a fact of life here so you sometimes have to wade through the BS to find what you're looking for. I saw your first post but don't really know any career changers. I think a lot would have to do with your expectations out of the career. You want to be a CFI, there is no age limit. The higher up the ladder your expectations are, the harder it's going to be for you to meet them and the older you are, the harder it's going to be to meet them. There is a seperate forum here for career changers. I'd suggest you ask this question over there. And for the rest of you. It would be nice if you cut the new guys some slack... Last edited by DE727UPS; December 20th, 2005 at 15:22. |
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December 20th, 2005, 14:44
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Stephen, I moved your post out of this thread and opened a new thread under the changing careers forum. It would have been best to start a new thread there vs taking this thread somewhat off tangent! not a problem.. but you'd get much better responses over there, for sure!!
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December 20th, 2005, 16:20
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[quote=DE727UPS] . . . I think a lot would have to do with your expectations out of the career. . . . Excellent points - all appreciated! And thanks for the welcome and warning! Part of the general nature of my question is that I am trying to realistically *adjust* my expectations based on the replies I receive. I'm fairly open minded about a career (or non-career) in aviation at the moment, and before I forge down a path too seriously I would like to form realistic goals for myself and my family and career. Thusfar, I'm pleasantly encouraged. Cheers. |
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December 20th, 2005, 17:10
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you know what.. i'm gonna move this up to the career changing forum because it really sounds more like that type of thread vs an ATP thread! in there, you'll probably get a lot more responses.
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December 20th, 2005, 17:28
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It belongs here. I would have done it myself but I didn't want to experiment at being a moderator at a new guys thread...hehe.
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December 20th, 2005, 17:46
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Ok, cool. I'm limited to ATP because of my particular circumstances, however. Thanks.
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December 20th, 2005, 19:25
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December 21st, 2005, 09:10
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[QUOTE=rhilberg] Quote:
I know one guy who got his private, then a few years later, he decided he wanted to fly for a living. During the next year, he got all his ratings & certs including CFI and ME. He got a job flying freight in light twins. They paid him chicken scratch, of course. He ended up buying a flight school and some trainer airplanes. Now, he flies corporate and manages a flight department. He's making a good living at it. He started his post PPL training when he was older than I am now, so that's encouraging. I also met a guy who's switching careers from engineer to pilot. I don't know how old he is exactly, but he's significantly older than I am. Right now, he's flying freight in light twins around the upper midwest. His schedule is tough, and he's flying a LOT. There's pretty much no time for a real life, because he's up all night flying and also out of town most of the time. I'm not sure if he's going to stay with it or not. -C. | |
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December 21st, 2005, 09:13
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Stan, we were having that exact conversation at work the other day. It does get frustrating seeing people with 300 hours less than you with about 100 hours less multi getting hired, and the only difference between them and you is about 10 years. Wheelsup, I think I know the guy you're talking about. He was in the same class as my friend that went through PACE.
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December 21st, 2005, 10:11
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wheels, I think I know who you are talking about also, I think he had 1400TT when he started PACE. It was fun having him in our study group because he was always stopping and taking phone calls from his managers and running his two businesses over the phone, "Don't make me fly down there to fix your problems." was a common thing he'd say. (He owned his own plane that he used to fly around to check on his businesses and to go for vacations at his horse ranch in Lake Havasu.) He pretty much understood that he'd never make it to a major and he just wanted a change. He seemed satisfied with what he's accomplished so far. He was definitely the oldest guy in our group (at 52), the next one after him was a 42 year old musician, a 42 year old structural engineer, 37 year old flight attendant, 36-year old Air Force major.
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December 22nd, 2005, 22:32
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I'm 31 and I left a job I hated. I am now a flight instructor, building time, poor as sh#t, but still with a mortgage. Key Bank will have to sent their assault squad to come and get me, and Katrina changed my entire career change plan (go figure). I wouldn't change a thing (Okay, maybe the money). I'm out here hustling, like going to work again, and still basking in the afterglow of getting paid to fly. It is all what you want to do (and what your spouse will let you).
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