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February 24th, 2008, 17:21
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Well. I have not begun my flight training and decided that I should knock out my ppl knowledge test. I got a 72  . It is only 2 points from failing. I am only 15, turning 16 in may but when I turn 17, will this make the DPE get angry, or fail me much easier than If I got 90+. I have self studied all this stuff before I took the test and now that i have an official instructor, I am going to go over all of the stuff that I missed on the test. Test taking, atleast written tests have never been my stregth, but I always do great on practical tests, or times when I have to explain myself so I plan on doing a 100% perfect checkride and oral.
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February 24th, 2008, 17:47
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|  Re: 72 on knowledge test.
I think you'll be fine. It seems like you have the right attitude and you have a plan to fix it. Study the weak points on that exam like you said because the DPE will most likely focus the oral on that. Come prepared and you will be set.
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February 24th, 2008, 17:48
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Wait a second, didn't you post a thread a few days ago stating that you got an 85?
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February 24th, 2008, 18:02
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__________________ . If life gives you lemons, throw 'em into a quart of vodka. ~Red Green |
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February 24th, 2008, 18:02
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I really didnt want anyone to know that I did this bad at that time and I am unable to edit my post in the member announcement forum to put my real grade. Sorry!!!!!!!  | |
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February 24th, 2008, 18:03
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February 24th, 2008, 18:06
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Did you get an 85 or a 72? I thought I just read a thread of yours the other day saying 85? Anyways, to the question at hand. Heres the way I look at it... Try to score as high as possible, but as soon as you take the test, forget about the score. It doesn't mean anything. Whether you get a 100 or a 70 you have passed, and partially earned your right to take the practical. What matters now is being fully prepared for the practical when the time comes. Think of it this way. What good would it be for the kid that scores a 100 on the written, when he bombs questions during the oral? Now lets look at your scenario. Who's gonna give a crap about your 72 , when you go into that oral, and your answering every question correct? Have fun in your flight training, and don't skip or partially learn any steps. If it's mentioned in the PTS its gonna be fair game on the practical. |
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February 24th, 2008, 18:10
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February 24th, 2008, 18:20
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Anyway, the DPE isn't going to be angry. He will almost certainly quiz you over the things you missed, but if you're well prepared overall then you shouldn't worry. You can always take the knowledge test again later if you're still worried about your score. A 72 on your PPL written is far from a disaster. I've met people who had to take it two or three times to even pass. | |
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February 24th, 2008, 18:56
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So you are saying you worked two points too hard?
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February 24th, 2008, 18:58
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February 24th, 2008, 19:03
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Use that 72% as motivation to get a "100%" on the oral. The examiner will look at the score. Turn it into a positive.
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February 24th, 2008, 19:06
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__________________ Rule #8: No matter how responsible he seems, never give your gun to a monkey. | |
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February 24th, 2008, 19:11
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February 24th, 2008, 19:41
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You will forever be handicaped by your low low score. No airline will ever hire you with such a low score. Sarcasm I mean it's not like "somebody I know" that got a 70 on his. Nobody really cares, just make certian you know your stuff for the oral.
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February 24th, 2008, 19:45
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February 24th, 2008, 19:55
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February 24th, 2008, 20:23
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Perfect! 
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February 24th, 2008, 20:25
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Oh yea, I got a 70% on my private written.  |
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February 24th, 2008, 20:50
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Once the checkride is over your knowledge test score is no longer relevant to anything you'll be doing, and won't show up at a later date. "Someone" got a 72% on their instument written.. ::Shhhh:: |
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February 24th, 2008, 21:18
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I wouldn't stress at all. It will be a while before you take your checkride and I like the initiative of getting it done early. I have to harp on all of my students to get there written done even after they have soloed! Each examiner is different. My examiner took the copy of my knowledge test and stuffed it in the folder. I am not even sure he looked at the grade. Also now that most use IACRA (an online application for your PPL) the system verifies that you passed and thats it. My test scores went up as I got further along in my training. Most importantly be honest. Integrity matters more than any failed written or checkride. You owned up to it, way to go. PPL-Low 80s Inst-Mid 80s Commercial-Mid 90s CFI- Mid 90s CFII- Perfect! ATP- 96 -Jason www.flyboulder.com |
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February 24th, 2008, 21:37
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| Re: 72 on knowledge test. What you're up against is human nature. When you sit down with the examiner, after a little howdy-duty, he'll ask for (usually in this order) his check and proof you are qualified to get a PPL: your logbook, endorsements, certificate, and test results. Now follow me through 2 examples: Pilot A: test grade 95% It's human nature for the DPE's first impression of this pilot to be positive. "This guy knows what he's doing and this should be an easy check ride." Later in the oral or practical he has trouble in a few areas (everybody does) where the examiner can use some discretion and the examiner gives him the benefit of the doubt, since "This guy knows what he's doing and this should be an easy check ride." Pilot B: test grade 72% It's human nature for the DPE's first impression of this pilot to be negative. "This guy barely made it through the test and he will probably do the same thing here." Later in the oral or practical he has trouble in a few areas (everybody does) where the examiner can use some discretion and the examiner doesn't give him the benefit of the doubt. "I knew it! This guy barely made it through the test and he will probably do the same thing here. All I had to do was dig a little to find his shortcomings." It's simply human nature to let your first impression taint future information. It takes less information for us to agree with our first impression than it does for us to realize our first impression was wrong. Now that you know this, you can be prepared. You have an uphill (but not insurmountable) battle to show him your test score in not an accurate measure of your current knowledge level. This is one of the reasons I don't let my students take the written until they can show me 3 practice tests of 90% or better. (The larger reason is that you really do need to know all of that info.)
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February 24th, 2008, 22:39
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Who cares about a 72? Don't sweat it you've got a long time between the test and your practical to fully know the answer to any possible questions your going to get thrown at you in the oral. In my dealings with DE's, they want the money UP FRONT, in CASH, then you do the paperwork. They look for a PASS on the written and then go from there. Most of these guys (or gals) have been doing what they do for a long time and have a set method of examination thats hits everything. So the guy that scored a 100 is going to get the same ride as the guy who got a 70-as long as you know what the answers are. You mess up and they start digging as deep as the guy who made a 100. And out of curiosity how would the DE ask question about what the guy missed without getting a book out and looking up the codes for the questions? |
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February 24th, 2008, 23:03
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I'm going to give you the philosophy that got me through 4 (ok 5) years of college "C's Get Degrees." Don't worry about it, most examiners don't even look at the grade. Just make sure your knowledge is good when you go for your oral exam, I'm guessing that will be a couple months away at least.
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February 25th, 2008, 02:27
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How did you get a 72 ? There are 60 questions. 43 out of 60 = .716, 44 out of 60 = .733 ? Do the test round a .716 to a .72 ?
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