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Old December 11th, 2007, 22:13   #1
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Default Pivotal Altitude

Is there a quick way to figure what the pivotal altitude will be for a specific groundspeed?

edit: I accidentally put this here, it was meant for the CFI section.
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Old December 12th, 2007, 00:48   #2
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IDK about GS but do you know the formula for TAS?
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Old December 12th, 2007, 01:28   #3
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IDK about GS but do you know the formula for TAS?
Not sure about TAS but GS is knots squared divided by 11.35. I was just asking if there is an easier way to figure it out.
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Old December 12th, 2007, 01:38   #4
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There's no requirement to figure it out in flight. If you're thinking about this for a checkride just calculate it before the oral based on the current winds aloft.
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Old December 12th, 2007, 08:04   #5
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edit: I accidentally put this here, it was meant for the CFI section.
Fixed it.

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IDK about GS but do you know the formula for TAS?
Do you? Since pivotal altitude is based on GS, your formula must include a conversion from TAS to GS, right?
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Default Re: Pivotal Altitude

You can make a chart, using 5 knot increments. Should take less than a minute in Excel.
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You can make a chart, using 5 knot increments. Should take less than a minute in Excel.
I did that and put it in my little maneuvers book, actually makes it easier for students to grasp the concept.
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Old December 12th, 2007, 15:08   #9
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Default Re: Pivotal Altitude

There is the computational method, which applies to either KTS or MPH.

Or you can just pick a starting altitude, say 1000' and start from there. Based on the wind speed (which affects your groundspeed) PA will vary depending on your location in the manuever.
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Fixed it.

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You can make a chart, using 5 knot increments. Should take less than a minute in Excel.
This is what I'll do it's a real good idea and yes it is for the commercial checkride. Thanks for all the replies everyone!!

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Old December 14th, 2007, 19:42   #11
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Default Re: Pivotal Altitude

In Knots it's GS^2 / 11.3
MPH GS^2/15

ex 110 knots would be 1070
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