50 foot obstacle requirement

braidkid · September 23rd, 2003, 05:56

I'm getting a guy ready for his checkride and in looking through the private pilot PTS I can't find anything about a landing with a 50 foot obstacle requirement. I remember training for this requirement myself but now I can't find it anywhere in the PTS. Can someone tell me where this requirement came from or if it is required on the private pilot checkride?

MidlifeFlyer · September 23rd, 2003, 08:24

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I'm getting a guy ready for his checkride and in looking through the private pilot PTS I can't find anything about a landing with a 50 foot obstacle requirement. I remember training for this requirement myself but now I can't find it anywhere in the PTS. Can someone tell me where this requirement came from or if it is required on the private pilot checkride?

[/ QUOTE ]There =used to= be a requirement for a 50' obstacle in the private PTS. It was removed a few years ago. I suspect the reason was that despite FAA directives in favor of stabilized approaches, some CFIs were still teaching "chop and drop".

I still teach the short field approach as a steeper descent approach (which is what you are going to get anyway with full flaps and 60 KTS in a C172), which ends up clearing a measly 50' obstacle anyway.

braidkid · September 23rd, 2003, 08:26

Thanks a lot!!! I knew I trained for the maneuver and it threw me when I couldnt find it as a requirement in the private PTS. Thanks again for the clarification.

Jason · September 23rd, 2003, 11:50

I can't believe they took it out of the PTS!! I'm glad to see that CFI's are still teaching it though. I don't know about about you guys but I've been to alot of small airports with short runways and obstructions at the end.

Jason

September 23rd, 2003, 05:56	#1
braidkid Senior Member Join Date: Aug 2002 Location: Seattle, WA Posts: 556	50 foot obstacle requirement I'm getting a guy ready for his checkride and in looking through the private pilot PTS I can't find anything about a landing with a 50 foot obstacle requirement. I remember training for this requirement myself but now I can't find it anywhere in the PTS. Can someone tell me where this requirement came from or if it is required on the private pilot checkride?

September 23rd, 2003, 08:24	#2
MidlifeFlyer Old Skool Join Date: May 2003 Location: Denver Colorado Posts: 2,952	Re: 50 foot obstacle requirement [ QUOTE ] I'm getting a guy ready for his checkride and in looking through the private pilot PTS I can't find anything about a landing with a 50 foot obstacle requirement. I remember training for this requirement myself but now I can't find it anywhere in the PTS. Can someone tell me where this requirement came from or if it is required on the private pilot checkride? [/ QUOTE ]There =used to= be a requirement for a 50' obstacle in the private PTS. It was removed a few years ago. I suspect the reason was that despite FAA directives in favor of stabilized approaches, some CFIs were still teaching "chop and drop". I still teach the short field approach as a steeper descent approach (which is what you are going to get anyway with full flaps and 60 KTS in a C172), which ends up clearing a measly 50' obstacle anyway.

September 23rd, 2003, 08:26	#3
braidkid Senior Member Join Date: Aug 2002 Location: Seattle, WA Posts: 556	Re: 50 foot obstacle requirement Thanks a lot!!! I knew I trained for the maneuver and it threw me when I couldnt find it as a requirement in the private PTS. Thanks again for the clarification.

September 23rd, 2003, 11:50	#4
Jason Senior Member Join Date: Sep 2000 Location: Cincinnati, OH Posts: 977	Re: 50 foot obstacle requirement I can't believe they took it out of the PTS!! I'm glad to see that CFI's are still teaching it though. I don't know about about you guys but I've been to alot of small airports with short runways and obstructions at the end. Jason

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