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Old July 9th, 2007, 20:07   #1
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Default When does an instrument approach begin????

I remember reading that the instrument approach begins at the FAF, and you must proceed to that point for it to count as such.

Am I correct??
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I am 99.9% sure that the instrument approach begins at the IAP. If you are being vectored to final then I would say that the approach begins once established on the published segment of the approach.
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I'd say by pure definition, it begins at the IAF. If you define the segments of an approach, it begins at the IAF. Feeder routes are not technically a segment.

As for being vectored, I'd also assume once "established" on a published segment.

I'll try to find some references.
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I am 99.9% sure that the instrument approach begins at the IAP. If you are being vectored to final then I would say that the approach begins once established on the published segment of the approach.


Approaches begin at an IAP, unless being vectored ONTO the final approach course.
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Approaches begin at an IAP, unless being vectored ONTO the final approach course.
We were being vectored to the approach course just outside the FAF.
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You won't be vectored onto final AFTER the FAF.
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You won't be vectored onto final AFTER the FAF.
Yeah.....I know that.
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You won't be vectored onto final AFTER the FAF.
Or, if it appears you are being vectored INSIDE the FAF. . .I'd be pretty darn prompt about requesting another set up - or tell them you'll fly the full approach from an IAF if the vectors are going to be that bad.

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