Part 141 - CFI after 190 hours

[CLEVERK1]

Hello

I need some advice regarding the 190 hours under FAR Part 141.
How do I calculate the hours?
I've heard that I can do the checkride only after 190 hours if I've done the PPL and IFR after 35 hours (the FAR minimum) each. E.g.:
35 HOURS PPL
35 HOURS IFR
and regarding to my flight school I then need 120 HOURS CPL, so it ends up at 190hours.

But now I've needed more than 35 hours for my PPL and for my IFR:
50 HOURS PPL
50 HOURS IFR

According to my flight school I still need to add the 120 hours commercial.
Then taking the 120 HOURS CPL would mean that I can take the checkride at 220HOURS (earliest) and not at 190HOURS.

Can anybody confirm that this is right? Every flightschool is writing about 190 hours ... but how many people do its PPL and IFR checkride after 35 hours?

I looked it up in the FAR and called AOPA but couldn't get a total conclusion.
Can someone help me out? I've already posted this question under checkride central.. hope nobody mind.

Thanks in advance
Bryan

[mojo6911]

Part 141 Commercial is 120 hours from start to finish, regardless of your total time before you start. Hardly anyone gets the private license in 40 hours, much less 35. Most people should get the instrument within 35-40 hours.

Since you are sitting at 100 hours already, you might as well go 61 for your commercial. It will be more fun and cheaper.

[Pilot2087]

I would do it Part 61 also.

Part 141 IMO is to regulated

I had all my ratings completed (CFI, CFII, MEI) under 230 hours flight time doing it part 61 :P

[CLEVERK1]

Hi

Thanks for your fast answers.
So it doesn't make any sense to fly some hours after you got your PPL...if you want to have the CPL after 190 hours. I did some cross country flying after my PPL...so I now have about 130 hours total time. Adding the 120 hours commercial brings me to 250 hours. So it doesn't make any difference for me now if Part 61 or Part 141?

Thanks
Bryan

[mojo6911]

Originally Posted by CLEVERK1

Hi

Thanks for your fast answers.
So it doesn't make any sense to fly some hours after you got your PPL...if you want to have the CPL after 190 hours. I did some cross country flying after my PPL...so I now have about 130 hours total time. Adding the 120 hours commercial brings me to 250 hours. So it doesn't make any difference for me now if Part 61 or Part 141?

Thanks
Bryan

141 won't count any of the time after your PPL, unless you were enrolled in the course before hand. Also, 141 has a lot more dual instruction. I recommend 61.

The guy who posted above you must be mistaken. There is no way he got his Commercial with less than 250 under part 61.

[BuickCFI]

Originally Posted by mojo6911

141 won't count any of the time after your PPL, unless you were enrolled in the course before hand. Also, 141 has a lot more dual instruction. I recommend 61.

The guy who posted above you must be mistaken. There is no way he got his Commercial with less than 250 under part 61.

i agree, he would have had to complete some 141 course to get a singoff to do a part 61 checkride with less hours, still 230 for everything seems awfully low

[Berkut]

Originally Posted by mojo6911

The guy who posted above you must be mistaken. There is no way he got his Commercial with less than 250 under part 61.

He probably wasn't counting sim time. You only need 200 in an actual aircraft, if I remember correctly.

[Blackhawk]

Originally Posted by CLEVERK1

Hello

I need some advice regarding the 190 hours under FAR Part 141.
How do I calculate the hours?
I've heard that I can do the checkride only after 190 hours if I've done the PPL and IFR after 35 hours (the FAR minimum) each. E.g.:
35 HOURS PPL
35 HOURS IFR
and regarding to my flight school I then need 120 HOURS CPL, so it ends up at 190hours.

But now I've needed more than 35 hours for my PPL and for my IFR:
50 HOURS PPL
50 HOURS IFR

According to my flight school I still need to add the 120 hours commercial.
Then taking the 120 HOURS CPL would mean that I can take the checkride at 220HOURS (earliest) and not at 190HOURS.

Can anybody confirm that this is right? Every flightschool is writing about 190 hours ... but how many people do its PPL and IFR checkride after 35 hours?

I looked it up in the FAR and called AOPA but couldn't get a total conclusion.
Can someone help me out? I've already posted this question under checkride central.. hope nobody mind.

Thanks in advance
Bryan

How many hours and what ratings do you currently have? I can not really tell from your post- it's kind of confusing.
If you did not start out under 141, it normally makes sense to continue 61 except for the instrument rating. 141 you do not need the 50 hours cross country PIC for the instrument rating; yeah, part 61 only requires 15 hours of instrument training, but most take far more than this.

[Pilot2087]

Originally Posted by mojo6911

141 won't count any of the time after your PPL, unless you were enrolled in the course before hand. Also, 141 has a lot more dual instruction. I recommend 61.

The guy who posted above you must be mistaken. There is no way he got his Commercial with less than 250 under part 61.

Actually there is a way...
I got my commercial around 210 hours of flight time, and everything was Part 61.

...simulaters