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Old January 12th, 2007, 18:30   #1
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Default What Manuevers did you do?

Ive got my CFI ride coming up soon and was wondering what all of the current CFI's experience was like on the flying portion on the Checkride.

Ive been studying for the oral portion and feel ok, from what I have read alot can depend simply on who you do your checkride with. I had a friend from ATP do his intital with a DE, and said it really wasnt much tougher than his commercial. Another said it was like pulling teeth, and I have always cnosidered this guy very knowledgeable-the other not so much.

What I havent heard about is what manuevers you all did on the checkride. I have heard some instructors say they covered just about everything and others say the inspector did the bare minimums. Any advice is great!
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Old January 12th, 2007, 20:04   #2
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I did my MEI first but I did stalls, steep turns, slow flight, drag demo, Vmc demo, single engine maneuvering, hood work, S-turns, emergency descent, and turns around a point.

Landing-wise, I did single engine landings, engine failure on the takeoff roll, and short field landing and takeoffs.

Total flight was 2.8
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Old January 12th, 2007, 20:12   #3
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Check the Checkride Central portion of the forums... tons of good info there. Here's a link to my CFI initial report.

http://forums.jetcareers.com/checkride-central/25353-initial-cfi-detailed-report.html
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Old January 12th, 2007, 23:05   #4
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My CFI checkride was almost exactly like my commercial ride, just from the right seat, and talking/teaching the entire ride. 1.2 hours on the hobbs.
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My CFI checkride was almost exactly like my commercial ride, just from the right seat, and talking/teaching the entire ride. 1.2 hours on the hobbs.
1.2 on the hobbs...thats it!!! This couldnt have been with a FAA guy at the FSDO. If it was I'm pissed, if it wasent I'm pissed
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Old January 13th, 2007, 06:14   #6
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For my CFI ride I had to teach basic instrument flight to him in the air and power off stalls (while he was flying). Then I had to demo chandelles and steep turns. Then uncontrolled airport arrival/landings after which he did some landings with me talking him through. Total time was 2.0 if I remember correctly.
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1.2 on the hobbs...thats it!!! This couldnt have been with a FAA guy at the FSDO. If it was I'm pissed, if it wasent I'm pissed
3 hour oral, and yes, I lied, I went back to my logbook and found it was 1.3 hobbs with the FAA. Did the oral on one day, the flying the next, as there were t-storms in the area on day 1.
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Old January 13th, 2007, 17:32   #8
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3 hour oral, and yes, I lied, I went back to my logbook and found it was 1.3 hobbs with the FAA. Did the oral on one day, the flying the next, as there were t-storms in the area on day 1.
You are very lucky...that or I was really unlucky (prob both)

I just checked my book and it was 2.7 (2.0 arrow, .7 skyhawk)

One day for oral, one day for the 2.0 in arrow, one day to fly over in arrow to hopefully finish up but gear jammed, one day to finish up in skyhawk. Total= 3 days with FAA... I never got a pink slip but plenty of "letters of discontinuance" It was a F'n nightmare
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Old January 13th, 2007, 18:32   #9
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It's interesting to see the differences in flight time length of people taking CFI rides with the FAA vs DPE. My CFI ride was with a DPE and it was a short ride as well. From what I experienced regarding the FAA's problem with DPE's in the Iowa area, I can't imagine they would be happy with these short CFI checkrides. The only record of flight time exists with the DPE and applicant, so I wouldn't be surprised if the FAA starts a big crackdown on this type of thing if and when they find out.

To answer the original question, you would probably be better served getting the gouge locally. Each examiner is different and usually has his/her own hangup on maneuvers. My examiner loves to see slips. I think he wants to marry slips. He tested me thoroughly on them for my Commercial and CFI.
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Old January 15th, 2007, 11:15   #10
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what manuevers you all did on the checkride.
What we all did, successfully, is dance around the examiner's questions with the same confidence, smoothness, and air of 'knowing' that you will have to 'show' to your potential student.

Him: "What makes it fly?"
You: "Air"

Him: "Why is there air?"
You: "Ahh, very good question, Johnny. Let me show you what it says in the aerodynamics section of the Airplane Flying Handbook."
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It's interesting to see the differences in flight time length of people taking CFI rides with the FAA vs DPE.
And even within those two groups if you look at the posts here. That's the problem with these threads. Beyond the bare bones of the PTS, there is such a variety of examiners and candidates that it's hard to say what's "typical."
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Old January 15th, 2007, 12:25   #12
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I had to demonstrate a spin, teach s-turns, emergency proceedures, short and soft field landings. Except for the spin, it was pretty much like the commercial ride.

I really didn't expect the spin because I'd never heard of an examiner asking for one, but I was ready because I had just completed three hours of spin training in the Decathelon.
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Decathalon..... Sweeeeeeeeeet.......
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Old January 18th, 2007, 14:46   #14
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PTS is the place to look. My Oral was 4 hours and 2.6 flight. Pretty much did all the manuevers in the MEI PTS.
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Old January 18th, 2007, 21:18   #15
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Apples and Oranges right ?

I passed the oral today with the Inspector, I thought it went very well. Unfortunately the flight will have to be done when we get some better weather down here in South TX, he issued a discontinuance until I call to reschedule with some clear skies and sunshine. Looks like we are gonna have crud for the next week though. Might be for the best, I havent been able to practice the manuevers in a week or more-and Id like to get in a couple flights before I try the flying portion - 1/2 WAY THERE!
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