61.129(3)(iv)

[JEP]

quick question on:

(iv) One cross-country flight of at least 2 hours in a single-engine airplane in night VFR conditions, consisting of a total straight-line distance of more than 100 nautical miles from the original point of departure; and

Does this have to be a round trip? Just reading it, I'd say no. I briefly tried to find a definition of X/C but could not.

...just some early evening thougts as I am watching my mainframes crunch data..... 8 hours to go....

[PanJet]

Originally Posted by JEP

Does this have to be a round trip? Just reading it, I'd say no. I briefly tried to find a definition of X/C but could not.

No it does not have to be round trip. X/C is just a flight that involves a landing at an airport other than the point of departure. Most likely it will be round trip though because it's pretty hard to make two hours out of just 100 miles. You'd probably need at least 150 to 200 miles (depending on the plane) straight line to make 2 hours.

[nosehair]

Originally Posted by JEP

I briefly tried to find a definition of X/C but could not.

FAR 61.1(3)

[flyguy]

A good way to meet this requirement is to do both the day 2-hr XC and the night 2-hr XC in one flight. Wait until afternoon, pick an airport with a good restaraunt that is at least 100 nm & 2 hours away, get some dinner, then fly back at night. Knocks out both the flights at once. Be sure to log them seperately though.

[meritflyer]

Originally Posted by flyguy

A good way to meet this requirement is to do both the day 2-hr XC and the night 2-hr XC in one flight. Wait until afternoon, pick an airport with a good restaraunt that is at least 100 nm & 2 hours away, get some dinner, then fly back at night. Knocks out both the flights at once. Be sure to log them seperately though.

[Dazzler]

Originally Posted by flyguy

A good way to meet this requirement is to do both the day 2-hr XC and the night 2-hr XC in one flight. Wait until afternoon, pick an airport with a good restaraunt that is at least 100 nm & 2 hours away, get some dinner, then fly back at night. Knocks out both the flights at once. Be sure to log them seperately though.

Yep - for you JEP I would recommend flying up to Duluth during the day, getting dinner, and flying back to Minneapolis at night.

[subpilot]

also, you don't have to fly in a straight line for 2 hours. just make sure you go 100nm away and then do landings/manuevers/emergencies/etc to eat up the rest of the time.

[JEP]

Originally Posted by Dazzler

Yep - for you JEP I would recommend flying up to Duluth during the day, getting dinner, and flying back to Minneapolis at night.

Dinner? GrandMa's????? Hey, You already got one flight out of me. When would you like to go at night? GEP-RZN-KDLH....

[flyguy]

Originally Posted by subpilot

also, you don't have to fly in a straight line for 2 hours. just make sure you go 100nm away and then do landings/manuevers/emergencies/etc to eat up the rest of the time.

Yeah, I've done that too. Just don't get to the destination too quicky. A couple weeks ago I took a student from Castle to Porterville (just over 100 nm) and we had about a 40 knot tailwind, and got there in about 30 minutes. You can only practice maneuvers and touch & go's for so long before you get tremendously bored. The student I was with was highly proficient in all maneuvers and really didn't need the practice, and after running through every maneuver we could come up with, we were both watching the clock in agony waiting for when we could land. A slightly longer flight would have probably been more enjoyable for both of us. In fact the flight back was more enjoyable since it took longer with a 40 knot headwind.

[Dazzler]

Originally Posted by JEP

Dinner? GrandMa's????? Hey, You already got one flight out of me. When would you like to go at night? GEP-RZN-KDLH....

That's true, we already did the Duluth thing didn't we?
We should choose somewhere else then.
I hear Waterloo, Iowa is nice this time of year...

[JEP]

Originally Posted by Dazzler

That's true, we already did the Duluth thing didn't we?
We should choose somewhere else then.
I hear Waterloo, Iowa is nice this time of year...

Hey, do you have copyrights on the photo in your avatar? I hear the photog is a pretty good stick.

Waterloo......Straight south down 35. Is there a restaurant on the field.?

[jrh]

Originally Posted by JEP

Waterloo......Straight south down 35. Is there a restaurant on the field.?

Yes, there is, although I haven't eaten there in several years.

Nice airport...I was just flying there today!

[Dazzler]

Originally Posted by JEP

Hey, do you have copyrights on the photo in your avatar? I hear the photog is a pretty good stick.

Waterloo......Straight south down 35. Is there a restaurant on the field.?

Not that I know of, but I do have a friend down there (also a pilot) who we can hook up with and go to "The Brown Bottle" (excellent restaurant!)