BFR and medicals

cldbase · November 12th, 2005, 23:19

Can you sign someone off on a BFR if they don't have a current medical?

mtsu_av8er · November 12th, 2005, 23:46

You certainly may!

Pilot997 · November 13th, 2005, 09:02

Yes, I think it depends on if you are PIC for the flight portion though. If they are not within their 24 months, I think that makes you a required flight crewmember, as they are not allowed to fly solo. So you would need a valid 3rd class medical, right?

bob loblaw · November 13th, 2005, 20:54

If you are a flight instructor who doesn't hold a medical, you can give a BFR to a pilot as long as his medical and previous BFR hasn't expired.

SteveC · November 13th, 2005, 23:32

Quote:

Originally Posted by bob loblaw

If you are a flight instructor who doesn't hold a medical, you can give a BFR to a pilot as long as his medical and previous BFR hasn't expired.

I thought that he was asking "if the BFR candidate does not have a medical...", rather than the instructor???

Pilot997 · November 14th, 2005, 00:39

Quote:

Originally Posted by SteveC

I thought that he was asking "if the BFR candidate does not have a medical...", rather than the instructor???

Wow, yep. I didn't read the question correctly. Sorry about that.

aloft · November 14th, 2005, 05:29

Does this change the answer?

bob loblaw · November 14th, 2005, 07:52

Good catch, I also read the question inncorrectly with my apologies. In this question the pilot who needs a BFR has an expired medical.

The instructor must have a medical because you can only act as PIC if you have a valid medical. Since neither party has a valid medical, neither can be PIC.

Pilot997 · November 14th, 2005, 08:35

I'm pretty sure you can still do it, because you as the flight instructor would just need to be acting as PIC. You can still give them a BFR. It doesn't make mention that a medical is required, or that the pilot taking it needs to be PIC. Technically, the person who is receiving the BFR isn't really exercising the privlidges of his/her certificate. They are receiving dual given from you, the legal PIC.

bob loblaw · November 14th, 2005, 14:21

This is an excellent question. I am going to look up the answer myself from the FARs. Can a flight instructor who doesn't hold a valid medical give a BFR to a pilot who is still BFR current, but doesn't have a valid medical?

The tangled web we weave.

mtsu_av8er · November 14th, 2005, 23:49

Quote:

Originally Posted by bob loblaw

This is an excellent question. I am going to look up the answer myself from the FARs. Can a flight instructor who doesn't hold a valid medical give a BFR to a pilot who is still BFR current, but doesn't have a valid medical?

I hope you're joking, Bob!!

If not, I'd say heck no! No PIC!!

But, I think you're joking . . .

November 12th, 2005, 23:19	#1
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November 13th, 2005, 09:02	#3
Pilot997 Newbie Join Date: Nov 2005 Posts: 7	Yes, I think it depends on if you are PIC for the flight portion though. If they are not within their 24 months, I think that makes you a required flight crewmember, as they are not allowed to fly solo. So you would need a valid 3rd class medical, right?

November 13th, 2005, 20:54	#4
bob loblaw Banned Join Date: Oct 2005 Posts: 630	If you are a flight instructor who doesn't hold a medical, you can give a BFR to a pilot as long as his medical and previous BFR hasn't expired.

November 14th, 2005, 07:52	#8
bob loblaw Banned Join Date: Oct 2005 Posts: 630	Good catch, I also read the question inncorrectly with my apologies. In this question the pilot who needs a BFR has an expired medical. The instructor must have a medical because you can only act as PIC if you have a valid medical. Since neither party has a valid medical, neither can be PIC.

November 14th, 2005, 08:35	#9
Pilot997 Newbie Join Date: Nov 2005 Posts: 7	I'm pretty sure you can still do it, because you as the flight instructor would just need to be acting as PIC. You can still give them a BFR. It doesn't make mention that a medical is required, or that the pilot taking it needs to be PIC. Technically, the person who is receiving the BFR isn't really exercising the privlidges of his/her certificate. They are receiving dual given from you, the legal PIC.

November 14th, 2005, 14:21	#10
bob loblaw Banned Join Date: Oct 2005 Posts: 630	This is an excellent question. I am going to look up the answer myself from the FARs. Can a flight instructor who doesn't hold a valid medical give a BFR to a pilot who is still BFR current, but doesn't have a valid medical? The tangled web we weave.