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| Old Skool Join Date: Jan 2002 Location: Coloradan in Orange County, CA
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Just wondering what everyone's favorite maneuver is to teach private pilots? For me it's a toss up between steep turns and emergency descents. Was teaching emergency descents this morning and looked over at my student and he seemed to be having a blast. I love the feeling of dropping down at 1500fpm with the windscreen filled with the ground below and then returning to cruise. They always seem to think it is pretty fun, sorta like a roller coaster if you make enough turns. Any one else? |
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| Old Skool Join Date: Dec 2002 Location: Utopia
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Short Field Landings!
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| | #3 |
| Old Skool Join Date: Jan 2002 Location: Coloradan in Orange County, CA
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what, no story about making that "brick one" landing and stopping before the "fatties"?
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| Senior Member Join Date: Jul 2003 Location: Peeking in your window
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I'm not a CFI, but I had a blast with power off 180's. I remember the first one, tower told us to turn base NOW as a KC135 was going to make us a hood ornament if we didn't, the instructer says "oops, your engine just quit...now make the runway." I though it was the coolest thing, a mixture of concentration and pucker factor (pretending the engine really was lost).
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It wasn't a 'manuever' of sorts, but I really enjoyed teaching instrument students. Probably the single most important skill (sit. awareness and communication) applicable to what I do today.
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| | #6 |
| Old Skool Join Date: Dec 2002 Location: Utopia
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[ QUOTE ] It wasn't a 'manuever' of sorts, but I really enjoyed teaching instrument students. Probably the single most important skill (sit. awareness and communication) applicable to what I do today. [/ QUOTE ] I have more fun with instrument training than anything else. My peers seem to think I'm crazy, but then again, what's new? |
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| Senior Member |
spin recovery
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| Old Skool Join Date: Oct 2000 Location: El Forko Grande
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Sharkstooth
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| Old Skool Join Date: Apr 2005 Location: USA
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Anything that the students is able to catch on to quickly. It makes me feel like I'm a good teacher, no matter how bad I might have botched the demo. Conversely, anything that the student has a hard time with is my least favorite. Nothing is more frustrating than explaining something ten different ways, giving a couple of decent demos, and the student still not even coming close. Oh yeah, and simulated engine failures. I teach them to glide into a field without flaps or forward slips. I think it's fun because taking away slips and flaps forces them to get very accurate at judging wind, groundspeed, and descent rates. |
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| Old Skool Join Date: May 2003 Location: Denver Colorado
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[ QUOTE ] Anything that the students is able to catch on to quickly. [/ QUOTE ]What a terrific answer. My favorites are favorites because of what you said. Also because they tend to give the student a little different perspective and the student seems to have so much fun with them. Soft-field landings. I teach them as "finesse landings." The demo includes a touch and go during which the nosewheel never touches the runway, just to show how much finesse you can do, not for the student to recreate. But every student insists on doing it. Landing with the ASI covered. Pitch and Power really works! Falling leaf stalls. Teaches coordination and is just fun to do. |
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| Junior Member Join Date: Sep 2004 Location: Winchester, VA (OKV)
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[ QUOTE ] Soft-field landings. I teach them as "finesse landings." The demo includes a touch and go during which the nosewheel never touches the runway, just to show how much finesse you can do [/ QUOTE ] This is my test of when a student has become "Master of their Domain". Keeping the nosewheel off the ground through the changing configuration during a touch and go is proof positive they have mastered control of the plane. |
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I like teaching instrument stuff. As far as VFR maneuvers, I like teaching chandells.
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| Administrator Join Date: Feb 2003 Location: Pinal Airpark
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Like to get a guy through his Private to where he has a good baseline knowlege to build on what flying is all about. From there, if they desire, like to get about 2-3 hours of upset training for them. Have a friend of dad's that owns a T-28. Always interesting to take a new PPL I worked with out for a flight following some ground school on the aircraft, and pre-briefing maneuvers; put him in the front seat and teach some aerobatic work, not so much for the fun of it, but moreso as confidence maneuvers for learning a feel for the aircraft in non-standard flight regimes,;something they can't, and obviously shouldn't, perform in their standard aircraft. Start with the basic chandelle/lazy 8, which will help for Commercial maneuvers, and on to the loop, cuban-8, and cloverleaf, and introduce spin recover if they haven't had it already (I find some studs receive it, some don't). It's one of those things that's, of course, not required to be a good pilot; but surely doesn't hurt in order to become a better and more confident pilot , in a different way, if so desired. |
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[ QUOTE ] I'm not a CFI, but I had a blast with power off 180's. [/ QUOTE ] Man, I thought I was the only masochist that actually liked doing those. |
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| Junior Member Join Date: Feb 2005 Location: ORF
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Circle to land, without a doubt
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| Junior Member Join Date: May 2003 Location: MO
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I loved to teach instrument flying. As far as VFR maneuvers, I always enjoyed teaching lazy eights and soft field landings (I always made sure my students had a couple of takeoffs and landings on grass before they took their checkride). Chris |
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| Old Skool Join Date: Nov 2004 Location: Arlington TX
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I know everytime I teach turns around a point or any ground reference maneuver I want to jump out of the airplane.
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| Old Skool Join Date: Aug 2003 Location: Frigid NWA Hub
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Single engine maneuvering is enjoyable because when I talk with a student about it on the ground they are usually apprehensive about it. Then we shut one down in the air and they think its the coolest thing.
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| Old Skool Join Date: Aug 2004 Location: CFI / CFII in PA
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love the avitar ryanmickg
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| Old Skool Join Date: Nov 2004 Location: Arlington TX
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[ QUOTE ] love the avitar ryanmickg [/ QUOTE ] Thanks it still makes me laugh. |
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| Junior Member Join Date: Apr 2001 Location: MN
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Well, i'm not a CFI but when i finally get there I can't wait to teach IFR students for the first time in actual. I'll never forget what a thrill that was. I went up with a friend in actual who just got his instrument. All of his training was in VFR. Well needless to say, he was not prepared for that. It was only about a 30 mile leg with vectors to an ILS. As soon as we went IMC, he really lost it. I don't know if he would have made it alone. We finally got down after a hold at the outer marker and a few bad localizer deviations. I had a blast. How far do you guys let students go before giving corrections in actual?
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| | #22 |
| Administrator Join Date: Feb 2003 Location: Pinal Airpark
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[ QUOTE ] How far do you guys let students go before giving corrections in actual? [/ QUOTE ] It all depends on the situation. |
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| | #23 |
| Senior Member Join Date: Dec 2001 Location: Redding, CA
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[ QUOTE ] [ QUOTE ] It wasn't a 'manuever' of sorts, but I really enjoyed teaching instrument students. Probably the single most important skill (sit. awareness and communication) applicable to what I do today. [/ QUOTE ] I have more fun with instrument training than anything else. My peers seem to think I'm crazy, but then again, what's new? [/ QUOTE ] I agree with the above. Taking a private pilot off the ground in the dark rain, through the ever lightening grey onto the top of some nice cumulus clouds is extremely cool. I love it as much as them, even though its getting old hat to me. I have to admit, I might like it even more... cuz their all nervous. I take digital pics for them to remember. |
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| | #24 |
| Senior Member Join Date: Dec 2001 Location: Redding, CA
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[ QUOTE ] [ QUOTE ] How far do you guys let students go before giving corrections in actual? [/ QUOTE ] It all depends on the situation. [/ QUOTE ] Depends Bryan.. when I was new and nervous in Actual.. my rope was short. After a winter of 135 freight... I will let almost anything happen. The controllers recognize sometimes my voice and, well... if things are mellow with ATC.. god help my poor student. (I was once with a IFR student and he went the wrong way missed... the controller allowed it since we had earlier established who was in the airplane, and was safe in terms of traffic/radar/terrain.. it was magical and a mistake my student NEVER forgot!!!) |
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| | #25 |
| Old Skool Join Date: Apr 2002 Location: Nomadic...World Wide Boobie Bungalow Bouncer
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I loved the Multi stuff. You got to do IFR stuff, single eng stuff, and can all that lazy 8 BS.
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