Practical Test Standards

GaTechKid · November 26th, 2004, 18:42

How can a CFI ensure that he/she is using the current PTS? It was stated to reference FAA Part 11, but I'm having trouble finding a proper answer through all this "final rule, direct final rule, notice of proposed rulemaking mumbo jumbo."

Lil' help?

pscraig · November 26th, 2004, 22:52

All of the PTS are available at av-info.faa.gov, in their most current versions.

JayAre · November 27th, 2004, 15:09

I second that website. I was asked that exact question on my inital CFI "How can you as a CFI have the most up to date and currant PTS" even the DE used it to check up on things.

MidlifeFlyer · November 27th, 2004, 17:13

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How can a CFI ensure that he/she is using the current PTS? It was stated to reference FAA Part 11, but I'm having trouble finding a proper answer through all this "final rule, direct final rule, notice of proposed rulemaking mumbo jumbo."

[/ QUOTE ]Sure. This might help: That "final rule, direct final rule, notice of proposed rulemaking' mumbo jumbo'"has nothing whatsoever to do with the way the PTS is written or changed.

The FAA web site others mentioned always has the most current version.

BTW, we slowly become familiar with a bunch of Parts of the FAR. As student pilots, we focus on Parts 61 and 91, for the commercial , we start looking at Pars 119, 135 and 121. Etc. But there are many other Parts that some of us never look at or even hear about. Part 11 contains the regulations that describe how the FAA goes through the rulemaking process to create and change its own regulations.

Perhaps the most (only?) interesting thing about FAR 11 is that it's written in a question-and-answer "plain English" rather than standard "regulese." (The Sport Pilot rules are also written this way) So, for example, FAR 11.21 says

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§ 11.21 What are the most common kinds of rulemaking actions for which FAA follows the Administrative Procedure Act?

FAA follows the Administrative Procedure Act (APA) procedures for these common types of rules:
(a) Rules found in the Code of Federal Regulations;
(b) Airworthiness directives issued under part 39 of this chapter; and
(c) Airspace Designations issued under various parts of this chapter.
==============================

November 26th, 2004, 18:42	#1
GaTechKid Old Skool Join Date: Aug 2003 Location: Frigid NWA Hub Posts: 1,883	Practical Test Standards How can a CFI ensure that he/she is using the current PTS? It was stated to reference FAA Part 11, but I'm having trouble finding a proper answer through all this "final rule, direct final rule, notice of proposed rulemaking mumbo jumbo." Lil' help?

November 26th, 2004, 22:52	#2
pscraig Senior Member Join Date: Jul 2001 Location: Houston, TX Posts: 1,021	Re: Practical Test Standards All of the PTS are available at av-info.faa.gov, in their most current versions.

November 27th, 2004, 15:09	#3
JayAre Senior Member Join Date: Apr 2001 Location: Multiple Posts: 1,002	Re: Practical Test Standards I second that website. I was asked that exact question on my inital CFI "How can you as a CFI have the most up to date and currant PTS" even the DE used it to check up on things.

November 27th, 2004, 17:13	#4
MidlifeFlyer Old Skool Join Date: May 2003 Location: Denver Colorado Posts: 2,952	Re: Practical Test Standards [ QUOTE ] How can a CFI ensure that he/she is using the current PTS? It was stated to reference FAA Part 11, but I'm having trouble finding a proper answer through all this "final rule, direct final rule, notice of proposed rulemaking mumbo jumbo." [/ QUOTE ]Sure. This might help: That "final rule, direct final rule, notice of proposed rulemaking' mumbo jumbo'"has nothing whatsoever to do with the way the PTS is written or changed. The FAA web site others mentioned always has the most current version. BTW, we slowly become familiar with a bunch of Parts of the FAR. As student pilots, we focus on Parts 61 and 91, for the commercial , we start looking at Pars 119, 135 and 121. Etc. But there are many other Parts that some of us never look at or even hear about. Part 11 contains the regulations that describe how the FAA goes through the rulemaking process to create and change its own regulations. Perhaps the most (only?) interesting thing about FAR 11 is that it's written in a question-and-answer "plain English" rather than standard "regulese." (The Sport Pilot rules are also written this way) So, for example, FAR 11.21 says ============================== § 11.21 What are the most common kinds of rulemaking actions for which FAA follows the Administrative Procedure Act? FAA follows the Administrative Procedure Act (APA) procedures for these common types of rules: (a) Rules found in the Code of Federal Regulations; (b) Airworthiness directives issued under part 39 of this chapter; and (c) Airspace Designations issued under various parts of this chapter. ==============================

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