Why is it harder to move out of a level 12 facility?

jkeesee · April 22nd, 2008, 12:45

Why is it harder to move out of a level 12 facility????????

Is a level 12 the highest???????

ATLTRACON · April 22nd, 2008, 13:01

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Originally Posted by jkeesee

Why is it harder to move out of a level 12 facility Money, staffing and the like. When you are at a level 12 and want to go to a 9 or 10 you are going to take a large pay cut. According to some friends of mine, if you are in the "old" IE good pay band and want to move to a lower (sometimes even higher) facility, you are going under the "new" IE crappy pay band. Also the larger facilities have invested a HUGE amount of cash to train you how to work there. Somewhere in the vicinity of 1 to 1.5 million and they don't want to see that go to waste????????

Is a level 12 the highest??????? Actually ATL TRACON has been working what the FFA categorizes as a level 13 for almost 6+ years, 'course they won't pay us for it

. Within the last year or so we have actually been working the equivalent of a level 14 with the staffing of a 10.

jkeesee · April 22nd, 2008, 13:09

I visited the ATL TRACON in March. The supervisor a former ATCS gave me some very good info.

I heard they were going back to the old pay-band. Maybe it is a rumor?

pilatus028 · April 22nd, 2008, 14:47

I would think it's going to be tough to train a new controller at that same facility unless they are of equal or close to the same levels. For example, Tampa Int'l for some unknown reason is hardest to get into in FL. If you want in, you have to find a trade with another controller who works there. It's a level 10 or 11 I think, but Miami is a 12. So if they were to lose a controller in Miami they just lost a very valuable resource, and to train a guy to the same standards would probably be time consuming and expensive, but more time consuming. This is what I would think..

pilatus028 · April 22nd, 2008, 14:48

And yes, 12 is the highest.

RollnDollars86 · April 22nd, 2008, 23:28

So will it be easier to transfer from the same level but to different location?

ATLTRACON · April 23rd, 2008, 04:30

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Originally Posted by jkeesee

I visited the ATL TRACON in March. The supervisor a former ATCS gave me some very good info. Well if a supervisor gave it to you it must be true

. 'Cause they are, according to them, the "higher skill set."

I heard they were going back to the old pay-band. Maybe it is a rumor (most definitely a rumor)?

surreal1221 · April 23rd, 2008, 04:56

Oh don't worry. . .I'm surprised it hasn't happened yet. . .but I recall reading the FAA was going to reorganize the level ratings for all facilities. Essentially bring ALL old Level 12(+) facilities down to the Level 9 or 10 level.

Just another "cost saving" measure from the great employer named the FAA.