ATSAT Scores - Page 2

Justin538 · March 18th, 2008, 11:00

You can't really study. If you know how to read a dial, (like your gas guage or speedometer) you'll do fine with that. If you can do simple rate/distance problems in your head, you'll be fine there. (a plane travelling at 320 knots goes how far in 15 minutes?......80miles) Analogies are tougher, but those involve reading the directions, you shouldn't have too much of a problem though, the instructions are very clear. The scan portion is easy, but it would be in your best interest to practice typing on the keypad on your keyboard. You have to pump out 2 digit numbers at a high rate of speed.

I already gave advice to the box factory portion in another thread. Basically, to do well with the questions, constantly tell yourself details about what's going on in your head. ie. constantly assess the situation, so you won't be surprised when the questions come.

The scenario part is like a video game, and you will have some separation errors or crash a few planes. Don't worry, I don't think that portion is weighted very heavily.

Basically, the best way to prepare is to read the instructions carefully, pay attention during the practice problems, and get a good nights sleep. You will do fine. Good luck!

SQuirell88 · March 18th, 2008, 16:40

AT-SAT score received today

86.8! Took 7 business days after taking the test in ATL.

kcarpentier · March 18th, 2008, 17:17

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Originally Posted by SQuirell88

AT-SAT score received today

86.8! Took 7 business days after taking the test in ATL.

Congrats, where'd ya apply for?

On_welfare · March 18th, 2008, 18:19

85.8

Better than a 69.9 i guess.....3 business days...

JKoffler44 · March 18th, 2008, 19:09

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Originally Posted by BadPassportPhoto

Well done! What did you study with before taking the test (if anything)? I ask because I'm taking my test next Friday, 3/28.

Try these games that jeremyjustice posted:
http://www.jeremyjustice.com/games/
They are just like the real thing. Great practice!

SQuirell88 · March 19th, 2008, 09:11

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Originally Posted by kcarpentier

Congrats, where'd ya apply for?

I applied for the state of South Carolina back in August 2007 and then in February 2008 for the nation.

I spoke with the FAA yesterday and found out the test will apply to any jobs I applied for. From what I found out, the Eastern division met in Feburary (enroute met in early Feburary, and terminal met in late February) to pull applicants of which they are now going through PEPC during March (ie Jacksonville, Miami the last two weeks). The Eastern division is responsible for filling positions from Memphis going east and from Maine to Florida. I don't know about the centeral and western divisions of when they met etc.

It is estimated that the Eastern division will be meeting again in April to select more applicants for interviews/PEPC (of which I guess PEPC would occur in May based on last cycle)

From what I read on another post from someone who just went through PEPC in Miami on Monday, he was told it would take a month to hear back regarding a class date for OKC. I also found out they like to give a 30 day notice prior to having to attend class. So looks like 2 months after PEPC before actually heading to OKC.

kcarpentier · March 19th, 2008, 10:05

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Originally Posted by SQuirell88

It is estimated that the Eastern division will be meeting again in April to select more applicants for interviews/PEPC (of which I guess PEPC would occur in May based on last cycle)

where did you hear this juicy tidbit?

SQuirell88 · March 19th, 2008, 10:46

From a reliable source.

Justin538 · March 19th, 2008, 11:19

A friend of a friend told me that the next round (PEPC) would happen in late may or early june -ish. I think I might have a list of facilities or states that will be in demand of trainees coming too...

SQuirell88 · March 19th, 2008, 11:26

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Originally Posted by Justin538

A friend of a friend told me that the next round (PEPC) would happen in late may or early june -ish. I think I might have a list of facilities or states that will be in demand of trainees coming too...

That would be totally awesome if you could post that list dude.

Justin538 · March 19th, 2008, 11:56

No sir. I'm going to keep it for myself and watch you guys squirm as you wait.

Of course I'll post it, when/if I get it. Who knows. I'm just excited that I got my test scores back and that they're hiring. I'm young, I have no family, and I've been dreaming of this for years. I don't even really care where I go! I just want to hurry up and start this career.

302av · March 19th, 2008, 13:59

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Originally Posted by JKoffler44

Try these games that jeremyjustice posted:
http://www.jeremyjustice.com/games/
They are just like the real thing. Great practice!

hey besides that is there anything else that you could recomend? like for the angles, math etc

SoonerATC · March 19th, 2008, 14:47

For the angles, you could just use a compass to draw 30*, 60*, etc angles and then get familiar with those.

Math - not sure there, other than using an old algebra textbook. Sometimes those will have the "train departs XYZ at..." type problems.

302av · March 19th, 2008, 20:36

thanks hopefully the test isent too bad, i will brush up on those

302av · March 19th, 2008, 20:43

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Originally Posted by Justin538

You can't really study. If you know how to read a dial, (like your gas guage or speedometer) you'll do fine with that. If you can do simple rate/distance problems in your head, you'll be fine there. (a plane travelling at 320 knots goes how far in 15 minutes?......80miles) Analogies are tougher, but those involve reading the directions, you shouldn't have too much of a problem though, the instructions are very clear. The scan portion is easy, but it would be in your best interest to practice typing on the keypad on your keyboard. You have to pump out 2 digit numbers at a high rate of speed.

I already gave advice to the box factory portion in another thread. Basically, to do well with the questions, constantly tell yourself details about what's going on in your head. ie. constantly assess the situation, so you won't be surprised when the questions come.

The scenario part is like a video game, and you will have some separation errors or crash a few planes. Don't worry, I don't think that portion is weighted very heavily.

Basically, the best way to prepare is to read the instructions carefully, pay attention during the practice problems, and get a good nights sleep. You will do fine. Good luck!

ok I forgot the formula for those kind of math problems 320...15???????

SoonerATC · March 19th, 2008, 21:13

The formula for the distance problems is Distance = Rate x Time.

Is that what you meant?

JMATC25 · March 19th, 2008, 23:02

Hey all,

I've been watching the boards for a bit since I found this right before I took the ATSAT on 03/10. It took about 5 business days to get the results. I got them this past Monday. I got a 90 on the test. Just waiting to hear back now.

kmiller · March 19th, 2008, 23:15

302AV that's an interesting name you got there. I use work for CTL at KFRG and flew a Piper Warrior w/ that N#.

Justin538 · March 20th, 2008, 06:47

oh, and with the distance=rate x time problems, remember, one hour = 1.

This is important, because if there is a problem that uses a time that is less than an hour, you should use the appropriate decimal.

My problem from earlier.

D = R x T

? = 320 x .25 (15 minutes is one quarter of an hour)

80 = 320 x .25

I hate to spell it out so simply, I know you guys aren't dumb, but getting a strong hold on these questions is important.

JKoffler44 · March 20th, 2008, 13:32

Where on the ASAP does your score get posted? Is it on the first page where it states that "You have been selected to take the AT-SAT test.....?" I am assuming that is where it would be. I've also heard under "User Information" and then "Test Information".
I took the test on Wednesday, and I would have loved to get my score before Easter so I can tell my relatives who are ATC, but I don't think that will happen!

Justin538 · March 20th, 2008, 13:43

It will be on the first page, right above the "you have been selected..." part, and it will also be in the user information part. I took mine on the 4th, and didn't get the update until the 17th. I hope your's goes quicker though. The wait is killer!

302av · March 20th, 2008, 14:27

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Originally Posted by SoonerATC

The formula for the distance problems is Distance = Rate x Time.

Is that what you meant?

i guess so but 320=15*80 is that how i would be doing it

302av · March 20th, 2008, 14:40

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Originally Posted by kmiller

302AV that's an interesting name you got there. I use work for CTL at KFRG and flew a Piper Warrior w/ that N#.

funny you say that That was my favorit and worst plane. sometimes the flaps would not retract and my foot would always be hot at the rudder peddles. I could never forgot the runway it was right next too the cemetry and i would always say if i dident make it they dident have far to go lol

302av · March 20th, 2008, 14:43

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Originally Posted by Justin538

oh, and with the distance=rate x time problems, remember, one hour = 1.

This is important, because if there is a problem that uses a time that is less than an hour, you should use the appropriate decimal.

My problem from earlier.

D = R x T

? = 320 x .25 (15 minutes is one quarter of an hour)

80 = 320 x .25

I hate to spell it out so simply, I know you guys aren't dumb, but getting a strong hold on these questions is important.

yeah not dumb but definatley rusty. and trust me i need all the help i can get

Justin538 · March 20th, 2008, 14:45

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Originally Posted by 302av

i guess so but 320=15*80 is that how i would be doing it

No, be sure you can separate what they are asking you. with the problem i gave, (the 320 at fifteen minutes gets you how far).

320 is the rate
15 minutes is the time

they are asking you how far. (distance)

Now remember that time is calculated in HOURS this is important because anything less than an hour would be a decimal. For instance, 30 minutes is .5 hours, and 15 minutes is .25 hours.

so the equation would be set up as R x T = D

(320) x (.25) =D

so, 320 x .25 =80

Tip. When multiplying by decimals, they can be divided by the inverse. Example, multiplying .5 is the same as dividing by 2. Mulitplying .25 is the same as dividing by 4. It will not get more complicated than that on the test.

There will be one other complication though. It is thouroughly explained on the test instructions, and it involves airspeed and tailwind or headwind. If it says speed, and not airspeed then the wind is completely irrelevant. You will see. The important part is understanding that equation. I hope I explained it well.