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Old January 23rd, 2008, 16:12   #1
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Found this last night, and applied this morning!

Yeah, pay isn't what it used to be, but honestly, you see n00bs complaining about low FO pay, then you get others saying entry level pay should be appreciated.

So, in conjunction with todays (non) economic situation, 40K for a starting salary ... and they pay for your training ... yeah, it's not what it "should" be according to some, but I'd say, including all the guvment bennies, it's a pretty darned good deal.
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Old January 23rd, 2008, 16:57   #3
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Yeah, good luck. I'm starting around 36k and for me, this is more than double what I've ever made flying. If you're used to living on peanuts, it won't be bad. I'll be in the 50-60k range once checked out. It is a shame though, compared to what it used to be. I'm not complaining...yet.
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Yeah, good luck. I'm starting around 36k and for me, this is more than double what I've ever made flying. If you're used to living on peanuts, it won't be bad. I'll be in the 50-60k range once checked out. It is a shame though, compared to what it used to be. I'm not complaining...yet.
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Old January 23rd, 2008, 20:23   #5
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You already through OKC?
Nah, I start next month.
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Old January 23rd, 2008, 21:25   #6
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Would it be all right to apply and just see what happens since I'm currently doing the CTI route?
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Would it be all right to apply and just see what happens since I'm currently doing the CTI route?
Granted, I don't know much about CTI, but with the FAA hiring OTS, why not go for something else, and apply via OTS?
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Old January 23rd, 2008, 22:03   #8
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What did you guys pick as your 10 states?
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What did you guys pick as your 10 states?
I picked 2ea. locations in the following states, in this order.

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Close-ish to family.
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I picked 2ea. locations in the following states, in this order.

NC
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TN
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Close-ish to family.
The listing mentions the following at the bottom.

To be considered applicants should selected "UNITED STATES" and "THROUGHOUT THE NATION" for their location preference. Duty locations/facilities assignments will be determined at a later date.
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The listing mentions the following at the bottom.

To be considered applicants should selected "UNITED STATES" and "THROUGHOUT THE NATION" for their location preference. Duty locations/facilities assignments will be determined at a later date.
Holy crap! Thanks for pointing that out! Good thing it doesn't close until 2/15.

Whew!
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Holy crap! Thanks for pointing that out! Good thing it doesn't close until 2/15.

Whew!

I've got the application all filled out, I'll just wait for a while before I do anything.
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Old January 23rd, 2008, 23:12   #13
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Holy crap! Thanks for pointing that out! Good thing it doesn't close until 2/15.

Whew!

Not a problem. No need to yet...

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Old January 23rd, 2008, 23:55   #14
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I put Dallas, TX as my first preference and United States throughout as my second Can always hope eh?
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Has anyone noticed how SLOW the FAA server is running?? I feel like I'm on dial up
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Old January 24th, 2008, 11:13   #16
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Would it be all right to apply and just see what happens since I'm currently doing the CTI route?
If you apply and subsequently receive a tentative offer, you would have to make the choice of finishing the degree (declining the offer), or accepting the offer (discontinuing your degree). I am not sure if there is a possibility of deferring an offer by a class or two, but that may be worth researching with the FAA.

Also, this morning I received the following e-mail. It seems current OTS applicants are encouraged to apply for the latest OTS announcement.

The FAA has opened the new General Public announcement for Air Traffic Controller Specialist (ATCS) positions. This announcement is currently open and will close on 15 February 2008.
To receive additional consideration for future ATCS positions open after May of 2008, please apply to the announcement below.
The FAA is recruiting entry-level Air Traffic Controllers! Go to http://jobs.faa.gov/asap_detail.asp?vac_id=102077.
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Has anyone noticed how SLOW the FAA server is running?? I feel like I'm on dial up
Wait until after you're hired and have an issue with your pay... then you'll REALLY see how slow they can be!
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The FAA has opened the new General Public announcement for Air Traffic Controller Specialist (ATCS) positions. This announcement is currently open and will close on 15 February 2008.
To receive additional consideration for future ATCS positions open after May of 2008, please apply to the announcement below.
The FAA is recruiting entry-level Air Traffic Controllers! Go to http://jobs.faa.gov/asap_detail.asp?vac_id=102077.
I received the same email this morning from the FAA. Interesting last line in the email... I applied as well although at the rate the hiring process is going I'll be too old. haha. Passed the test at the begining of Dec and still no referal list.
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I applied today as well


Is this really the starting salary though?

$17,046 - $22,591
is what is posted on the link.
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Is this really the starting salary though?

$17,046 - $22,591
is what is posted on the link.
During the Academy, yes it is.
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I applied today as well


Is this really the starting salary though?

$17,046 - $22,591
is what is posted on the link.
There is a discussion going on over at atccti.com regarding the academy pay. It appears that people who have recently received a tentative offer are saying that the locality rate of the facility they will be going to, is included in the academy pay.

Good news for applicants living in or going to high-cost of living areas!
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Yeah, I'm at a low if not the lowest locality It translates to 19kish. Not sure how you would get only 17k.
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what are the chances of actually getting to work where you want to or is it a we offer you a place and you take it or lose it?
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Would it be all right to apply and just see what happens since I'm currently doing the CTI route?
Yeah do it. Never hurts. I am currently going to a cti school but when my teacher told me to apply I did. I have taken the At-SAT and am now waiting. It just basically opens more doors for you.
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Would it be all right to apply and just see what happens since I'm currently doing the CTI route?
That's exactly what I'm doing. I really want to get placed in my homestate of Oklahoma, so I'm applying OTS and plan to only list Oklahoma as my geographic preference. If I get offered Oklahoma, great! If not, then I can always continue pursuing the CTI route and apply either during the next Public Hiring Announcement or once I graduate from the CTI program. I figure right now I have nothing to lose.
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