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| Junior Member Join Date: Apr 2007 Location: Kansas, Trying to make it to Vegas as a Pro.
Posts: 110
| Are pencils and scratch paper allowed during testing? |
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| Junior Member Join Date: Jan 2008 Location: Oklahoma City
Posts: 257
| No- pencil, pen, paper, calculator, watch-calculators, cellphone, pager. Just you, the computer, keyboard and mouse. A watch is a great idea unless it has a calculator. A drink is allowed, keep it on the ground next to you. Math is the first sub-test which is 25 questions. You will have about 5 practice questions. Don't stress it! It will be a blasty blast! |
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| Newbie Join Date: Oct 2003 Location: St Augustine, FL
Posts: 26
| how long is the test? |
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| | #4 |
| Junior Member Join Date: Jan 2008 Location: Georgia
Posts: 73
| They give you 8 hours but it is kind of at your own pace. Each section is timed but you can take breaks and really take as long as you want as long as you give yourself enough time to finish. |
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| Newbie Join Date: Dec 2007 Location: New Haven
Posts: 10
| When I took it I think we started at 8:30 am. They read some instructions and away you go. Of the 8 or so people who were there when i took it I was the last to finish a little after 2pm. I took a 30 min lunch break is about all. But definitely go at your own pace. I was pretty surprised that everyone booked before me, of course, who knows how well they did.
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| | #6 |
| Junior Member Join Date: Apr 2006 Location: Anchorage AK
Posts: 83
| We started at 8:30, I was done by 10. When I left, most people were just taking their first break. I got a 98%. I ran into one of the other test takers at dinner that night. It took him the full 8 hours. Found out later through e-mail that he got a 73%..... So.... Study Study Study.
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| | #7 |
| Newbie Join Date: Oct 2003 Location: St Augustine, FL
Posts: 26
| what did you study? |
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| | #8 |
| Newbie Join Date: Dec 2007 Location: Texas
Posts: 13
| Ya, study what? I took the test and thought afterwards that the only possible thing that would of helped me would of been finding the exact same letter factory game and ATC scenario program. |
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| Junior Member Join Date: Jan 2008 Location: West Coast
Posts: 63
| There is a book titled "Air Traffic Control Career Prep" by Patrick Mattson available on Amazon and other bookstore chains. It also includes a CD with practice exercises you will encounter on the actual AT-SAT. Those sample tests are not exactly identical to the AT-SAT, but rather they give you a good idea of what to expect. If you do use the CD to prepare, make sure that you still take the time to read through the directions on the actual AT-SAT. I found a few discrepancies between the instructions in the CD and the actual test. Good luck! |
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| Junior Member Join Date: Apr 2006 Location: Anchorage AK
Posts: 83
| I studied some math and some basic stuff just to freshen up from years of Trig..lol. Other than that, for all you new ATSAT takers, I'm working on creating a study guide to help you get ready... along with a working version of the Letter Factory... but that all depends on how much spare time I have
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| Senior Member Join Date: Feb 2007 Location: Montana/UND
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| | #12 |
| Senior Member Join Date: Nov 2004 Location: Indianapolis
Posts: 387
| No need to study, if you have you have it. The vast majority never studied. No offense swim, but are you sure about those times? Letter factory and the ATC sim are 45 min each with both of those how did you finish in 1.5 hours?
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| | #13 |
| Newbie Join Date: Oct 2003 Location: St Augustine, FL
Posts: 26
| i'm planning on winging it. That is if I ever get to take it. |
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| Newbie Join Date: Dec 2007 Location: New Haven
Posts: 10
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![]() I didn't do any studying really, although I did use the test as an excuse to buy a Nintendo DS and play brain age and Flash focus a lot before I took it.
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| Junior Member | I'm studying using the Patrick Mattson book and CD. I have found the letter factory to be allright, but everytime I practice with it the computer will send down like 3 A's of the same color and also do the same type of stuff with other colors/letters. I think it is almost impossible to do everything right. Did anyone find this same problem on the test or is it more reasonable? Anyone use the practice CD and take the test? What were the differences (did the program act the same way?), besides some minor rules that I have already heard about? |
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| | #16 |
| Newbie Join Date: Oct 2007
Posts: 9
| I thought that the actual test was a lot easier than the practice CD-ROM. The letter factory was fairly different but they gave you instructions and a few practices before the scored part of the test began. The Air Traffic Scenarios were also easier and the scan test was about the same. |
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| | #17 |
| Junior Member Join Date: Jan 2008 Location: Georgia
Posts: 73
| The test is really much easier than the practice in the book and on the CD. The rules are similar if not the same which is good because you know what each section expects. I found the SCAN test to be easier because your able to catch a lot more of them on the test. The AT scenarios is also easier because it does actually update every 7 seconds like it is suppose to and the CD does not. The CD has the planes moving much faster and constant. The letter factory on the test does not do what the CD does it gives you only letters you can place but I will caution that there are some other rules to the letter factory on the test. All this being said I feel the book really helped me to prepare and I figure if you can do it when it is harder you should have it if it is easier on the test. I scored a 92.5 and I attribute some of that to knowing what was expected of me before I went and took the test. It is an aptitude test though so a lot of it you either have or you don't. I hoped this helped and GOOD LUCK. |
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| | #18 |
| Junior Member Join Date: Apr 2006 Location: Anchorage AK
Posts: 83
| Checked my call logs... in at 0755... out at 1027... So it was a little longer than that
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| | #19 |
| Junior Member Join Date: Jan 2008 Location: Oklahoma City
Posts: 257
| Way to go SwimAway! I'll drink to that, hell i'm drinking anyways. And to think, I took all the breaks, finished in six hours and I still just scored the same as you. I'll get you Swim, i'll get you!!! You can't knock hard work. Props SwimAway. To everyone else, who you got in the Super Biz'ole? Giants vs. Patriots(-12). I'm on the Patriots band wagon. FYI: I only have a couple bucks left in my account. Rough season to say the least. ![]() |
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| Junior Member Join Date: Apr 2006 Location: Anchorage AK
Posts: 83
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| Junior Member Join Date: May 2008 Location: Philly
Posts: 109
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I was just wondering if you ever made this. Or if anyone else has found a Letter Factory other than the one on the CD. It's fun, but has a few glitches. It shuts down before I can see how I did, and it seems impossible to not drop letters. But whatever, it is helpful.
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| Junior Member Join Date: May 2008 Location: Philly
Posts: 109
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I might get one, but I have a PSP already. But if I can write it off as a study aid.... ![]()
__________________ ![]() Education: Bachelor of Science with some grad school Vitals: Female in early 20's OTS: PUBNAT 3/4/5, PUBHI, PUBAK AT-SAT: Authorized on 7/17 Experience: Student Pilot | |
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| | #23 |
| Junior Member Join Date: May 2008 Location: Kent
Posts: 34
| Does anybody think that TIME plays into the test scores? I've just noticed that everyone who was done quickly that I've talked to has a higher score. I was the 1st done out of ~15 in the room I was in and got a 100. My scenarios were not nearly perfect though, as I had one crash, and on the long 1500 second one, I was landing airplanes the wrong way half the scenario.
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| | #24 |
| Junior Member Join Date: Feb 2008 Location: Washington, DC
Posts: 91
| One can only guess how the test is scored and what type of weight is given to each section. When I took the test back in the April I was the last to finish around 13:30 (took many breaks, left the hotel for lunch, etc). I would guess that time is only a factor when you run out of it on an individual section, I doubt they care if some one can finish the entire test in 2 hours vs 5 |
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| | #25 | |
| Junior Member Join Date: May 2008 Location: N/A
Posts: 104
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No. They tell you multiple times that you can "go at your own pace". Well, I took them at their word-- heck I drove 5 hours to take the test, so I wanted to take my time. Took all my breaks, little over an hour lunch, and was one of the last to finish. I ended up with a 95, which was better than I expected after I completely bombed the analogies. | |
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