ATC & NetworkJC?

Kristie · November 7th, 2007, 00:41

Just a question to all you ATC guys....do you think NJC could be of benefit to you?

We were thinking of possibly including a roundtable session between ATC and the pilots or just the ATC folks alone...

you could talk about frequently asked questions or typical conflicts or things pilots and/or ATC should know about the workforce, etiquette, communication etc...

would any of those listed above or anything about NJC be of assistance to you all?

Just wanted to get some thoughts before our britches get too far in front of us.

Appreciate your ideas!!

cloudman · November 7th, 2007, 11:02

Howdy I'm not an ATC person, but I did stay at a Holiday Inn Express last night

I've interacted with Charlotte N.C. ATC both formally – at AOPA Safety events, and out and about at our local airports. During all events ATC asked for interaction and answered any and all questions. Very proactive and not intimidating at all.

By far, you should have an open event for both parties.

JDE · November 7th, 2007, 13:08

As a pilot, I think it would be a good idea...now if I could just get to one of these NJC's!

OldTownPilot · November 7th, 2007, 19:33

Yeah like have an ATC'r as one of the panel members. That would be cool.

PilotChip · November 8th, 2007, 17:18

I'm down. make it close to LA/socal and we could make it a fly-in!

Fox Xray · November 9th, 2007, 16:19

Quote:

Originally Posted by Kristie

Just a question to all you ATC guys....do you think NJC could be of benefit to you?

We were thinking of possibly including a roundtable session between ATC and the pilots or just the ATC folks alone...

you could talk about frequently asked questions or typical conflicts or things pilots and/or ATC should know about the workforce, etiquette, communication etc...

would any of those listed above or anything about NJC be of assistance to you all?

Just wanted to get some thoughts before our britches get too far in front of us.

Appreciate your ideas!!

If I could make it I would be interested in attending if for no other reason to meet Doug and others to shoot the breeze. ATC is a weird profession, we hang out often and talk shop but not technical stuff, mostly work related, gossip, rumors, etc. When I meet pilots and they initiate the conversation I'll answer questions but my area of knowledge in ATC is limited to my specialization which is more geared towards the type of flying Doug and other more experienced pilots do. I have no tower, FSS, or approach experience.

I was under the the impression that Network JC is about career progression for pilots.

The only issue for me attending is they tend to be scheduled in the Fall and I'm usually out of leave by then...

Kristie · December 8th, 2007, 13:25

sure, it is about career progression...and in my opinion, i think ATC falls into that category...but i don't see why it couldn't include career progression of other aviation fields as well too (eventually) kwim?

Towerboss · December 8th, 2007, 17:37

Absolutely I'm down for a Q and A session. It's always nice to answer questions and help the pilots understand more of what we do and vice a versa(SP?).

TB

Kristie · December 8th, 2007, 20:02

Thanks, we appreciate the help! Next October is when we'll be holding the roundtables again (19th - 21st)

Kristie · December 8th, 2007, 20:05

In fact, if you all want...what do you think of holding an ATC networking/mingle session (separate from all the pilots)? We could do it at the same time as the recruiting event in a different room or on a different date...options are open.

Kristie · December 8th, 2007, 20:26

Quote:

Originally Posted by PilotChip

I'm down. make it close to LA/socal and we could make it a fly-in!

NetworkJC is always held in Vegas...that's about as close to socal as we can get

believe it or not, a few people do fly-in...to Henderson and/or LAS (parking at Signature, I think)?!

Fox Xray · December 9th, 2007, 14:34

My only issue with Netowrk JC is getting the leave to get out there. Under the current rules of the FAA (IWR's) we have to bid our leave in a rounds one year in advance. This past October we bid all our leave for 2008. I have nothing off in October.

Far gone are the days when I could flash and dash to a jumpseat and head across the country for a few days by asking for leave the week before.

As I said earlier, I would love to go if for no other reason then to meet Doug and shoot the breeze for a bit. As the date gets close I'm gonna try and finagle the days off but it is way too far out for me to know for sure.

Towerboss · December 9th, 2007, 22:54

Kristie,
Thanks for the PM, I am unfortunately in the same boat as Fox Xray. It might be possible for 2009 to bid that leave but 2008 is going to be tough, we are hurting now and going to be worse in Feb.

TB

Kristie · December 10th, 2007, 01:17

no kidding!?...I had no idea it was that "controlled"...if you can make it, cool! if not, we'll see what else we can do!!

November 7th, 2007, 00:41	#1
Kristie Big Chief's Woman Join Date: Feb 2001 Location: Scottsdale, Arizona Posts: 17,706 Blog Entries: 3	ATC & NetworkJC? Just a question to all you ATC guys....do you think NJC could be of benefit to you? We were thinking of possibly including a roundtable session between ATC and the pilots or just the ATC folks alone... you could talk about frequently asked questions or typical conflicts or things pilots and/or ATC should know about the workforce, etiquette, communication etc... would any of those listed above or anything about NJC be of assistance to you all? Just wanted to get some thoughts before our britches get too far in front of us. Appreciate your ideas!! __________________ Wife of a Delta B767 ER F/O jetgirls.net

November 7th, 2007, 11:02	#2
cloudman Junior Member Join Date: Oct 2007 Posts: 72	Re: ATC & NetworkJC? Howdy I'm not an ATC person, but I did stay at a Holiday Inn Express last night I've interacted with Charlotte N.C. ATC both formally – at AOPA Safety events, and out and about at our local airports. During all events ATC asked for interaction and answered any and all questions. Very proactive and not intimidating at all. By far, you should have an open event for both parties. __________________

November 7th, 2007, 13:08	#3
JDE Senior Member Join Date: Mar 2002 Location: Chattanooga, TN Posts: 1,462	Re: ATC & NetworkJC? As a pilot, I think it would be a good idea...now if I could just get to one of these NJC's! __________________ Jason Pics from the road - updated 01-24-08

November 7th, 2007, 19:33	#4
OldTownPilot Old Skool Join Date: May 2005 Location: BGR (Bangor, ME) Posts: 2,862 Blog Entries: 4	Re: ATC & NetworkJC? Yeah like have an ATC'r as one of the panel members. That would be cool. __________________ As a wise man said, sumb!tch flew in, sumb!tch'll fly out. Ski Hard. Party Harder.

November 8th, 2007, 17:18	#5
PilotChip Air Traffic Controller Join Date: Dec 2005 Location: Los Angeles Posts: 161	Re: ATC & NetworkJC? I'm down. make it close to LA/socal and we could make it a fly-in! __________________ Jason Photo: Al Asad ATCT

December 8th, 2007, 13:25	#7
Kristie Big Chief's Woman Join Date: Feb 2001 Location: Scottsdale, Arizona Posts: 17,706 Blog Entries: 3	Re: ATC & NetworkJC? sure, it is about career progression...and in my opinion, i think ATC falls into that category...but i don't see why it couldn't include career progression of other aviation fields as well too (eventually) kwim? __________________ Wife of a Delta B767 ER F/O jetgirls.net

December 8th, 2007, 17:37	#8
Towerboss Junior Member Join Date: Dec 2007 Location: TEXAS Posts: 38	Re: ATC & NetworkJC? Absolutely I'm down for a Q and A session. It's always nice to answer questions and help the pilots understand more of what we do and vice a versa(SP?). TB __________________ TB Air Traffic Controllers tell pilots where to go.

December 8th, 2007, 20:02	#9
Kristie Big Chief's Woman Join Date: Feb 2001 Location: Scottsdale, Arizona Posts: 17,706 Blog Entries: 3	Re: ATC & NetworkJC? Thanks, we appreciate the help! Next October is when we'll be holding the roundtables again (19th - 21st) __________________ Wife of a Delta B767 ER F/O jetgirls.net

December 8th, 2007, 20:05	#10
Kristie Big Chief's Woman Join Date: Feb 2001 Location: Scottsdale, Arizona Posts: 17,706 Blog Entries: 3	Re: ATC & NetworkJC? In fact, if you all want...what do you think of holding an ATC networking/mingle session (separate from all the pilots)? We could do it at the same time as the recruiting event in a different room or on a different date...options are open. __________________ Wife of a Delta B767 ER F/O jetgirls.net

December 9th, 2007, 14:34	#12
Fox Xray ATC Join Date: Mar 2006 Posts: 402	Re: ATC & NetworkJC? My only issue with Netowrk JC is getting the leave to get out there. Under the current rules of the FAA (IWR's) we have to bid our leave in a rounds one year in advance. This past October we bid all our leave for 2008. I have nothing off in October. Far gone are the days when I could flash and dash to a jumpseat and head across the country for a few days by asking for leave the week before. As I said earlier, I would love to go if for no other reason then to meet Doug and shoot the breeze for a bit. As the date gets close I'm gonna try and finagle the days off but it is way too far out for me to know for sure.

December 9th, 2007, 22:54	#13
Towerboss Junior Member Join Date: Dec 2007 Location: TEXAS Posts: 38	Re: ATC & NetworkJC? Kristie, Thanks for the PM, I am unfortunately in the same boat as Fox Xray. It might be possible for 2009 to bid that leave but 2008 is going to be tough, we are hurting now and going to be worse in Feb. TB __________________ TB Air Traffic Controllers tell pilots where to go.

December 10th, 2007, 01:17	#14
Kristie Big Chief's Woman Join Date: Feb 2001 Location: Scottsdale, Arizona Posts: 17,706 Blog Entries: 3	Re: ATC & NetworkJC? no kidding!?...I had no idea it was that "controlled"...if you can make it, cool! if not, we'll see what else we can do!! __________________ Wife of a Delta B767 ER F/O jetgirls.net

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