Anyone Else Going/Gone through the "Off The Street" Method?

dheminger722 · July 5th, 2007, 18:11

Curious to see if anyone else has made it through the off the street method.. Let me know I would like to ask some questions Thanks

TonyWilliams · July 6th, 2007, 09:53

Yes, I went through the "off the street" method. No CTI, no MARC, no military ATC experience.

1988

Worked fine for 18 years.

dheminger722 · July 6th, 2007, 12:50

Quote:

Originally Posted by TonyWilliams

Yes, I went through the "off the street" method. No CTI, no MARC, no military ATC experience.

1988

Worked fine for 18 years.

Well then at least I know its possible.. When it comes to this job. 110% + 100% bonus of giving it all I have !

mpv broker · July 6th, 2007, 18:10

Congrats on hearing something from the FAA, I applied via the same route for open positions in Nor Cal over 2 months ago, they still havent posted a referral list!

Fox Xray · July 7th, 2007, 22:31

Quote:

Originally Posted by dheminger722

Curious to see if anyone else has made it through the off the street method.. Let me know I would like to ask some questions Thanks

What info are you looking for ? There are a few new guys in my area who where hired via the ATSAT ... lately I have learned some info about the new "off the street" hires...

dheminger722 · July 8th, 2007, 01:52

Quote:

Originally Posted by mpv broker

Congrats on hearing something from the FAA, I applied via the same route for open positions in Nor Cal over 2 months ago, they still havent posted a referral list!

Hey just a fair warning you will see nothing in the referral list.. It will show up on the front page weither you were eligable for that position or not.. Dont be down if it says you werent I had about 3 say I wasnt eligable then the southern florida one popped up and said we will contact you in three weeks.. Oh, Another thing once you see that your going to be contacted for a test date.. Bob O'losky (sp), the guy running the testing for Robinson Aviation, He said they are extremely behind he hasnt recieved any applications from the faa since 5/15/07 so they are two months behind but he said when it comes down to it I will be calling all of the accepted applicants personally for a test date/test location so just be patient..

dheminger722 · July 8th, 2007, 01:55

Quote:

Originally Posted by Fox Xray

What info are you looking for ? There are a few new guys in my area who where hired via the ATSAT ... lately I have learned some info about the new "off the street" hires...

The reason why I created this thread is to see the progress of others and how they were contacted and to get an idea of time frames.. for people going through the OTS hires .. But if you have some good information please provide .. Id be interested in seeing what you have to say.. Thanks

Fox Xray · July 9th, 2007, 13:24

Where I work there is a couple of the new hires that were hired through ATSAT off the street. Most have zero aviation knowledge and walking into a level 12 center they have had their work cut out for them. Since you are on this board I assume that you have aviation knowledge. That is the advantage that CTI's and VRA's have. Either prior ATC through the military or at least some aviation knowledge. Walking into a ATC facility understanding the system, airways, VOR's, A/C types and performance is a huge advantage, it lets you focus on the nuts and bolts of ATC.

dheminger722 · July 9th, 2007, 13:45

Quote:

Originally Posted by Fox Xray

Where I work there is a couple of the new hires that were hired through ATSAT off the street. Most have zero aviation knowledge and walking into a level 12 center they have had their work cut out for them. Since you are on this board I assume that you have aviation knowledge. That is the advantage that CTI's and VRA's have. Either prior ATC through the military or at least some aviation knowledge. Walking into a ATC facility understanding the system, airways, VOR's, A/C types and performance is a huge advantage, it lets you focus on the nuts and bolts of ATC.

unfortunitely the only ATC knowledge that I obtain is what I have recieved from people going throught the academy since im here in OKC and what I have read in the forums.. I feed for knowledge so I dont hurt to ask

SwimAway · January 11th, 2008, 11:59

I am an OTS applicant as well. I have received my tentative offer letter. Waiting on the firm offer and a trip to OK

Polarbear · January 13th, 2008, 12:09

I have made it through the proccess, recieved a tentative, and cleared all checks. They have informed me of the date I should start for En Route Initial training, but are waiting for the Air Traffic Basics' class schedule to be finalized to give me a final offer.

SwimAway · January 14th, 2008, 09:51

How long did it take for the checks to get done?

Polarbear · January 14th, 2008, 13:07

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Originally Posted by SwimAway

How long did it take for the checks to get done?

Less than a month

magnetic907 · January 14th, 2008, 13:33

hey whats up i am also from off the street, and i took my test sept 20th and they just got back to me jan 3, with a email. they want be to fax some paper work back to them in the next couple of days. then i guess i hear the next step. this the application they pulled was from july 17 i think whatever posting that was in july they pulled... i hope my information helps they just taking there time.

Andrew_VT · January 14th, 2008, 16:38

I hope I don't offend anyone here too much...but why does the CTI 4-year of college thing even exist if the FAA is just going to hire people off the street as well? What a way to backstab everyone involved in the CTI programs.

Disregarding experience seems like a good way for the FAA to marginalize the entire profession... it just doesn't seem right.

What are your opinions on this?

-Relative of CTI student

clcl · January 14th, 2008, 16:47

Yeah on planet Earth that makes sense, but come on,,, this is the FAA were talking about!

tefpetti · January 15th, 2008, 13:44

I applying via the OTS method.I was selected for the Champaign, IL AT-SAT annoucement on 8/16/07. I took the test on 1/2/08 in Chicago. Received my AT-SAT score (86.4) on 1/09/08. Waiting on interview.

RABIRZA69 · January 15th, 2008, 17:15

ATSAT 6/2007 Class date 1/25/08

Beehive · January 15th, 2008, 21:22

I don't know what the FAA is doing about CTI students but i'm sure recent graduates are getting first stab at locations and facilities.
I'm OTS with no aviation experience and I have received a couple offers from northern states. With that said, I believe more qualified applicants are getting offers from the warmer parts of the nation which are probably the applicants first or only geographical preference.

SwimAway · January 15th, 2008, 23:18

Hehe, I chose the cold

Maybe it was because I thought it would be easier to get it

But to be honest, I hate cali and I really really miss living in AK.

So bring on the cold

Beehive · January 16th, 2008, 23:44

I have spent all my life in Utah. I love the summer and the winter is a welcomed change. No bugs to deal with! It is 15 degrees right now(21:45)! In the summer, high 90's and 100 degree temps are not abnormal.

July 5th, 2007, 18:11	#1
dheminger722 Newbie Join Date: May 2007 Location: Oklahoma City, OK Posts: 19	Anyone Else Going/Gone through the "Off The Street" Method? Curious to see if anyone else has made it through the off the street method.. Let me know I would like to ask some questions Thanks

July 6th, 2007, 09:53	#2
TonyWilliams Junior Member Join Date: Feb 2007 Location: Oxnard, California Posts: 32	Re: Anyone Else Going/Gone through the "Off The Street" Meth Yes, I went through the "off the street" method. No CTI, no MARC, no military ATC experience. 1988 Worked fine for 18 years.

July 6th, 2007, 18:10	#4
mpv broker Junior Member Join Date: Feb 2002 Posts: 36	Re: Anyone Else Going/Gone through the "Off The Street" Meth Congrats on hearing something from the FAA, I applied via the same route for open positions in Nor Cal over 2 months ago, they still havent posted a referral list!

July 9th, 2007, 13:24	#8
Fox Xray ATC Join Date: Mar 2006 Posts: 400	Re: Anyone Else Going/Gone through the "Off The Street" Meth Where I work there is a couple of the new hires that were hired through ATSAT off the street. Most have zero aviation knowledge and walking into a level 12 center they have had their work cut out for them. Since you are on this board I assume that you have aviation knowledge. That is the advantage that CTI's and VRA's have. Either prior ATC through the military or at least some aviation knowledge. Walking into a ATC facility understanding the system, airways, VOR's, A/C types and performance is a huge advantage, it lets you focus on the nuts and bolts of ATC.

January 11th, 2008, 11:59	#10
SwimAway Junior Member Join Date: Apr 2006 Location: Anchorage AK Posts: 83	Re: Anyone Else Going/Gone through the "Off The Street" Meth I am an OTS applicant as well. I have received my tentative offer letter. Waiting on the firm offer and a trip to OK __________________ Corporate, Contract and Fractional Aviation

January 13th, 2008, 12:09	#11
Polarbear Senior Member Join Date: Nov 2004 Location: Indianapolis Posts: 387	Re: Anyone Else Going/Gone through the "Off The Street" Meth I have made it through the proccess, recieved a tentative, and cleared all checks. They have informed me of the date I should start for En Route Initial training, but are waiting for the Air Traffic Basics' class schedule to be finalized to give me a final offer. __________________ The only stupid questions are the ones you should have asked, but never did.

January 14th, 2008, 09:51	#12
SwimAway Junior Member Join Date: Apr 2006 Location: Anchorage AK Posts: 83	Re: Anyone Else Going/Gone through the "Off The Street" Meth How long did it take for the checks to get done? __________________ Corporate, Contract and Fractional Aviation

January 14th, 2008, 13:33	#14
magnetic907 Newbie Join Date: Nov 2007 Location: capital hgts Posts: 14	Re: Anyone Else Going/Gone through the "Off The Street" Meth hey whats up i am also from off the street, and i took my test sept 20th and they just got back to me jan 3, with a email. they want be to fax some paper work back to them in the next couple of days. then i guess i hear the next step. this the application they pulled was from july 17 i think whatever posting that was in july they pulled... i hope my information helps they just taking there time.

January 14th, 2008, 16:38	#15
Andrew_VT Senior Member Join Date: Jun 2006 Location: Vermont Posts: 616	Re: Anyone Else Going/Gone through the "Off The Street" Meth I hope I don't offend anyone here too much...but why does the CTI 4-year of college thing even exist if the FAA is just going to hire people off the street as well? What a way to backstab everyone involved in the CTI programs. Disregarding experience seems like a good way for the FAA to marginalize the entire profession... it just doesn't seem right. What are your opinions on this? -Relative of CTI student

January 14th, 2008, 16:47	#16
clcl Newbie Join Date: Sep 2007 Posts: 22	Re: Anyone Else Going/Gone through the "Off The Street" Meth Yeah on planet Earth that makes sense, but come on,,, this is the FAA were talking about!

January 15th, 2008, 13:44	#17
tefpetti Junior Member Join Date: Dec 2007 Location: Charlotte NC Posts: 31	Re: Anyone Else Going/Gone through the "Off The Street" Meth I applying via the OTS method.I was selected for the Champaign, IL AT-SAT annoucement on 8/16/07. I took the test on 1/2/08 in Chicago. Received my AT-SAT score (86.4) on 1/09/08. Waiting on interview.

January 15th, 2008, 17:15	#18
RABIRZA69 Senior Member Join Date: Feb 2004 Location: Shaolin NY, ACK MA Posts: 570	Re: Anyone Else Going/Gone through the "Off The Street" Meth ATSAT 6/2007 Class date 1/25/08 __________________ "CESSNA ONE SEVEN TWO PAPA TENGO YOU HAVE DISOBEYED NOW SUFFER THE CONSEQUENCES "

January 15th, 2008, 21:22	#19
Beehive Junior Member Join Date: Jan 2008 Location: Oklahoma City Posts: 257	Re: Anyone Else Going/Gone through the "Off The Street" Meth I don't know what the FAA is doing about CTI students but i'm sure recent graduates are getting first stab at locations and facilities. I'm OTS with no aviation experience and I have received a couple offers from northern states. With that said, I believe more qualified applicants are getting offers from the warmer parts of the nation which are probably the applicants first or only geographical preference.

January 15th, 2008, 23:18	#20
SwimAway Junior Member Join Date: Apr 2006 Location: Anchorage AK Posts: 83	Re: Anyone Else Going/Gone through the "Off The Street" Meth Hehe, I chose the cold Maybe it was because I thought it would be easier to get it But to be honest, I hate cali and I really really miss living in AK. So bring on the cold __________________ Corporate, Contract and Fractional Aviation

January 16th, 2008, 23:44	#21
Beehive Junior Member Join Date: Jan 2008 Location: Oklahoma City Posts: 257	Re: Anyone Else Going/Gone through the "Off The Street" Meth I have spent all my life in Utah. I love the summer and the winter is a welcomed change. No bugs to deal with! It is 15 degrees right now(21:45)! In the summer, high 90's and 100 degree temps are not abnormal.

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