Wha' happened?

texas_pilot · June 1st, 2007, 18:00

My buddy was doing a daily entry @ KDAL and heard Love Appch directing him to Love Twr. He responded his callsign and intentions to transfer- paused and then switched.
Since Love Twr cleared him #2 for 13L, he continued.
Turns out they're trying to violate him for spacing under 3 miles- he can't even hear the tapes in question.
Also indicated there might be other pilots popped the same day. Did they get a new Sheriff?
He doesn't have a lot of money for attorney and his AOPA expired.
Any ideas?
Thanks

Fox Xray · June 3rd, 2007, 11:57

I'm not sure I really follow this... I pilot can not be held responsible for 3 mile separation. There is no way for a pilot to accurately determine separation from other aircraft. Maybe he was issued a clearance and did not follow it causing the controller to have less then 3 miles separation ? That case would be a pilot deviation...

I would need more info to give any advice.

PilotChip · October 27th, 2007, 00:52

Can you reference us with a link?

Could be possible that the pilot didn't maintain a certain assigned speed resulting in reduced sep minima, albeit, at a certain point on final speed restrictions are canceled automatically anyway.

June 1st, 2007, 18:00	#1
texas_pilot Junior Member Join Date: Sep 2006 Location: Tx Posts: 46	Wha' happened? My buddy was doing a daily entry @ KDAL and heard Love Appch directing him to Love Twr. He responded his callsign and intentions to transfer- paused and then switched. Since Love Twr cleared him #2 for 13L, he continued. Turns out they're trying to violate him for spacing under 3 miles- he can't even hear the tapes in question. Also indicated there might be other pilots popped the same day. Did they get a new Sheriff? He doesn't have a lot of money for attorney and his AOPA expired. Any ideas? Thanks

October 27th, 2007, 00:52	#3
PilotChip Air Traffic Controller Join Date: Dec 2005 Location: Los Angeles Posts: 161	Re: Wha' happened? Can you reference us with a link? Could be possible that the pilot didn't maintain a certain assigned speed resulting in reduced sep minima, albeit, at a certain point on final speed restrictions are canceled automatically anyway. __________________ Jason Photo: Al Asad ATCT

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June 3rd, 2007, 11:57	#2
Fox Xray ATC Join Date: Mar 2006 Posts: 401	Re: Wha' happened? I'm not sure I really follow this... I pilot can not be held responsible for 3 mile separation. There is no way for a pilot to accurately determine separation from other aircraft. Maybe he was issued a clearance and did not follow it causing the controller to have less then 3 miles separation ? That case would be a pilot deviation... I would need more info to give any advice.