jobs before ATC

Stinger · March 21st, 2007, 11:50

Okay, so if all controllers have to go through the Oklahoma City test school, and nobody gets hired before going through Oklahoma, would it help your chances of getting hired if you had some kind of an aviation-related job experience? Or do previous jobs not matter at all for ATC?

surreal1221 · March 22nd, 2007, 01:56

They don't really play much of an impact. The FAA has taken in ATC wannabees who were once lawyers, and who were also once McDonald's burger flippers. It doesn't play much of an impact at all.

Fox Xray · March 24th, 2007, 22:12

It doesn't much matter what you do before getting into ATC... having some aviation knowledge helps initially. I would say that having a PPL would most likely be the best thing coming in... the PPL gives you basic knowledge of the NAS. Runways, airways, VOR's, etc. I think it also makes a controller understand GA a lot better, at least in my case. Getting my PPL really opened my eyes to a lot of things.

Andrew_VT · March 24th, 2007, 23:13

I should probably put this in another thread, and i still might, but I cant believe the FAA is taking people off the street when there are plenty of graduates of 4 year ATC B.S. degrees that are waiting for their call-backs.

Fox Xray · March 25th, 2007, 08:49

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Originally Posted by Andrew_VT

I should probably put this in another thread, and i still might, but I cant believe the FAA is taking people off the street when there are plenty of graduates of 4 year ATC B.S. degrees that are waiting for their call-backs.

I believe it... the FAA DOES NOT CARE !!! They don't care about safety, they don't care that they lied to thousands of CTI students... they simply do not care. This agency... led by Maid Marion has an agenda that has nothing to do with the good of the FAA. From day one they had an agenda to stick it the controller workforce every which way they could and this is just another example. I hear ya Andrew... your frustration is shared by many that I speak to. Read the following memo for an idea of what is running the FAA...

http://themainbang.typepad.com/blog/...ffingAgain.pdf

My advice to you and anyone else is to write your congressman, write your senator... let them know about the bait and switch the FAA pulled on you. Let them know that you will note vote for a politician who does not support fairness in the FAA.

Hang in there... there are some things in the works.

SteveC · March 25th, 2007, 09:35

Anybody interested in working ATC would be well advised to study the history of the FAA and ATC. A while back I ran across a pretty good college paper written about the PATCO strike, and it does a pretty good job of looking at the overall relationship and is very pertinent in many ways to the situation today. Knowing the history of the struggles between management and controllers can help shed light on the current problems.

The Pressures of PATCO: Strikes and Stress in the 1980s

surreal1221 · March 25th, 2007, 10:15

Quote:

Originally Posted by Andrew_VT

I should probably put this in another thread, and i still might, but I cant believe the FAA is taking people off the street when there are plenty of graduates of 4 year ATC B.S. degrees that are waiting for their call-backs.

Pretty disgusting isn't it? It's the reason I turned down the slot, that and the ignorance of the administration during the non-tract no-gotiations a year and a half ago.

BillH · March 26th, 2007, 19:56

Im doing the ATC-CTI thing right now, as well as getting my PPL from Miami Dade College. For me, it will boil down to what I enjoy most, so I really don't have a hard decision to make!
Well with ATC I would start out with 38k, and full benefits, and a pension. With piloting, I love to fly, and well...
I'd rather be happy than misserable. IF I can work it, By the time I am 31, which is the ATC cut off, I will have been flying with a regional for a couple of years, will be able to make my decision then.

March 21st, 2007, 11:50	#1
Stinger Senior Member Join Date: Feb 2007 Location: Montana/UND Posts: 432	jobs before ATC Okay, so if all controllers have to go through the Oklahoma City test school, and nobody gets hired before going through Oklahoma, would it help your chances of getting hired if you had some kind of an aviation-related job experience? Or do previous jobs not matter at all for ATC? __________________ Air Traffic Controller's motto----If the clouds are low and thick, pick up the phone and call in sick.

March 22nd, 2007, 01:56	#2
surreal1221 Old Skool Join Date: Jul 2006 Location: Alpha Tango Lima Posts: 9,854	Re: jobs before ATC They don't really play much of an impact. The FAA has taken in ATC wannabees who were once lawyers, and who were also once McDonald's burger flippers. It doesn't play much of an impact at all. __________________ AGI.MEI.CFI.CFII.FO.CRJ2 \| Josh \| The TRoP \| Rmble On \| ALPA \| IVAW \| ACLU \|

March 24th, 2007, 22:12	#3
Fox Xray ATC Join Date: Mar 2006 Posts: 437	Re: jobs before ATC It doesn't much matter what you do before getting into ATC... having some aviation knowledge helps initially. I would say that having a PPL would most likely be the best thing coming in... the PPL gives you basic knowledge of the NAS. Runways, airways, VOR's, etc. I think it also makes a controller understand GA a lot better, at least in my case. Getting my PPL really opened my eyes to a lot of things.

March 24th, 2007, 23:13	#4
Andrew_VT Senior Member Join Date: Jun 2006 Location: Vermont Posts: 617	Re: jobs before ATC I should probably put this in another thread, and i still might, but I cant believe the FAA is taking people off the street when there are plenty of graduates of 4 year ATC B.S. degrees that are waiting for their call-backs.

March 25th, 2007, 09:35	#6
SteveC Moderator Join Date: May 2003 Location: GRR Posts: 8,631	Re: jobs before ATC Anybody interested in working ATC would be well advised to study the history of the FAA and ATC. A while back I ran across a pretty good college paper written about the PATCO strike, and it does a pretty good job of looking at the overall relationship and is very pertinent in many ways to the situation today. Knowing the history of the struggles between management and controllers can help shed light on the current problems. The Pressures of PATCO: Strikes and Stress in the 1980s __________________ . If life gives you lemons, throw 'em into a quart of vodka. ~Red Green

March 26th, 2007, 19:56	#8
BillH Junior Member Join Date: Mar 2007 Location: Miami Posts: 280	Re: jobs before ATC Im doing the ATC-CTI thing right now, as well as getting my PPL from Miami Dade College. For me, it will boil down to what I enjoy most, so I really don't have a hard decision to make! Well with ATC I would start out with 38k, and full benefits, and a pension. With piloting, I love to fly, and well... I'd rather be happy than misserable. IF I can work it, By the time I am 31, which is the ATC cut off, I will have been flying with a regional for a couple of years, will be able to make my decision then.

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