Class G tower - Page 2

jtrain609 · February 24th, 2007, 17:26

Doubt it, they can read the one minute weather on the ASOS and call it "Bravo" pretty easily.

I think it has more to do with how they'd slice up the airspace between Arlingon and Grand Prairie with how close they are.

KLB · February 24th, 2007, 18:34

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Originally Posted by SmitteyB

Now, this is just what I read from a CFI Candidate taking his checkride at the Ft. Worth Alliance FSDO-

I guess he asked 3/4 inspectors why Spinks and Prairie were G towers, when the have the same dimensions, entry requirement and night weather minimums, because they could easily be Class D's. Unfourtunately not one inspector knew the answer or knew anyone who did.

Supposedly- To be a Class D tower the airport needs advanced weather reporting equipment which would eventually lead to an ATIS. As where Arlington, Spinks, and Prairie all have ASOS3.

Again, if anyone thinks this is wrong, let me know.

DTO has asos/awos and it's class D.

SmitteyB · February 24th, 2007, 21:10

It's just what I read.

SmitteyB · February 24th, 2007, 21:19

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Originally Posted by KLB

DTO has asos/awos and it's class D.

What type of ASOS/AWOS .... it has both? Impressive airport.

KLB · February 25th, 2007, 12:02

Nah! I've been out of the area for a while now and couldn't remember which one.

CFIse · February 25th, 2007, 18:52

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Originally Posted by jtrain609

Doubt it, they can read the one minute weather on the ASOS and call it "Bravo" pretty easily.

ASOS/AWOS doesn't matter - the tower needs a qualified weather observer to be Class D - the lack of such a person is normally why a tower is in Class G.

ryanmickG · February 28th, 2007, 00:13

Spinks (FWS) has an ATIS, and its a G tower.

jtrain609 · February 28th, 2007, 00:26

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Originally Posted by ryanmickG

Spinks (FWS) has an ATIS, and its a G tower.

That's right, keep your student in line!

jtrain609 · February 28th, 2007, 00:27

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Originally Posted by CFIse

ASOS/AWOS doesn't matter - the tower needs a qualified weather observer to be Class D - the lack of such a person is normally why a tower is in Class G.

That's gotta be BS, but I'm too lazy to look it up and prove you wrong. KCMA reverting to one minute weather and saying, "Information Alpha" before being a computerized voice makes me think you're full of it.

SmitteyB · February 28th, 2007, 02:16

Hey, I just read it - it wasn't what I was saying was fact.

Relax.

ryanmickG · February 28th, 2007, 09:55

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Originally Posted by SmitteyB

Hey, I just read it - it wasn't what I was saying was fact.

Relax.

Hey!!

You have till the 15th to get this whole enternal tower conflict to rest!!!!

SmitteyB · February 28th, 2007, 13:25

I'm trying my best.

mojo6911 · February 28th, 2007, 20:45

CFIse is right, but http://www.faa.gov/airports_airtraff...R/air1702.html says that the official reporter can be an automatic weather observing system. My guess, is that there are hoops to jump through to get the Class D that GPM and FWS don't want to go through, and GKY will be Class D sometime in the future.

I_WANNA_BE_ATP · March 1st, 2007, 21:33

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Originally Posted by Bandit_Driver

Hey I WANNA BE ATP..Is your avatar in Toledo?

I have no idea where it is. I got it from an email and really liked it!!

exleardriver · October 17th, 2007, 19:42

khot and kpbf in arkansas used to be class d, but the towers closed a good many years back (tower buildings still standing) and the airspace went to class e to the surface, still have precision approaches.

butt · October 23rd, 2007, 00:57

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Originally Posted by exleardriver

khot and kpbf in arkansas used to be class d, but the towers closed a good many years back (tower buildings still standing) and the airspace went to class e to the surface, still have precision approaches.

How does that matter? I could name a bunch of E and G airports that have precision approaches.

Lord Vader · October 23rd, 2007, 03:15

You MUST talk to the Class G tower when they are open, even if they're not published on the sectionals. They should be posted on the notams for the airport.

surreal1221 · October 23rd, 2007, 07:18

Quote:

Originally Posted by SmitteyB

Now, this is just what I read from a CFI Candidate taking his checkride at the Ft. Worth Alliance FSDO-

I guess he asked 3/4 inspectors why Spinks and Prairie were G towers, when the have the same dimensions, entry requirement and night weather minimums, because they could easily be Class D's. Unfourtunately not one inspector knew the answer or knew anyone who did.

Supposedly- To be a Class D tower the airport needs advanced weather reporting equipment which would eventually lead to an ATIS. As where Arlington, Spinks, and Prairie all have ASOS3.

Again, if anyone thinks this is wrong, let me know.

Sounds right to me. . .much more goes into the facilities of a class D airport than just airspace and a control tower.

Weather facilities is one of them.

exleardriver · October 25th, 2007, 01:57

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Originally Posted by exleardriver

khot and kpbf in arkansas used to be class d, but the towers closed a good many years back (tower buildings still standing) and the airspace went to class e to the surface, still have precision approaches.

it doesn't. it was an 'and' statement, not a 'because'.

February 24th, 2007, 17:26	#26
jtrain609 Old Skool Join Date: Feb 2002 Location: Park City, UT Posts: 12,100	Re: Class G tower Doubt it, they can read the one minute weather on the ASOS and call it "Bravo" pretty easily. I think it has more to do with how they'd slice up the airspace between Arlingon and Grand Prairie with how close they are. __________________ "I could stand at the end of the line of the general mills cereal plant to make sure that all the lucky charms are up to par for 38k a year." -snickersnwa

February 24th, 2007, 21:10	#28
SmitteyB Old Skool Join Date: Nov 2004 Location: Ithaca, NY Posts: 1,942	Re: Class G tower It's just what I read. __________________ Colgan SAAB FO "Colgan Air...Pissing off the world 34 people at a time"

February 25th, 2007, 12:02	#30
KLB Old Skool Join Date: May 2005 Location: DFW Posts: 2,484	Re: Class G tower Nah! I've been out of the area for a while now and couldn't remember which one.

February 28th, 2007, 00:13	#32
ryanmickG Old Skool Join Date: Nov 2004 Location: Arlington TX Posts: 1,592	Re: Class G tower Spinks (FWS) has an ATIS, and its a G tower.

February 28th, 2007, 02:16	#35
SmitteyB Old Skool Join Date: Nov 2004 Location: Ithaca, NY Posts: 1,942	Re: Class G tower Hey, I just read it - it wasn't what I was saying was fact. Relax. __________________ Colgan SAAB FO "Colgan Air...Pissing off the world 34 people at a time"

February 28th, 2007, 13:25	#37
SmitteyB Old Skool Join Date: Nov 2004 Location: Ithaca, NY Posts: 1,942	Re: Class G tower I'm trying my best. __________________ Colgan SAAB FO "Colgan Air...Pissing off the world 34 people at a time"

February 28th, 2007, 20:45	#38
mojo6911 Senior Member Join Date: Jan 2007 Location: GKY Posts: 1,457	Re: Class G tower CFIse is right, but http://www.faa.gov/airports_airtraff...R/air1702.html says that the official reporter can be an automatic weather observing system. My guess, is that there are hoops to jump through to get the Class D that GPM and FWS don't want to go through, and GKY will be Class D sometime in the future.

October 17th, 2007, 19:42	#40
exleardriver Senior Member Join Date: Jul 2007 Location: Little Rock, Arkansas Posts: 418	Re: Class G tower khot and kpbf in arkansas used to be class d, but the towers closed a good many years back (tower buildings still standing) and the airspace went to class e to the surface, still have precision approaches. __________________ Gold Seal CFII, MEI, AGI, IGI, ATP, LR-Jet

October 23rd, 2007, 03:15	#42
Lord Vader Newbie Join Date: Oct 2007 Location: LAS Posts: 8	Re: Class G tower You MUST talk to the Class G tower when they are open, even if they're not published on the sectionals. They should be posted on the notams for the airport.

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