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Old January 24th, 2007, 00:15   #26
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Ah, thank you for speaking out Fox Xray. If only more understood.
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Old January 24th, 2007, 01:02   #27
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Ah, thank you for speaking out Fox Xray. If only more understood.
Aviation is a profession that unless someone can walk in our shoes for a day they cannot fathom what we have to do day in and day out, be it pilot, controller, whatever.

I perfectly understand that PurduePilot is excited about his new career... I think he is just the type of young energetic experienced and educated young blood that is BADLY needed in the controller ranks. I feel very strongly that him and every other person in OKC should be treated FAR better by their employer, the FAA. He should be compensated for the responsibility he will have on his shoulders. This is a job where things go from zero to very bad in a split second.
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Old January 24th, 2007, 01:23   #28
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I just hope things change drastically in the coming years, and that it most importantly does not become privatized. What I also envision, is that off-the-street hiring will happen again in the near future. Perhaps that'll be my way back into the air traffic profession, but right now I can't sacrifice my time for such a low pay environment when everything is stacked against us from the start. Taking that AT-SAT a second time will be nice too. . .

Time will tell.
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Old January 24th, 2007, 21:09   #29
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Day 2:

AT-SAT Day! It wasn't as bad as I thought it would be. It was a computer-based test and it came in many parts.

The first part was called "flight strips." It wasn't a 'flight strip' in the normal sense of the idea, but rather it tested the applicant's ability to quickly search for numbers outside of a range. Many 'flight strips' like this would show up on the screen: U76/090 and the range of numbers would be something like 600-800. If the flight strip fell outside that range, then you would type in "090." Sounds simple enough but with like 25 of these things on the screen at any given time and the range changing every few minutes it was easy to screw up.

The next part was "letter factory." This 'game' tested the applicant's ability to multitask and short-term memory. The applicant had to sort colored letters into their proper boxes (four letters to a box: A, B, C, D), while watching out for wrong letters (if another letter showed up on the belt, you had to call "Quality Control" before it got to be too late) and reordering boxes. Then in the middle of everything it would cut to a series of multiple choice questions that asked you things like: "what color boxes did you use?" "which letter is closest to the cut-off?" and "what letter do you need to complete the green box?" If I got one of those questions right, I would be surprised.

The next part was "TRACON." It was a basic TRACON simulator where you'd accept handoffs and guide the planes to two "airports" and four "gates." You had your choice of Fast, Medium, Slow for speeds and 1-4 for altitudes. You can't have an airplane overfly an airport and sometimes the handoffs would appear right next to airport. Needless to say, I had many crashes!

Then the last part was a mini-psych test. This test turned out to be a 5-6 hour ordeal (breaking 1 hour for lunch).

On the plus side, this has no bearing on your career and is used for "research purposes only." That's probably government double-speak for "your score is going to be sent up the flag-pole and your future tower manager will know how bad you've done."

If you folks have any other questions, don't hesitate to ask!
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I'm just checking is there anyone that can give me some advice.. I just applied for the 05/02 for LA ATC position.. there still isnt any referals yet.. Is this normal.. or will they let me know if I get accepted to take the ATSAT or Declined? I have been wanting to become an ATC since I was a kid.. so I'm hoping that there is a good chance of at least taking the ATSAT.. Thanks
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If you applied online and did all the forms, then I'd say just wait. It will take some time for the FAA to get back to you.
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I'm not sure about GOOD nightlife in CAK, but there is certainly nightlife to be had. I think Cleveland probably has better nightlife.

I fly up to CAK all the time, I'm sure I'll be speaking to you soon.

Congrats on the job!
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I'm not sure about GOOD nightlife in CAK, but there is certainly nightlife to be had. I think Cleveland probably has better nightlife.

I fly up to CAK all the time, I'm sure I'll be speaking to you soon.

Congrats on the job!
He didnt end up coming to CAK. But if you ever get an overnight here, let me know...Always willing to meet some JC'r.

And I won't stalk you like Ethan, I promise!
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If anyone's ever in ACK... they've got a blanket invite. Just PM me to let me know when you're due in.
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He didnt end up coming to CAK. But if you ever get an overnight here, let me know...Always willing to meet some JC'r.

And I won't stalk you like Ethan, I promise!
I'll be there Saturday night, but I think it's for a short overnight. I'll let you know when I'm in for something a little longer.
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Purdue, maybe I missed it but was there any medical exam or did you just show up with a 2nd class medical?
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