Equipment Suffix

EatSleepFly · December 8th, 2006, 18:31

Do center/approach controllers have easy access to our equipment suffix? I thought it was printed up on the strip, but apparently not. Night after night, center or approach tries to clear me and other company flights to intersections when we are and always have been /A, and night after night we have to tell them "unable." What gives? Thanks!

jtrain609 · December 8th, 2006, 18:37

Weird. They don't do this to us down here. Like on the way to Vegas we're given headings almost the whole time. The controllers will says, "How about you give me 060 for now and let me know when you start recieving X VOR."

DE727UPS · December 8th, 2006, 18:44

It's on the strip. They probably aren't looking at it.

JayAre · December 8th, 2006, 20:22

Ha!
Bob kinda talked about this today in Indoc.

When do you report a DME failure?

Fox Xray · December 8th, 2006, 20:56

Most if not all centers have gone away from strips and are using URET, a computerized strip system. The equipment suffix is still displayed but along with a huge amount of other information. They may be not looking at it or your company may be filing you wrong.

dc3flyer · December 8th, 2006, 21:00

Just use your dead reckoning skills when they give you direct to somewhere. You can get real good at it!!!

exleardriver · October 19th, 2007, 11:33

i agree that they're most likely busy and not taking that extra time when they can just try and clear you direct. they understand that you, as pic, bear responsibility to refuse a clearance that you cannot accept. they figure it out when you say 'unable direct...slant alpha'. they can, of course, give you a vector clearance direct - 'fly heading xxx, direct abc vor when able'..

falconvalley · October 19th, 2007, 15:53

We get that alot when we're flying for a broken DorkJet. Get cleared to an intersection and we say "sorry, unable, we're /A today." Long pause usually followed by an apology or quick correction.

MFT1Air · October 19th, 2007, 21:38

OK, I need some help. I'm in the FAR/AIM now looking for the equipment type suffix designator information. Where might it be? I'm trying to update my aircraft equipment for DUATS/FLTPLAN/AOPA Flight Planner.

Update - Found it; the last beer affected my vision and search time.

rickyrhodesii · October 19th, 2007, 23:56

Quote:

Originally Posted by Fox Xray

They may be not looking at it or your company may be filing you wrong.

They may take a look at it...and have no idea what it means. Sad, but true!

December 8th, 2006, 18:31	#1
EatSleepFly Old Skool Join Date: Dec 2002 Location: ?? Posts: 4,600	Equipment Suffix Do center/approach controllers have easy access to our equipment suffix? I thought it was printed up on the strip, but apparently not. Night after night, center or approach tries to clear me and other company flights to intersections when we are and always have been /A, and night after night we have to tell them "unable." What gives? Thanks!

December 8th, 2006, 18:37	#2
jtrain609 Old Skool Join Date: Feb 2002 Location: Park City, UT Posts: 12,329	Re: Equipment Suffix Weird. They don't do this to us down here. Like on the way to Vegas we're given headings almost the whole time. The controllers will says, "How about you give me 060 for now and let me know when you start recieving X VOR." __________________

December 8th, 2006, 18:44	#3
DE727UPS Old Skool Join Date: Nov 2000 Location: Spokane, WA Posts: 6,544	Re: Equipment Suffix It's on the strip. They probably aren't looking at it.

December 8th, 2006, 20:22	#4
JayAre Senior Member Join Date: Apr 2001 Location: Multiple Posts: 1,020	Re: Equipment Suffix Ha! Bob kinda talked about this today in Indoc. When do you report a DME failure?

December 8th, 2006, 20:56	#5
Fox Xray ATC Join Date: Mar 2006 Posts: 436	Re: Equipment Suffix Most if not all centers have gone away from strips and are using URET, a computerized strip system. The equipment suffix is still displayed but along with a huge amount of other information. They may be not looking at it or your company may be filing you wrong.

December 8th, 2006, 21:00	#6
dc3flyer Senior Member Join Date: Aug 2006 Location: Everywhere Posts: 1,161	Re: Equipment Suffix Just use your dead reckoning skills when they give you direct to somewhere. You can get real good at it!!!

October 19th, 2007, 11:33	#7
exleardriver Senior Member Join Date: Jul 2007 Location: Little Rock, Arkansas Posts: 418	Re: Equipment Suffix i agree that they're most likely busy and not taking that extra time when they can just try and clear you direct. they understand that you, as pic, bear responsibility to refuse a clearance that you cannot accept. they figure it out when you say 'unable direct...slant alpha'. they can, of course, give you a vector clearance direct - 'fly heading xxx, direct abc vor when able'.. __________________ Gold Seal CFII, MEI, AGI, IGI, ATP, LR-Jet

October 19th, 2007, 15:53	#8
falconvalley Old Skool Join Date: Jan 2006 Location: KMKE Posts: 1,960	Re: Equipment Suffix We get that alot when we're flying for a broken DorkJet. Get cleared to an intersection and we say "sorry, unable, we're /A today." Long pause usually followed by an apology or quick correction. __________________ British Airways flight asks for push back clearance from terminal. Control Tower replies: "And where is the world's most experienced airline going today without filing a flight plan?"

October 19th, 2007, 21:38	#9
MFT1Air Senior Member Join Date: Dec 2005 Location: Clear Lake, TX Posts: 1,181	Re: Equipment Suffix OK, I need some help. I'm in the FAR/AIM now looking for the equipment type suffix designator information. Where might it be? I'm trying to update my aircraft equipment for DUATS/FLTPLAN/AOPA Flight Planner. Update - Found it; the last beer affected my vision and search time. Last edited by MFT1Air; October 19th, 2007 at 22:01.

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