what do they do?

Loki_cmr · April 22nd, 2004, 17:19

i was wondering what they check you up on when you get your physical?

probably wont be getting one of those for a couple of years, but im just a bit curious, so i asked.

DE727UPS · April 22nd, 2004, 21:00

can you bend over and cough and take it like a man?

AngelFuree · April 23rd, 2004, 13:53

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can you bend over and cough and take it like a man?

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You know...I've always heard these things before...

With all honesty though, has any AME ever done that to you though?

I've only gotten a medical once, first class, and I was pretty surprised that the guy didn't do much....

He just tested my reflexes (knee) and examined my back or something.... I don't remember too much....

However, I've seen it somewhere, the FAA site or (or some other website)....where there is a section on the examination form that says "anus"?...

Hmm......I don't know....?

Perhaps my AME didn't do a good job? Oh well, I hope he did the proper checkup. Wouldn't want to find out later on that I have a condition which could prevent me from having a first class medical. (Not that I need a first class medical at this point, but it's always good to know if you're in good shape)

ready2fly · April 23rd, 2004, 14:01

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With all honesty though, has any AME ever done that to you though?

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YES!!!!!!!

Third Class medical. I was quite violated.

Here's what mine consisted of:

hearing
sight
color/depth perception
Range of Motion
pee test
anal probe
turn your head and cough
joint palpatations

And this was for a Third Class. Thing lasted over an hour. NOW - if I'd gone ahead with the FIRST class as I had intended, God knows HOW long I would have been there. That would have included an EKG (I was 36 at the time).

I THINK I'll be choosing another AME for my next medical.

AngelFuree · April 23rd, 2004, 14:24

Yikes

Guess I was lucky then!
A nurse did the urine, hearing, sight, peripheral vision, color, weight, and height tests.
The AME only checked me like for 5 short minutes as described above.

Yep, "violated" is the word, heh heh...

Thank god I didn't undergo that! Egh...
Do you think it was perhaps because of my age (17)? I know he's NOT SUPPOSED to use that when carrying out the examination (well except the EKG) but I'm thinking he found it a bit unnecessary...? What are your thoughts?

AirborneMedic_ANGa10 · April 23rd, 2004, 21:15

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joint palpatations

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Hmmm....that makey no sense.

Perhaps you mean palpation (touching/feeling). i.e. Palpate your carotid pulse.

Two medical terms which are close in spelling, but not in definition.

junior · April 26th, 2004, 10:38

Do they test for DRUGS in your pee?
I don't see it in the FARs

kellwolf · April 26th, 2004, 10:59

I'm sure they do. It's in the FARs that you can't be under the influence of illegal substances. I think if you show up stoned for your medical, they'll go ahead and assume you would show up stoned for a flight. I think they MAY screen for prescription meds that are prohibited, just in case you don't declare them on the form.

mtsu_av8er · April 26th, 2004, 18:50

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Do they test for DRUGS in your pee?

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Nope! That would be against the law!!!! And, boy, would I love to sue a doctor for testing for drugs without my permission!!!!

ready2fly · April 27th, 2004, 08:20

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Do they test for DRUGS in your pee?

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MTSU is correct.... but...

Here's a little unsolicited advice: <font color="red">Don't do drugs and you won't get caught! </font> [/unsolicited advice]

AirborneMedic_ANGa10 · April 27th, 2004, 10:29

They test for stuff like blood, bacteria, protein, and ketones.

Doug Taylor · April 28th, 2004, 01:37

The flight physicians don't, but your employer absolutely without a doubt WILL -- and repeatedly!

Don't do drugs and expect to fly airplanes for a living because when you're eventually caught, they'll have no mercy on you.

I know a person that went to a regional, decided to 'toke up' one weekend and take part in a procedure that urban legend says will mask the traces of drug use and got a test a few weeks later when he was in new hire ground school.

Needless to say, he's out of a job and may have had his licenses revoked as well. And with the drug-oriented revocation on his airman record, he probably can't even get a job driving a truck.

The FAA doesn't 'play', nor do any employers when it comes to drug use.

junior · April 28th, 2004, 10:33

whew thats a relief because I've been on a cocaine binge for about 2 weeks now.

actually I was having a discussion with a few people at my flight school and we were curious if they tested for drugs or not. so I thought JC would be a great place to find they answer.
thanks

kellwolf · April 28th, 2004, 11:00

Dude, you can afford flight training AND cocaine? You must sell the good stuff on the side.

junior · April 28th, 2004, 12:45

lol

April 22nd, 2004, 17:19	#1
Loki_cmr Newbie Join Date: Apr 2004 Location: California Bay Area Posts: 4	what do they do? i was wondering what they check you up on when you get your physical? probably wont be getting one of those for a couple of years, but im just a bit curious, so i asked.

April 22nd, 2004, 21:00	#2
DE727UPS Old Skool Join Date: Nov 2000 Location: Spokane, WA Posts: 6,544	Re: what do they do? can you bend over and cough and take it like a man?

April 23rd, 2004, 13:53	#3
AngelFuree Old Skool Join Date: Mar 2004 Location: G-Forks, ND/ NYC Posts: 3,201	Re: what do they do? [ QUOTE ] can you bend over and cough and take it like a man? [/ QUOTE ] You know...I've always heard these things before... With all honesty though, has any AME ever done that to you though? I've only gotten a medical once, first class, and I was pretty surprised that the guy didn't do much.... He just tested my reflexes (knee) and examined my back or something.... I don't remember too much.... However, I've seen it somewhere, the FAA site or (or some other website)....where there is a section on the examination form that says "anus"?... Hmm......I don't know....? Perhaps my AME didn't do a good job? Oh well, I hope he did the proper checkup. Wouldn't want to find out later on that I have a condition which could prevent me from having a first class medical. (Not that I need a first class medical at this point, but it's always good to know if you're in good shape)

April 23rd, 2004, 14:01	#4
ready2fly Old Skool Join Date: Nov 2001 Location: DFW Posts: 7,182	Re: what do they do? [ QUOTE ] With all honesty though, has any AME ever done that to you though? [/ QUOTE ] YES!!!!!!! Third Class medical. I was quite violated. Here's what mine consisted of: hearing sight color/depth perception Range of Motion pee test anal probe turn your head and cough joint palpatations And this was for a Third Class. Thing lasted over an hour. NOW - if I'd gone ahead with the FIRST class as I had intended, God knows HOW long I would have been there. That would have included an EKG (I was 36 at the time). I THINK I'll be choosing another AME for my next medical.

April 23rd, 2004, 14:24	#5
AngelFuree Old Skool Join Date: Mar 2004 Location: G-Forks, ND/ NYC Posts: 3,201	Re: what do they do? Yikes Guess I was lucky then! A nurse did the urine, hearing, sight, peripheral vision, color, weight, and height tests. The AME only checked me like for 5 short minutes as described above. Yep, "violated" is the word, heh heh... Thank god I didn't undergo that! Egh... Do you think it was perhaps because of my age (17)? I know he's NOT SUPPOSED to use that when carrying out the examination (well except the EKG) but I'm thinking he found it a bit unnecessary...? What are your thoughts?

April 23rd, 2004, 21:15	#6
AirborneMedic_ANGa10 Junior Member Join Date: Nov 2001 Location: DFW Posts: 213	Re: what do they do? [ QUOTE ] joint palpatations [/ QUOTE ] Hmmm....that makey no sense. Perhaps you mean palpation (touching/feeling). i.e. Palpate your carotid pulse. Two medical terms which are close in spelling, but not in definition.

April 26th, 2004, 10:38	#7
junior Senior Member Join Date: May 2002 Location: CO Posts: 427	Re: what do they do? Do they test for DRUGS in your pee? I don't see it in the FARs

April 26th, 2004, 10:59	#8
kellwolf Old Skool Join Date: Jun 2003 Location: Memphis, TN Posts: 13,831	Re: what do they do? I'm sure they do. It's in the FARs that you can't be under the influence of illegal substances. I think if you show up stoned for your medical, they'll go ahead and assume you would show up stoned for a flight. I think they MAY screen for prescription meds that are prohibited, just in case you don't declare them on the form.

April 26th, 2004, 18:50	#9
mtsu_av8er Old Skool Join Date: Dec 2002 Location: Utopia Posts: 12,564	Re: what do they do? [ QUOTE ] Do they test for DRUGS in your pee? [/ QUOTE ] Nope! That would be against the law!!!! And, boy, would I love to sue a doctor for testing for drugs without my permission!!!!

April 27th, 2004, 08:20	#10
ready2fly Old Skool Join Date: Nov 2001 Location: DFW Posts: 7,182	Re: what do they do? [ QUOTE ] Do they test for DRUGS in your pee? [/ QUOTE ] MTSU is correct.... but... Here's a little unsolicited advice: <font color="red">Don't do drugs and you won't get caught! </font> [/unsolicited advice]

April 27th, 2004, 10:29	#11
AirborneMedic_ANGa10 Junior Member Join Date: Nov 2001 Location: DFW Posts: 213	Re: what do they do? They test for stuff like blood, bacteria, protein, and ketones.

April 28th, 2004, 01:37	#12
Doug Taylor Agent Smith Join Date: Dec 1969 Location: KSDL Posts: 41,084 Blog Entries: 1	Re: what do they do? The flight physicians don't, but your employer absolutely without a doubt WILL -- and repeatedly! Don't do drugs and expect to fly airplanes for a living because when you're eventually caught, they'll have no mercy on you. I know a person that went to a regional, decided to 'toke up' one weekend and take part in a procedure that urban legend says will mask the traces of drug use and got a test a few weeks later when he was in new hire ground school. Needless to say, he's out of a job and may have had his licenses revoked as well. And with the drug-oriented revocation on his airman record, he probably can't even get a job driving a truck. The FAA doesn't 'play', nor do any employers when it comes to drug use.

April 28th, 2004, 10:33	#13
junior Senior Member Join Date: May 2002 Location: CO Posts: 427	Re: what do they do? whew thats a relief because I've been on a cocaine binge for about 2 weeks now. actually I was having a discussion with a few people at my flight school and we were curious if they tested for drugs or not. so I thought JC would be a great place to find they answer. thanks

April 28th, 2004, 11:00	#14
kellwolf Old Skool Join Date: Jun 2003 Location: Memphis, TN Posts: 13,831	Re: what do they do? Dude, you can afford flight training AND cocaine? You must sell the good stuff on the side.

April 28th, 2004, 12:45	#15
junior Senior Member Join Date: May 2002 Location: CO Posts: 427	Re: what do they do? lol

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