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May 25th, 2007, 18:53
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| Agent Smith  |  Melatonin
Dr. Forred- I looked at the Melatonin and it looks like it's "Nature's Bounty" Melatonin where each pill has 3mg per. However, I think you said the study found that a dosage of about 6mg was suggested however the directions say not to exceed 3mg in a 24 hour period. Is a 6mg dose kosher?
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May 25th, 2007, 20:54
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Yes, the 6 mg is worth a try. The studies were done with this dose and since it is not a long-term chronic thing I think 6 mg is OK. It has helped air crews going to Europe sleep in the studies that were performed. Let me know how it works for you  |
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May 25th, 2007, 21:37
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When I flew for the USAF it worked great for me! And you don't wake up with that "drugged" feeling like you do with standard sleeping pills.
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May 26th, 2007, 00:31
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| Old Skool  Join Date: Sep 2001 Location: Inside your OODA loop
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I've used melatonin as a sleep aid occasionally over the past couple years after learning about it from a friend to travels to China on business regularly, and it does indeed work as advertised!
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May 26th, 2007, 01:05
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Those time zones gettin' to ya? I tried melatonin and it did nothing for me. I want to try ambien cause the TV commercials are cool. Also, I hear it works.
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May 26th, 2007, 01:45
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| Agent Smith | Re: Melatonin
Rounding home plate on arrival to CVG, it was "Honest" Abe, a talking beaver and a guy in a deep sea diving outfit sitting in the corner of the cockpit.
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May 26th, 2007, 03:01
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Ambien is disqualifying if you use it on a layover - it sticks around too long in the system.
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May 26th, 2007, 08:28
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Wife named it the "magic pill" a few years ago. Boy does that little magic pill work. Occasionally, however, it makes me have some of the most vivid and crazy dreams that I've ever had in my life. The 'ole toss up between no sleep vs. crazy dreams.....think I can live with the crazy dreams. 
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May 26th, 2007, 08:41
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May 26th, 2007, 10:35
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May 26th, 2007, 19:57
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What about using Sonata. It's short acting, is that allowed by the FAA. I couldn't make heads or tails of their website
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May 26th, 2007, 20:12
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No it is not. They do not allow any of the prescription sleeping pills.
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May 27th, 2007, 01:29
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Probably for good reason too. Whenever I take a non "non-drowsy" cold medication, I'm literally a zombie for 48 hours so I don't take them at all. Some of it will make me hallucinate as well so I steer clear of most cold medications, including the non-drowsy types. 5 to 7 days without treatment... About a week without...
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May 27th, 2007, 02:44
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May 27th, 2007, 02:47
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| Agent Smith | Re: Melatonin
Actifed's like LSD to me. Seriously. Offtopic: The Sunrise isn't all that bad!
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May 27th, 2007, 02:50
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May 27th, 2007, 02:52
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| Agent Smith | Re: Melatonin
Will do!
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May 27th, 2007, 02:56
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Why are you still up??!!? Go to bed, you have to work tomorrow! Kevin |
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May 27th, 2007, 03:12
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May 27th, 2007, 10:00
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Dextromethorphan - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia It's the good ####. Man. Seekrit hidden apology for using the S-word. But it's in context  | |
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May 27th, 2007, 13:10
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This is probably a stupid question, but is Melatonin something that needs to be disclosed on a medical?
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May 27th, 2007, 15:46
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Yes, you should list it.
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May 27th, 2007, 18:39
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May 27th, 2007, 20:52
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Melatonin over the counter is from Cow brains. Is there any concern of mad cow? I use the stuff occasionally as well and I too have pretty vivid dreams. |
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May 27th, 2007, 21:39
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It may be from cow brains but read further here. Sources of Melatonin Melatonin is present in all living organisms, including microalgae (green algae), bacteria, fungi, plants, small crustaceans (certain prawns and crayfish), fish, animals, and humans.163 Natural sources of melatonin, not standardized to provide a defined concentration, and with possible contaminants, also include medicinal plants such as feverfew (Tanacetum parthenium), St. John’s wort (Hypericum perforatum), and huang-qin (Scutellaria baicalensis),122,164 sometimes reaching levels of several nanograms per gram165 and possibly contributing to the therapeutic efficacy of the respective herbs. High melatonin concentrations are found in seeds and some fruits such as tart cherries, bananas, and tomatoes.166,167 Melatonin also is found in food sources such as oats, rice bran, sweet corn, wheatgrass juice, and ginger. It has been shown that dietary melatonin (from plant sources) directly elevates the circulating level of melatonin in the body. I doubt many of the products list hte source of the melatonin. It would certainly be less expensive to produce from plants. |
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