What should I do?...eye issue.

ILSstud · July 19th, 2004, 14:10

Well I've been putting in some thought to the condition I have with my eyes....and it doesn't make me too terribly happy. Anyway basically when I was younger I had a cross eye and had to wear a patch to correct it until I was like 13. Anyway that eye is now very much strengthened, but with corrective lenses, it can only be corrected to 20/25. In both eyes collectively I am 20/20...but I have gone to several really good eye doctors in Florida, and they can only seem to get the correction with glasses in my right eye down to 20/25. All the pilot friends I have say do not get a waiver (i.e. a SODA waiver) unless I have exhausted all other means. So what should I do? Somehow I've been able to get classII medicals three times even though the regs say 20/20 in each eye individually.
Thanx

kellwolf · July 19th, 2004, 18:51

My last medical exam he just checked my vision in both eyes. Honestly, I don't think I've ever had each eye checked individually, and I've gotten a 1st class both times.

Doug Taylor · July 19th, 2004, 21:26

Lemme guess. Amblyopia?

I have the same thing. But you can't tell them I'm an amblyope unless I've had way too much Jaegermeister as Pilot602, Mavamb1 and MikeD have experienced.

20/15 in the left eye and about 20/25 in the right eye, but I'm usually able to squeeze out reading 20/20.

I did have a medical flight waiver for a class two for a few years, but I learned that if you (squint)^2, you can usually read the 20/20 line.

ILSstud · July 19th, 2004, 23:03

I'll try it on my next medical...thanx Doug!
BTW i have to say THANX for such a great site...it's my new internet hangout :-)

Doug Taylor · July 19th, 2004, 23:05

Mine too. It's about all I do these days!

JC1188 · July 30th, 2004, 22:56

[ QUOTE ]
Lemme guess. Amblyopia?

I have the same thing. But you can't tell them I'm an amblyope unless I've had way too much Jaegermeister as Pilot602, Mavamb1 and MikeD have experienced.

20/15 in the left eye and about 20/25 in the right eye, but I'm usually able to squeeze out reading 20/20.

I did have a medical flight waiver for a class two for a few years, but I learned that if you (squint)^2, you can usually read the 20/20 line.

[/ QUOTE ]

Doug,

What don't you have! Heart Murmors, Amblyopia...Your an inspiration to us all!

kellwolf · July 30th, 2004, 23:07

[ QUOTE ]
What don't you have! Heart Murmors, Amblyopia...Your an inspiration to us all!

[/ QUOTE ]

Sounds like Frankenstein's monster with a first class medical.....

Bandit_Driver · August 4th, 2004, 22:55

Doug Great Pic....
Must be nice to have an easy eye test. I have get form 8500-14 filled out everytime for glaucoma in order to get my 1st Class with no restrictions....That eye test sucks and takes about an 1 hour. [img]/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/banghead.gif[/img]

Cosmo1999 · August 5th, 2004, 01:24

you can always take a line from the space cowboys and memorize that eye chart as you walk in the room [img]/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/grin.gif[/img]

Bandit_Driver · August 5th, 2004, 09:35

Good Idea but unfortunately more and more doctors are using that damn computer that random displays letters on a mirror.

CaptChris · August 5th, 2004, 13:49

Doug,

How is the physical at Delta similar/different to that of a normal AME's 1st class? Are they pretty tough?

Chris

Tim · August 5th, 2004, 15:17

With that pic Doug I bet you gave your momma all she could handle when you were little...The woman must be a Saint [img]/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/smile.gif[/img]

Doug Taylor · August 5th, 2004, 16:13

[ QUOTE ]
What don't you have! Heart Murmors, Amblyopia...Your an inspiration to us all!

[/ QUOTE ]

Oh, and I was a childhood stutterer so I went thru a couple of speech therapy when I was in preschool/kindergarten.

Believe me, I've been told "No you can't do it" my entire life by a variety of people for years for a plethora of reasons! [img]/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/smile.gif[/img]

I figured I'd try to give something back to the aviation community to honor those folks that helped me out and the one-finger salute to those that said I couldn't do it.

There's probably more, but I'm sure I've shared enough!

Doug Taylor · August 5th, 2004, 16:17

[ QUOTE ]
How is the physical at Delta similar/different to that of a normal AME's 1st class? Are they pretty tough?

[/ QUOTE ]

I hate to say it, but I fogged the mirror when they held it up to my nostrils, so I passed.

However, they did take an UNGODLY amount of blood and did three individual MMPI's (MN Multiphase Personality Inventory Testing) and I sat in the comfortable happy chair in a happy place with a Dr. Vanderplatt, a psychaitrist, for a 40 minute conversation laden with 'interesting' questions.

ready2fly · August 5th, 2004, 16:35

[ QUOTE ]
Believe me, I've been told "No you can't do it" my entire life by a variety of people for years for a plethora of reasons!

[/ QUOTE ]
Ditto here, Doug.

My high school guidance "councilor" actually said... and I quote:

<font color="blue">I wouldn't even think about going to college. You're just not college material. </font>

Almost make me wish the old bat were still alive so that I could mail her a copy of my TWO college diplomas. [img]/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/smirk.gif[/img]

jtrain609 · August 5th, 2004, 16:47

Seriously. I almost got axed by asthma as a kid. It was so bad I was diagnosed with CF three times. Now? I hold a first class medical with no restrictions. I swam for 8 years in high school. I'm in a Div. IA college marching band. Teachers told me I couldn't do it, parents still don't think I can pull it off as a profession (my Mom thinks I'm going to get myself killed), but that ain't gonna stop me.

And you know why? BECAUSE OF JETCAREERS.COM, THAT'S WHY!

[/cheese]

Doug Taylor · August 5th, 2004, 18:17

Cheese is good!

I'm married to a Wisconsinite.

Tell your folks that I know a widebody captain with Asthma... But you know, it's on the 'down low' [img]/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/smile.gif[/img]

jtrain609 · August 5th, 2004, 18:55

I've talked with some other guys that fly for mainline carriers and they all say they know a few folks that have asthma. The biggest problem with the condition (it's a condition, not a disese BTW, most people don't know that) is the drugs that come with it to keep you maintained. They're all FAA approved, but man was it a pain to shove it through the first time. For some reason people think that if you have asthma you could die at any second. The last time I really stopped breathing was when I was about 2-3. Since then I've managed to swim 5,000 meters in a day and go out and play in my rock band later that night.

Don't let anyone tell you that you can't do what you want do is right.

July 19th, 2004, 14:10	#1
ILSstud Senior Member Join Date: Nov 2003 Location: Atlanta, GA Posts: 613	What should I do?...eye issue. Well I've been putting in some thought to the condition I have with my eyes....and it doesn't make me too terribly happy. Anyway basically when I was younger I had a cross eye and had to wear a patch to correct it until I was like 13. Anyway that eye is now very much strengthened, but with corrective lenses, it can only be corrected to 20/25. In both eyes collectively I am 20/20...but I have gone to several really good eye doctors in Florida, and they can only seem to get the correction with glasses in my right eye down to 20/25. All the pilot friends I have say do not get a waiver (i.e. a SODA waiver) unless I have exhausted all other means. So what should I do? Somehow I've been able to get classII medicals three times even though the regs say 20/20 in each eye individually. Thanx

July 19th, 2004, 18:51	#2
kellwolf Old Skool Join Date: Jun 2003 Location: Memphis, TN Posts: 13,863	Re: What should I do?...eye issue. My last medical exam he just checked my vision in both eyes. Honestly, I don't think I've ever had each eye checked individually, and I've gotten a 1st class both times.

July 19th, 2004, 21:26	#3
Doug Taylor Agent Smith Join Date: Dec 1969 Location: KSDL Posts: 41,193 Blog Entries: 1	Re: What should I do?...eye issue. Lemme guess. Amblyopia? I have the same thing. But you can't tell them I'm an amblyope unless I've had way too much Jaegermeister as Pilot602, Mavamb1 and MikeD have experienced. 20/15 in the left eye and about 20/25 in the right eye, but I'm usually able to squeeze out reading 20/20. I did have a medical flight waiver for a class two for a few years, but I learned that if you (squint)^2, you can usually read the 20/20 line.

July 19th, 2004, 23:03	#4
ILSstud Senior Member Join Date: Nov 2003 Location: Atlanta, GA Posts: 613	Re: What should I do?...eye issue. I'll try it on my next medical...thanx Doug! BTW i have to say THANX for such a great site...it's my new internet hangout :-)

July 19th, 2004, 23:05	#5
Doug Taylor Agent Smith Join Date: Dec 1969 Location: KSDL Posts: 41,193 Blog Entries: 1	Re: What should I do?...eye issue. Mine too. It's about all I do these days!

July 30th, 2004, 22:56	#6
JC1188 Senior Member Join Date: Apr 2004 Location: Texas Posts: 303	Re: What should I do?...eye issue. [ QUOTE ] Lemme guess. Amblyopia? I have the same thing. But you can't tell them I'm an amblyope unless I've had way too much Jaegermeister as Pilot602, Mavamb1 and MikeD have experienced. 20/15 in the left eye and about 20/25 in the right eye, but I'm usually able to squeeze out reading 20/20. I did have a medical flight waiver for a class two for a few years, but I learned that if you (squint)^2, you can usually read the 20/20 line. [/ QUOTE ] Doug, What don't you have! Heart Murmors, Amblyopia...Your an inspiration to us all!

July 30th, 2004, 23:07	#7
kellwolf Old Skool Join Date: Jun 2003 Location: Memphis, TN Posts: 13,863	Re: What should I do?...eye issue. [ QUOTE ] What don't you have! Heart Murmors, Amblyopia...Your an inspiration to us all! [/ QUOTE ] Sounds like Frankenstein's monster with a first class medical.....

August 4th, 2004, 22:55	#8
Bandit_Driver Old Skool Join Date: Oct 2003 Location: DTW Posts: 1,798	Re: What should I do?...eye issue. Doug Great Pic.... Must be nice to have an easy eye test. I have get form 8500-14 filled out everytime for glaucoma in order to get my 1st Class with no restrictions....That eye test sucks and takes about an 1 hour. [img]/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/banghead.gif[/img]

August 5th, 2004, 01:24	#9
Cosmo1999 Junior Member Join Date: Sep 2003 Posts: 247	Re: What should I do?...eye issue. you can always take a line from the space cowboys and memorize that eye chart as you walk in the room [img]/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/grin.gif[/img]

August 5th, 2004, 09:35	#10
Bandit_Driver Old Skool Join Date: Oct 2003 Location: DTW Posts: 1,798	Re: What should I do?...eye issue. Good Idea but unfortunately more and more doctors are using that damn computer that random displays letters on a mirror.

August 5th, 2004, 13:49	#11
CaptChris Senior Member Join Date: Jul 2004 Location: Richmond, VA Posts: 549	Re: Doug---Delta Physicals? Doug, How is the physical at Delta similar/different to that of a normal AME's 1st class? Are they pretty tough? Chris

August 5th, 2004, 15:17	#12
Tim Old Skool Join Date: Apr 2003 Location: Atlanta Posts: 2,205	Re: What should I do?...eye issue. With that pic Doug I bet you gave your momma all she could handle when you were little...The woman must be a Saint [img]/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/smile.gif[/img]

August 5th, 2004, 16:13	#13
Doug Taylor Agent Smith Join Date: Dec 1969 Location: KSDL Posts: 41,193 Blog Entries: 1	Re: What should I do?...eye issue. [ QUOTE ] What don't you have! Heart Murmors, Amblyopia...Your an inspiration to us all! [/ QUOTE ] Oh, and I was a childhood stutterer so I went thru a couple of speech therapy when I was in preschool/kindergarten. Believe me, I've been told "No you can't do it" my entire life by a variety of people for years for a plethora of reasons! [img]/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/smile.gif[/img] I figured I'd try to give something back to the aviation community to honor those folks that helped me out and the one-finger salute to those that said I couldn't do it. There's probably more, but I'm sure I've shared enough!

August 5th, 2004, 16:17	#14
Doug Taylor Agent Smith Join Date: Dec 1969 Location: KSDL Posts: 41,193 Blog Entries: 1	Re: Doug---Delta Physicals? [ QUOTE ] How is the physical at Delta similar/different to that of a normal AME's 1st class? Are they pretty tough? [/ QUOTE ] I hate to say it, but I fogged the mirror when they held it up to my nostrils, so I passed. However, they did take an UNGODLY amount of blood and did three individual MMPI's (MN Multiphase Personality Inventory Testing) and I sat in the comfortable happy chair in a happy place with a Dr. Vanderplatt, a psychaitrist, for a 40 minute conversation laden with 'interesting' questions.

August 5th, 2004, 16:35	#15
ready2fly Old Skool Join Date: Nov 2001 Location: DFW Posts: 7,182	Re: What should I do?...eye issue. [ QUOTE ] Believe me, I've been told "No you can't do it" my entire life by a variety of people for years for a plethora of reasons! [/ QUOTE ] Ditto here, Doug. My high school guidance "councilor" actually said... and I quote: <font color="blue">I wouldn't even think about going to college. You're just not college material. </font> Almost make me wish the old bat were still alive so that I could mail her a copy of my TWO college diplomas. [img]/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/smirk.gif[/img]

August 5th, 2004, 16:47	#16
jtrain609 Old Skool Join Date: Feb 2002 Location: Park City, UT Posts: 12,345	Re: What should I do?...eye issue. Seriously. I almost got axed by asthma as a kid. It was so bad I was diagnosed with CF three times. Now? I hold a first class medical with no restrictions. I swam for 8 years in high school. I'm in a Div. IA college marching band. Teachers told me I couldn't do it, parents still don't think I can pull it off as a profession (my Mom thinks I'm going to get myself killed), but that ain't gonna stop me. And you know why? BECAUSE OF JETCAREERS.COM, THAT'S WHY! [/cheese]

August 5th, 2004, 18:17	#17
Doug Taylor Agent Smith Join Date: Dec 1969 Location: KSDL Posts: 41,193 Blog Entries: 1	Re: What should I do?...eye issue. Cheese is good! I'm married to a Wisconsinite. Tell your folks that I know a widebody captain with Asthma... But you know, it's on the 'down low' [img]/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/smile.gif[/img]

August 5th, 2004, 18:55	#18
jtrain609 Old Skool Join Date: Feb 2002 Location: Park City, UT Posts: 12,345	Re: What should I do?...eye issue. I've talked with some other guys that fly for mainline carriers and they all say they know a few folks that have asthma. The biggest problem with the condition (it's a condition, not a disese BTW, most people don't know that) is the drugs that come with it to keep you maintained. They're all FAA approved, but man was it a pain to shove it through the first time. For some reason people think that if you have asthma you could die at any second. The last time I really stopped breathing was when I was about 2-3. Since then I've managed to swim 5,000 meters in a day and go out and play in my rock band later that night. Don't let anyone tell you that you can't do what you want do is right.

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