Offical PUBNAT 8 is OUT

Diamnd15 · July 6th, 2009, 03:27

http://jobs.faa.gov/asap_detail.asp?vac_id=111525

CubPilot84 · July 6th, 2009, 04:12

Very cool. As planned except I don't see the expected format for Geoprefs. I thought there were only going to be 2 but it still gives the whole 10. In a new format I noticed so I wonder what their plans are for that... Whatever the case hopefully it's an honest attempt to speed that part of the process up.

WoH · July 6th, 2009, 04:37

AHHHHHHHHHHHHHH!

Do I pick a couple states and list all the cities I wanna go!? Or do I pick 10 States!?

WoH · July 6th, 2009, 04:54

Also...Boston ARTCC is listed as Boston, Mass. on the FAA site, but it's actually in New Hampshire....

I wanna go there...which state do I put?

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BigBOSS · July 6th, 2009, 07:34

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Originally Posted by WoH

Also...Boston ARTCC is listed as Boston, Mass. on the FAA site, but it's actually in New Hampshire....

I wanna go there...which state do I put?

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These 10 states you pick on the App don't mean . It's all about the Geo Prefs, so basically just get a globe, spin it, and stick your finger somewhere and list that.

ladiesolo · July 6th, 2009, 09:28

Actually....it's asking specifically for the name of counties I'd like to work and also what position (Terminal or enroute)...

ProudPilot · July 6th, 2009, 11:04

Done and Done... Applied. Goodbye CFI pay... in about 1-4 years depending on geoprefs.

Bsmiller05 · July 6th, 2009, 11:48

Well...I'm all done with the application. Hopefully I won't "need" 8, and I'll be getting my geopref email for 7 in a few weeks!

Fingers crossed, and waiting...as usual.

KT430 · July 6th, 2009, 11:50

When filling out the 10 state portion, do you just randomly select 10 states?

Ironsides70 · July 6th, 2009, 12:07

Done. I just hope the ATC gods are good to me and won't make me wait for 8 to get going.

greg1016 · July 6th, 2009, 12:31

I would just put "Throughout the Nation" in those 10 places

Teller1900 · July 6th, 2009, 12:34

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Originally Posted by greg1016

I would just put "Throughout the Nation" in those 10 places

The directions on the first page say to put "United States - Throughout the Nation," as the actual GeoPrefs will come later in the process.

RdRunnr12 · July 6th, 2009, 12:50

Anyone notice this? Current pay scale starts at $33700, if you add locality it would be higher than the figure listed below. Makes me think this could be a hint of a new, new hire pay scale. Any thoughts?

From the Announcement:

Upon successful completion of the Academy initial training program & other employment requirements, you will continue your training at your assigned facility on a permanent appointment with a salary between $37,463 and $43,867.

SFCC/UND · July 6th, 2009, 12:55

Keeping my fingers and toes crossed.

ladiesolo · July 6th, 2009, 13:05

Quote:

Originally Posted by RdRunnr12

Anyone notice this? Current pay scale starts at $33700, if you add locality it would be higher than the figure listed below. Makes me think this could be a hint of a new, new hire pay scale. Any thoughts?

From the Announcement:

Upon successful completion of the Academy initial training program & other employment requirements, you will continue your training at your assigned facility on a permanent appointment with a salary between $37,463 and $43,867.

Sorry, I just checked, PUBNAT 7 says the same thing...

greg1016 · July 6th, 2009, 13:41

That salary range is the base $33,700 plus the minimum locality percentage and the maximum locality percentage. That will be your pay when you report to your facility under the current pay scale

jcpilot · July 6th, 2009, 13:52

Assuming that all the figures in the ATC Pay sticky are correct, then the starting salary range should be from $38,370 to $45,276. These figures assume the base rate of $33,700 with the minimum being the 'Rest of U.S.' locality rate of 13.86%, and the max being the San Fransisco locality rate of 34.35%

ShyFlyer · July 6th, 2009, 14:11

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Your application for announcement # AAC-AMH-09-PUBNAT8-12162 has been received. Please check back after the announcement closes for status updates.

Yay for more waiting!

Of course, no matter what, in six months my waiting will end, when I hit the dreaded 31.

CubPilot84 · July 6th, 2009, 14:48

It's very contradicting because on the front page it says just put United States and Throughout the Nation then on the 2nd tab of the app it asks what specific counties you would like to work in

Might need to meditate on what to do about this

maschmi2 · July 6th, 2009, 15:33

The very first page of the application is the "Geographic Preferences" page. I don't even see a "Throughout the US" option, otherwise I would choose it. There are options for Duty Location's 1 through 10. For each you can choose a State and City. I just listed the three states I'm interested in, and for city chose "Throughout the State". I left the other seven duty location options blank. On the next page where it asks us to put specific counties in the state we're interested in, I'm just going to leave it blank. Thoughts?

ProudPilot · July 6th, 2009, 15:54

Scroll down the list of states. Near the bottom is says: United States. Choose that, then the second list will become "Throughout the Nation." Leave it as that.

You will be able to pick geoprefs at a later date. Right now it really doesn't matter what you apply to. Here's the catch, they might see this as a mini-test if you can read directions correctly as the directions on the PUBNAT says to do this.

I really don't think it matters but that's how you do it.

Bigey · July 6th, 2009, 16:05

Wait, isnt this the first time that it asks for which positions you're willing to work (i.e. Terminal or Enroute).

I wasnt able to find in the application that it says to apply "throughout the nation" ...

And i just got off the phone with Aviation Careers and they said to go ahead and list the locations on the applications now? Since they're trying to get rid of the Geo-Pref Email.

ShyFlyer · July 6th, 2009, 16:09

Quote:

Originally Posted by ProudPilot

Scroll down the list of states. Near the bottom is says: United States. Choose that, then the second list will become "Throughout the Nation." Leave it as that.

You will be able to pick geoprefs at a later date. Right now it really doesn't matter what you apply to. Here's the catch, they might see this as a mini-test if you can read directions correctly as the directions on the PUBNAT says to do this.

I really don't think it matters but that's how you do it.

Just be careful not to select the United Arab Emirates.

WoH · July 6th, 2009, 16:16

I also cannot find that instruction

Is it on the job description?

Bigey · July 6th, 2009, 16:18

Quote:

Originally Posted by WoH

I also cannot find that instruction

Is it on the job description?

It used to be, i just seem to not be able to find it now? Maybe it's still too early.

July 6th, 2009, 03:27	#1
Diamnd15 Senior Member Join Date: Sep 2005 Location: SF Bay Area, Cali Posts: 345	Offical PUBNAT 8 is OUT http://jobs.faa.gov/asap_detail.asp?vac_id=111525

July 6th, 2009, 04:12	#2
CubPilot84 Junior Member Join Date: May 2009 Location: Puyallup, WA Posts: 51	Re: Offical PUBNAT 8 is OUT Very cool. As planned except I don't see the expected format for Geoprefs. I thought there were only going to be 2 but it still gives the whole 10. In a new format I noticed so I wonder what their plans are for that... Whatever the case hopefully it's an honest attempt to speed that part of the process up. __________________ -Travis 2nd Year CTI Student 12/16/2008 PUBNAT 7 06/08/2009 AT-SAT (SEA) 06/09/2009 AT-SAT 96.8 06/06/2009 PUBNAT 8

July 6th, 2009, 04:37	#3
WoH Senior Member Join Date: Dec 2008 Location: Long Beach Posts: 410	Re: Offical PUBNAT 8 is OUT AHHHHHHHHHHHHHH! Do I pick a couple states and list all the cities I wanna go!? Or do I pick 10 States!?

July 6th, 2009, 04:54	#4
WoH Senior Member Join Date: Dec 2008 Location: Long Beach Posts: 410	Re: Offical PUBNAT 8 is OUT Also...Boston ARTCC is listed as Boston, Mass. on the FAA site, but it's actually in New Hampshire.... I wanna go there...which state do I put? AHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHH HHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHH! Last edited by WoH; July 6th, 2009 at 05:25.

July 6th, 2009, 09:28	#6
ladiesolo Junior Member Join Date: Jun 2009 Location: Western NY Posts: 57	Re: Offical PUBNAT 8 is OUT Actually....it's asking specifically for the name of counties I'd like to work and also what position (Terminal or enroute)... __________________ 12/16/08 PUBNAT7 06/29/09 AT-SAT(BWI) 07/01/09 WQ 07/06/09 PUBNAT8 08/07/09 PUBNAT7 GeoPref (NY & SC) 10/21/09 Referral List (PUBNAT7)

July 6th, 2009, 11:04	#7
ProudPilot Senior Member Join Date: Apr 2008 Location: Grand Forks, ND Posts: 442	Re: Offical PUBNAT 8 is OUT Done and Done... Applied. Goodbye CFI pay... in about 1-4 years depending on geoprefs. __________________ 7/6/2009 PUBNAT8 11/13/2009 ATSAT St Charles, IL 11/18/2009 ATSAT 85.3 Last edited by ProudPilot; July 6th, 2009 at 15:00.

July 6th, 2009, 11:48	#8
Bsmiller05 Junior Member Join Date: Jan 2008 Location: ATL/PDK Posts: 58	Re: Offical PUBNAT 8 is OUT Well...I'm all done with the application. Hopefully I won't "need" 8, and I'll be getting my geopref email for 7 in a few weeks! Fingers crossed, and waiting...as usual. __________________ 12/09/08 - PUBNAT 7 03/19/09 - AT-SAT Authorized 06/08/09 - AT-SAT Test Date 06/10/09 - WQ 07/06/09 - PUBNAT 8 07/24/09 - Geo Pref for 7 (GA, FL) 10/21/09 - PUB7 Referral List

July 6th, 2009, 11:50	#9
KT430 Junior Member Join Date: Feb 2009 Location: SLC Posts: 71	Re: Offical PUBNAT 8 is OUT When filling out the 10 state portion, do you just randomly select 10 states?

July 6th, 2009, 12:07	#10
Ironsides70 Junior Member Join Date: Jul 2008 Location: Odenton, MD Posts: 36	Re: Offical PUBNAT 8 is OUT Done. I just hope the ATC gods are good to me and won't make me wait for 8 to get going. __________________ PUB4/7/8 Applicant (missed 5/6) 6/2008 Applied PUB4 9/2008 AT-SAT- 92.7 WQ 11/2008 Geo-Pref-NE/MD 12/2008 Applied PUB7 1/2009 Picked up for OMA-declined/moving to MD 7/2009 Applied PUB8

July 6th, 2009, 12:31	#11
greg1016 Junior Member Join Date: Apr 2009 Location: Allentown, PA Posts: 294	Re: Offical PUBNAT 8 is OUT I would just put "Throughout the Nation" in those 10 places __________________ 8/29/08: Pubnat 6 1/9/09: AT-SAT (94.6, WQ) 3/27/09: GeoPrefs 6/2/09: SELECTED ZNY 6/19/09 Interview at ZNY 7/1 ATL PEPC Invite 7/10 TOL in hand ZNY

July 6th, 2009, 12:50	#13
RdRunnr12 Junior Member Join Date: Nov 2008 Location: San Antonio Posts: 130	Re: Offical PUBNAT 8 is OUT Anyone notice this? Current pay scale starts at $33700, if you add locality it would be higher than the figure listed below. Makes me think this could be a hint of a new, new hire pay scale. Any thoughts? From the Announcement: Upon successful completion of the Academy initial training program & other employment requirements, you will continue your training at your assigned facility on a permanent appointment with a salary between $37,463 and $43,867. __________________ Applied PubNat 5,6 AT-SAT Dec 15, 2008 AT-SAT 95% Selected for ZDV - Traditional route @ ZHU

July 6th, 2009, 12:55	#14
SFCC/UND Old Skool Join Date: Apr 2006 Location: humuhumunukunukuapuaa Posts: 3,100	Re: Offical PUBNAT 8 is OUT Keeping my fingers and toes crossed. __________________ Applied PUBNAT8 7/6/2009 AT-SAT Auth 8/13/2009 10/27/2009 AT-SAT in SLC

July 6th, 2009, 13:41	#16
greg1016 Junior Member Join Date: Apr 2009 Location: Allentown, PA Posts: 294	Re: Offical PUBNAT 8 is OUT That salary range is the base $33,700 plus the minimum locality percentage and the maximum locality percentage. That will be your pay when you report to your facility under the current pay scale __________________ 8/29/08: Pubnat 6 1/9/09: AT-SAT (94.6, WQ) 3/27/09: GeoPrefs 6/2/09: SELECTED ZNY 6/19/09 Interview at ZNY 7/1 ATL PEPC Invite 7/10 TOL in hand ZNY

July 6th, 2009, 13:52	#17
jcpilot Junior Member Join Date: Jul 2008 Location: Anchorage, AK Posts: 148 Blog Entries: 6	Re: Offical PUBNAT 8 is OUT Assuming that all the figures in the ATC Pay sticky are correct, then the starting salary range should be from $38,370 to $45,276. These figures assume the base rate of $33,700 with the minimum being the 'Rest of U.S.' locality rate of 13.86%, and the max being the San Fransisco locality rate of 34.35% __________________ Commercial Pilot AMEL - Instrument Rated 6/24/09 CHI PEPC - TOL in hand A11 (Anchorage TRACON) 8/15/09 FOL A11 8/18/09-11/04/09 FAA Academy

July 6th, 2009, 14:48	#19
CubPilot84 Junior Member Join Date: May 2009 Location: Puyallup, WA Posts: 51	Re: Offical PUBNAT 8 is OUT It's very contradicting because on the front page it says just put United States and Throughout the Nation then on the 2nd tab of the app it asks what specific counties you would like to work in Might need to meditate on what to do about this __________________ -Travis 2nd Year CTI Student 12/16/2008 PUBNAT 7 06/08/2009 AT-SAT (SEA) 06/09/2009 AT-SAT 96.8 06/06/2009 PUBNAT 8

July 6th, 2009, 15:33	#20
maschmi2 Junior Member Join Date: Oct 2003 Location: KHEF Posts: 60	Re: Offical PUBNAT 8 is OUT The very first page of the application is the "Geographic Preferences" page. I don't even see a "Throughout the US" option, otherwise I would choose it. There are options for Duty Location's 1 through 10. For each you can choose a State and City. I just listed the three states I'm interested in, and for city chose "Throughout the State". I left the other seven duty location options blank. On the next page where it asks us to put specific counties in the state we're interested in, I'm just going to leave it blank. Thoughts?

July 6th, 2009, 15:54	#21
ProudPilot Senior Member Join Date: Apr 2008 Location: Grand Forks, ND Posts: 442	Re: Offical PUBNAT 8 is OUT Scroll down the list of states. Near the bottom is says: United States. Choose that, then the second list will become "Throughout the Nation." Leave it as that. You will be able to pick geoprefs at a later date. Right now it really doesn't matter what you apply to. Here's the catch, they might see this as a mini-test if you can read directions correctly as the directions on the PUBNAT says to do this. I really don't think it matters but that's how you do it. __________________ 7/6/2009 PUBNAT8 11/13/2009 ATSAT St Charles, IL 11/18/2009 ATSAT 85.3

July 6th, 2009, 16:05	#22
Bigey Old Skool Join Date: Jan 2005 Location: Socal Posts: 3,764	Re: Offical PUBNAT 8 is OUT Wait, isnt this the first time that it asks for which positions you're willing to work (i.e. Terminal or Enroute). I wasnt able to find in the application that it says to apply "throughout the nation" ... And i just got off the phone with Aviation Careers and they said to go ahead and list the locations on the applications now? Since they're trying to get rid of the Geo-Pref Email. __________________ PUBNAT'er 4 LIFE!

July 6th, 2009, 16:16	#24
WoH Senior Member Join Date: Dec 2008 Location: Long Beach Posts: 410	Re: Offical PUBNAT 8 is OUT I also cannot find that instruction Is it on the job description?

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