Now you know: Geo-pref's on application DO matter

[teetee]

I was told by a guy at ZLC when the Febots application came out to make sure to put SLC as a preferance and then put his name on the application on who referred. I guess it worked cause my husband put ZLC then throughout the nation as his choices. He went to the PEPC and got a TOL for ZLC. So techinically my husband didn't follow the rules of putting throughout the nation, but he got the place he wanted.

[propcircles]

First things first, propcircles is a "he" not a "she", although admittedly I got a little touchy there so, my bad.

Furthermore, the person who did the selections is my source. I think that's credible wouldn't you say?

Needless to say, I feel like a retard at this point... if the info helps you out, great. If not, oh well. If you prefer to "just follow directions" well knock yer purdy selves out...

[Wyopoke79]

Originally Posted by propcircles

First things first, propcircles is a "he" not a "she", although admittedly I got a little touchy there so, my bad.

Furthermore, the person who did the selections is my source. I think that's credible wouldn't you say?

Needless to say, I feel like a retard at this point... if the info helps you out, great. If not, oh well. If you prefer to "just follow directions" well knock yer purdy selves out...

No worries mate! I believe you were told what you were told. The email I recieved was from human resources....maybe she didn't know what the heck she was talking about... I saw where one guy put IL and Co down and ended up in iowa...because his current address is from there...or maybe it was on his original application...

ALL I know is I made a huge spelling mistake/typo on my Application...
My degree...Social Studies, Secondary Eduucation <<<<< I hope that doesnt hurt me.... lol

But then, I wonder how many people are trying to get to Montana...

[pm577]

Do the best of both worlds: put all your favorite spots, and place "throughout the nation" as your very last choice.

Does this have to be brain surgery?

[mah584jr]

I believe the FAA looks at your application without question, but I definitely believe that more weight is placed on the Geo-prefs.

What would be the point of sending out geo-prefs in the first place?

[wve_iii]

I dont know what the fuss is about. If your gonna follow the directions then put the top 10 places you would like to go that is what the application asks? The announcement is for throughout the US but the application asks for your top 10 choices. So if your gonna follow the aplpication you should fill those in.

[chichi]

Originally Posted by wve_iii

I dont know what the fuss is about. If your gonna follow the directions then put the top 10 places you would like to go that is what the application asks? The announcement is for throughout the US but the application asks for your top 10 choices. So if your gonna follow the aplpication you should fill those in.

The application has spaces to put 10 locations, but if you read the application, it says to just choose "US - Throughout the Nation" and preferences will be selected at a later date.

That's what fuss is about, but I think it's time to stop fussing

[BoomerSooner77]

Originally Posted by propcircles

First things first, propcircles is a "he" not a "she", although admittedly I got a little touchy there so, my bad.

..

Oh good, I am not losing my mind. I kept thinking, I swore prop was a guy, why do they keep calling him a her?

[MrFent]

Originally Posted by chichi

The application has spaces to put 10 locations, but if you read the application, it says to just choose "US - Throughout the Nation" and preferences will be selected at a later date.

That's what fuss is about, but I think it's time to stop fussing

Direct from the application:

"Applicants should select "UNITED STATES" & "THROUGHOUT THE NATION" for location preference. Duty locations/facilities assignments will be determined at a later date."


No where does it say to JUST select throughout the nation. It says to put it down. And wow, there's 9 other slots to put other places down. People need to quit saying that putting down other selections is considered "not following directions."

Also, it says that the ASSIGNMENTS, not the PREFERENCES will be determined at a later date. When the Feb announcement first came out, I'm pretty sure they didn't quite have the whole e-mail link to the 2 slot geo pref website figured out yet. Since then, they have just recopied the instructions on to the other announcements. Those who put more than just "Throughout the Nation" are probably better off than those who put nothing more. At least they have a little more info in their application.

[chichi]

Originally Posted by MrFent

Direct from the application:

"Applicants should select "UNITED STATES" & "THROUGHOUT THE NATION" for location preference. Duty locations/facilities assignments will be determined at a later date."


No where does it say to JUST select throughout the nation. It says to put it down. And wow, there's 9 other slots to put other places down. People need to quit saying that putting down other selections is considered "not following directions."

Also, it says that the ASSIGNMENTS, not the PREFERENCES will be determined at a later date. When the Feb announcement first came out, I'm pretty sure they didn't quite have the whole e-mail link to the 2 slot geo pref website figured out yet. Since then, they have just recopied the instructions on to the other announcements. Those who put more than just "Throughout the Nation" are probably better off than those who put nothing more. At least they have a little more info in their application.

Chill please.

I never said people weren't following directions. If anything, I'm one of the few posting on this thread that isn't saying "I'm following the directions and you're not" ...I've admitted several times on this forum that I choose my own locations and leave "Throughout the Nation" as my last choice.

[Wyopoke79]

Originally Posted by chichi

Chill please.

I never said people weren't following directions. If anything, I'm one of the few posting on this thread that isn't saying "I'm following the directions and you're not" ...I've admitted several times on this forum that I choose my own locations and leave "Throughout the Nation" as my last choice.

i really dont think putting your preferences or throughout the nation matters... The email I was sent said that the preferences in the original application dont have any bearing on the selection process...I am beginning to believe the human resource lady that sent me that.....over what I read here..


Plus....I cant see them not hiring someone because they listed ten locations..instead of putting throughout the nation.

Finally... who cares anymore...we cant change anything now.

[chichi]

Originally Posted by Wyopoke79

i really dont think putting your preferences or throughout the nation matters... The email I was sent said that the preferences in the original application dont have any bearing on the selection process...I am beginning to believe the human resource lady that sent me that.....over what I read here..


Plus....I cant see them not hiring someone because they listed ten locations..instead of putting throughout the nation.

Finally... who cares anymore...we cant change anything now.

I don't know if I believe it has absolutely no bearing on the selection process, but I'll agree that I really don't think they'll turn someone down for choosing 10 locations. We've seen people on this board who selected just "Throughout the Nation" and we've seen people who selected everything but that... it doesn't seem to make any difference in whether or not you will be selected. We just don't know how much of a difference it'll make in what location you're selected for.

Everyone should do what they feel is right for them. If you want to put just "Throughout the Nation" then do that... if you want to select your own preferences, go for it. None of us know for sure, but I still wouldn't recommend putting down 10 states on the application if you're not willing to move to every single one of them... but that's just my opinion.

[BoomerSooner77]

Originally Posted by MrFent

Direct from the application:

When the Feb announcement first came out, I'm pretty sure they didn't quite have the whole e-mail link to the 2 slot geo pref website figured out yet.

I don't think they do still.

[MrBucket]

I put "United States, Throughout the Nation" as #1 on the application.
BUT.... I also put down the two states I want to work at in the next 2 slots.

[propcircles]

Originally Posted by Wyopoke79

i really dont think putting your preferences or throughout the nation matters... The email I was sent said that the preferences in the original application dont have any bearing on the selection process...I am beginning to believe the human resource lady that sent me that.....over what I read here..

One thing I am sure of is this: You cannot be sure of anything HR tells you.

I'm really confused why you (fellow cub fan) are still arguing this point based on an email from HR. The "overly friendly & helpful" HR people don't make the selections. (believe me they've made that crystal clear) so who are you going to believe? HR? or, the person that made the selections and specifically tells you it's because of what you put in your app?




HR

[Wyopoke79]

Originally Posted by propcircles

One thing I am sure of is this: You cannot be sure of anything HR tells you.

I'm really confused why you (fellow cub fan) are still arguing this point based on an email from HR.

Fellow Cub Fan..... STEVE BARTMAN...IS THAT YOU!



Must have been a Cubs fan that selected you to go to Alaska....
quit getting so defensive and oversensitive.... seriously, take a FAA approved chill pill...


Go Cubbies...

[BoomerSooner77]

AYE DE MI! QUE LASTIMA... MADRE DE DIOS!!

Pobre citos

[scongdon]

Originally Posted by pm577

Do the best of both worlds: put all your favorite spots, and place "throughout the nation" as your very last choice.

Does this have to be brain surgery?

Exactly, but I can see how folks who changed their minds on a specific location could be a little concerned. When I filled out my OTS apps, I filled in the boxes as they read, from 1st preference to last, all the way down to "throughout the US."

Now, call me over-analytical, but could it be that the application process is a bit outdated, and the FAA finds it easier to send a simple "location filter e-mail," aka, geo-prefs, to get two simple, stern answers from each applicant as opposed to a list of ten?

[bigdil511]

There might be another explanation, the FAA gets confused depending on who you talk to or who your HR person might be. I think the "rules" on hiring and stuff will depend really on who is running it, I could see someone saying lets mess with this person and give him alaska, and everyone getting a good laugh out of it. The truth is there may not be any rules, they look at both your GEO pref, and your asap and look to see where they need people more. Thats my opinion.

[Charlee]

Originally Posted by bigdil511

I could see someone saying lets mess with this person and give him alaska, and everyone getting a good laugh out of it.

I sure hope not.......

[Triger37]

Originally Posted by pm577

Do the best of both worlds: put all your favorite spots, and place "throughout the nation" as your very last choice.

Does this have to be brain surgery?

You need to be reminded this is government red tape. It takes more then brains to figure it out...
It takes completely forgetting common sense.

[pm577]

Originally Posted by scongdon

Now, call me over-analytical, but could it be that the application process is a bit outdated, and the FAA finds it easier to send a simple "location filter e-mail," aka, geo-prefs, to get two simple, stern answers from each applicant as opposed to a list of ten?

Here's needless speculation:
-FAA looks at facilities by state
-panel says: "Let's look at the facilities in Texas..."
-panel says: "okay, mr.contractor that did the GeoPrefs, show me all applicants requesting Texas"
-Contractor hands over list of Texas GeoPref applicants
-panel starts to place people, while looking at their ASAP...
-Panel sees the additional ASAP pref, and perhaps modifies accordingly (or more likely: they're just lazy and throw people at random facilities in the state)

[BoomerSooner77]

PM577, you're such a dumb ass. It goes like this. They throw all the apps with attached geos in the middle of the parking lot. Then the panel dresses up in their ceremonial picking of the candidates attire. At that point they all join in a big circle around all the apps and they start playing polka music. Once the music stops they all rush into the middle of the circle grab an app, run to their designated file tray and runs back to the original circle. Whoever makes it back last is deemed 'defense'. Their new job is to stand in the middle of the circle and block as many of the panel as they can from grabbing apps on the next round. This goes on until there's only one person left, they choose an app and the game is over until the next panel, all other applicants rejected. I was able to find an exclusive picture of the ceremony (although I'll probably be shot for sharing).

[HonuPineapple]

Originally Posted by BoomerSooner77

PM577, you're such a dumb ass. It goes like this. They throw all the apps with attached geos in the middle of the parking lot. Then the panel dresses up in their ceremonial picking of the candidates attire. At that point they all join in a big circle around all the apps and they start playing polka music. Once the music stops they all rush into the middle of the circle grab an app, run to their designated file tray and runs back to the original circle. Whoever makes it back last is deemed 'defense'. Their new job is to stand in the middle of the circle and block as many of the panel as they can from grabbing apps on the next round. This goes on until there's only one person left, they choose an app and the game is over until the next panel, all other applicants rejected. I was able to find an exclusive picture of the ceremony (although I'll probably be shot for sharing).

I want to apply for that job.

[pm577]

hmmm...