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[strykr]

Originally Posted by reedo11

Does anyone else find these numbers to be a little bit off. I find it hard to believe the highest paid atc at a level 9 facility is getting paid 85 thousand a year. Am I wrong?

Welcome to the NEW ATC!

[reedo11]

Originally Posted by strykr

Welcome to the NEW ATC!

? Did they make it lower this year? I saw something a few months ago that said the highest paid at msy which is a level 9 was around 135 in 07

[K-Dog]

Originally Posted by reedo11

? Did they make it lower this year? I saw something a few months ago that said the highest paid at msy which is a level 9 was around 135 in 07

There were pay cuts of about 30% across the board. The link to the new pay scale is on this forum in many places. There may be people there making more, but they are grandfathered in. The new people are on a lower pay scale.

[Luftwaffe]

https://employees.faa.gov/employee_s...o_locality.xls

those are current pay scales, without the locality

[reedo11]

Originally Posted by Luftwaffe

https://employees.faa.gov/employee_s...o_locality.xls

those are current pay scales, without the locality

So now ATC's Won't really break 100 thousand. That sucks. I wonder if a lot of controllers are walking away after they gave them a 30 percent pay cut. I would. What hapend to them needed ACt's? Figured they would raise it to attract more people if anything.

[Piker]

Originally Posted by reedo11

I wonder if a lot of controllers are walking away after they gave them a 30 percent pay cut. I would.

The old controllers are still on the old pay system. They only get on the new pay system if they switch facilities. So most of the older controllers are staying exactly where they are--there's no incentive to go to a higher level station. This is one reason why the FAA has opened up the process to us OTS applicants.

[Wyopoke79]

How long after the selection board meets will it be before we hear when the next pepc is? Will we find out our Tenative offers before the Pepc? I am just trying to guess how long we have...

I was going to start a new thread for this....but hoping i get an answer here.

[BoomerSooner77]

Originally Posted by Wyopoke79

How long after the selection board meets will it be before we hear when the next pepc is? Will we find out our Tenative offers before the Pepc? I am just trying to guess how long we have...

I was going to start a new thread for this....but hoping i get an answer here.

Well, we only have 1 PUBNAT to base off of right now... we found out about 3 weeks after selection panels about PEPCs. You don't get an TOL until your PEPC, right after your interview (the first part of the PEPC). You should however find out your facility if you're enroute or your state if your Terminal before your PEPC, after panels.

[chichi]

Originally Posted by BoomerSooner77

Well, we only have 1 PUBNAT to base off of right now... we found out about 3 weeks after selection panels about PEPCs. You don't get an TOL until your PEPC, right after your interview (the first part of the PEPC). You should however find out your facility if you're enroute or your state if your Terminal before your PEPC, after panels.

And the panel dates floating around are the week of 9/8 for terminal and the week of 9/29 for enroute... so we still have some more time to sit around and wait.

[HonuPineapple]

Originally Posted by chichi

And the panel dates floating around are the week of 9/8 for terminal and the week of 9/29 for enroute... so we still have some more time to sit around and wait.

I think PUBNAT3 is done with the AT-SAT (at least no one here has posted a date this week).

It will be interesting to see if they throw the geo prefs out to us quickly so that we can be considered for those panels.

Shouldn't be a problem for you guys if that happens; there weren't many applicants in our group (if AT-SAT turnout is an indication).

[hudson26]

Originally Posted by chichi

And the panel dates floating around are the week of 9/8 for terminal and the week of 9/29 for enroute... so we still have some more time to sit around and wait.

I don't know how they can hold panels on different dates (especially so far apart)? So en route gets the left overs? Doesn't make any sense...

[chichi]

Originally Posted by HonuPineapple

I think PUBNAT3 is done with the AT-SAT (at least no one here has posted a date this week).

It will be interesting to see if they throw the geo prefs out to us quickly so that we can be considered for those panels.

Shouldn't be a problem for you guys if that happens; there weren't many applicants in our group (if AT-SAT turnout is an indication).

If they send your geo prefs out this week, you'll get 3 weeks to select before the 9/8 panels, which is what they did for FEBOTS and us... I'm still thinking you guys will be thrown in with us for panels.

[chichi]

Originally Posted by hudson26

I don't know how they can hold panels on different dates (especially so far apart)? So en route gets the left overs? Doesn't make any sense...

Not a clue, but those are the dates that are out there in several different places.

[BoomerSooner77]

Originally Posted by hudson26

I don't know how they can hold panels on different dates (especially so far apart)? So en route gets the left overs? Doesn't make any sense...

Leftovers? I don't understand what you're saying. If you're enroute you won't get "leftovers" from tower selections... two different things entirely.

Are you saying you selected both? If so, are you saying you don't really want enroute?

[K-Dog]

Originally Posted by BoomerSooner77

Leftovers? I don't understand what you're saying. If you're enroute you won't get "leftovers" from tower selections... two different things entirely.

Are you saying you selected both? If so, are you saying you don't really want enroute?

Looks to me like you chose ARTCC or Terminal...are you saying you can't make up your mind? Just because someone is willing to take what they can get doesn't mean they don't have a preference one way or the other. Also, I haven't seen to many people that limit themselves to Terminal or Enroute, they are mostly saying they will go anywhere. That being said, in my opinon, having the panels weeks apart would be a disadvantage for the folks on the en-route hiring panel as they would (barring any other pre-selection process we don't know about) be getting the "leftovers".

[Wyopoke79]

Originally Posted by BoomerSooner77

Well, we only have 1 PUBNAT to base off of right now... we found out about 3 weeks after selection panels about PEPCs. You don't get an TOL until your PEPC, right after your interview (the first part of the PEPC). You should however find out your facility if you're enroute or your state if your Terminal before your PEPC, after panels.

Do we get more than 1 pepc to choose from?

[BoomerSooner77]

Originally Posted by Wyopoke79

Do we get more than 1 pepc to choose from?

They sent us all three (NY, MEMP, CHI) with the dates of each and asked us which one we wanted... first come first served kinda thing.

[HonuPineapple]

Originally Posted by BoomerSooner77

They sent us all three (NY, MEMP, CHI) with the dates of each and asked us which one we wanted... first come first served kinda thing.

Do you have to go to the one closest to your facility? Or your home?

Otherwise it seems like it would be best to get to the earliest one possible, right?

[BoomerSooner77]

Originally Posted by HonuPineapple

Do you have to go to the one closest to your facility? Or your home?

Otherwise it seems like it would be best to get to the earliest one possible, right?

I chose the one most convenient for me. NYC was way too quick and I was in the process of packing... Memphis was the week I moved, had thought about it and there weren't enough options to fly direct (don't do connections unless I HAVE to... ie Manila) and then CHI dates were perfect, so I chose that.

[esw2005]

Originally Posted by HonuPineapple

Do you have to go to the one closest to your facility? Or your home?

Otherwise it seems like it would be best to get to the earliest one possible, right?

You go to the earliest one you can attend. Keeping that in mind, reply to your emial asap. I received my email while I was floating the river, 4 days later I replied. I could have made it to the first PEPC(NYC) but I knew since I was delayed for four days, I would have had a better chance getting MEM. What do you know I got MEM. There were some people that picked NYC but were put on a waiting list becasue it filled up to quickly.

[Ammolite]

Originally Posted by chichi

Not a clue, but those are the dates that our out there in several different places.

There was an FAA rep. from the hiring dept. present at our test, and he said there was a "mini-panel" (he called it) coming up, and that he doubted that PUBNAT3 would be included in that.

[Ammolite]

Where are all of the PEPC locations, aside from NYC, Memphis, Chicago, LA? Is that all?

[BoomerSooner77]

Originally Posted by Ammolite

There was an FAA rep. from the hiring dept. present at our test, and he said there was a "mini-panel" (he called it) coming up, and that he doubted that PUBNAT3 would be included in that.

Would this be the "mini-panel" you speak of?

[Wyopoke79]

How far apart were the pepc dates....?

[esw2005]

Originally Posted by Ammolite

Where are all of the PEPC locations, aside from NYC, Memphis, Chicago, LA? Is that all?

Fort Worth, TX, but not very often