It's not that hard... - Page 2

808av8 · October 27th, 2009, 00:47

Good old MYF. I miss it already.

It's not that hard..... to look for traffic on short final before crossing.
...... to give er full throttle and go around.

At least nobody got hurt.

blee256 · October 27th, 2009, 01:20

Quote:

Originally Posted by dhc2tacksby

To deny a clearance if you don't thnk you can accomplish it safely.

Yeah I'm talking to you MYF instructor from Sunday afternoon.

I think you should take care of your frustration in the ATP office instead of a public message board.

mshunter · October 27th, 2009, 10:09

Quote:

Originally Posted by dhc2tacksby

I have no doubt I was the harkening of someone elses woah's.
The controller gives me a yardstick every time they give me a clearance; it's up to me as the pilot/PIC to use 1" or the whole yard safely.

Like I've said in the previous post's to this thread, it was whoever was touching the controls of the Seminole who made a poor decision.

I do understand your frustration, but I think it may be misplaced a little. One should never rush aviation. Thats a gaurentee to get hurt.

ETAV8R · November 18th, 2009, 07:35

From my history of working in operations at a busy and complicated airport it sounds like an incursion to me...and to the FAA as well:
http://www.faa.gov/airports/runway_safety/
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Runway_incursion

BobDDuck · November 18th, 2009, 20:47

Quote:

Originally Posted by dhc2tacksby

Dude in the Seminole was cleared to taxi across when we were 1 mile final. Decide not to start moving until we were over the numbers. Having a few hours in the ol beast myself I know it's a handful taxiing straight ahead (yes that was sarcasm)

Quote:

Originally Posted by ETAV8R

From my history of working in operations at a busy and complicated airport it sounds like an incursion to me...and to the FAA as well:
http://www.faa.gov/airports/runway_safety/
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Runway_incursion

How? He had a clearance to cross the runway.

I'm not saying he did the right thing by taking forever to get across, but unless the controller told him to hold short after he gave him the crossing clearance, no regs were broken.

PFGiardino · November 19th, 2009, 08:49

It's flight training... I've learned it's best not to let things like this chap my rear. It teaches the student that anything can happen, and as much as I hate the phrase, to "expect the unexpected."

Not a runway incusrion on behalf of the pilot, btw. It's the same as someone taking too long to roll out. Cleared to be there, just outstaying their welcome. If anything, an operational error. But I doubt it. Did ATC direct you to go around, or did you take it upon yourself?

SteveC · November 25th, 2009, 14:38

Relax a tad.

Wouldn't want beer spilled on Doug's living room carpet.

GlenA · November 25th, 2009, 19:01

you're right, I took it off

The mention of beer gave me a warm fuzzy..

SteveC · November 25th, 2009, 19:25

October 27th, 2009, 00:47	#26
808av8 Newbie Join Date: Mar 2008 Location: Honolulu Hawaii Posts: 12	Re: It's not that hard... Good old MYF. I miss it already. It's not that hard..... to look for traffic on short final before crossing. ...... to give er full throttle and go around. At least nobody got hurt.

November 18th, 2009, 07:35	#29
ETAV8R Senior Member Join Date: Dec 2003 Location: SoCal Posts: 708	Re: It's not that hard... From my history of working in operations at a busy and complicated airport it sounds like an incursion to me...and to the FAA as well: http://www.faa.gov/airports/runway_safety/ http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Runway_incursion

November 19th, 2009, 08:49	#31
PFGiardino Junior Member Join Date: Jul 2007 Location: Buffalo, New York Posts: 289	Re: It's not that hard... It's flight training... I've learned it's best not to let things like this chap my rear. It teaches the student that anything can happen, and as much as I hate the phrase, to "expect the unexpected." Not a runway incusrion on behalf of the pilot, btw. It's the same as someone taking too long to roll out. Cleared to be there, just outstaying their welcome. If anything, an operational error. But I doubt it. Did ATC direct you to go around, or did you take it upon yourself? __________________ Paul Giardino // CFI // CFII Last edited by PFGiardino; November 19th, 2009 at 08:52. Reason: to digress

November 25th, 2009, 14:38	#32
SteveC Old Skool? Naw, just Old! Join Date: May 2003 Location: GRR Posts: 12,083	Re: It's not that hard... Relax a tad. Wouldn't want beer spilled on Doug's living room carpet. __________________ . Either write something worth reading or do something worth writing. (Benjamin Franklin)

November 25th, 2009, 19:01	#33
GlenA Junior Member Join Date: Feb 2008 Location: here, there, everywhere Posts: 286	Re: It's not that hard... you're right, I took it off The mention of beer gave me a warm fuzzy.. __________________ Imaging my face off.

November 25th, 2009, 19:25	#34
SteveC Old Skool? Naw, just Old! Join Date: May 2003 Location: GRR Posts: 12,083	Re: It's not that hard... __________________ . Either write something worth reading or do something worth writing. (Benjamin Franklin)

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