ATP 4 Day Multi- Program

danster6872 · September 3rd, 2009, 00:39

I'm considering attending ATP to get my Multi add on which is running at $1995 and takes 4 days. I'm considering this because my local FBO only has one twin which is a Piper Seneca which runs $267 an hr plus $46 hr for an instructor. I believe doing it at my FBO will be far more expensive based on the prices I just mentioned and will take longer due to availablilty of the one twin aircraft they have and availablilty of an instructor to do get it done quickly. If anyone has any feedback on the ATP Multi add on program as to whether it's a good program and worth the price, it would be appreciated.

nuball5 · September 3rd, 2009, 00:48

Yes I think doing the 4 day Multi Program is a good idea if the FBO you're referring to is more expensive. The multi training at ATP, at least for me, was top notch. It all depends on what instructor you work with. The seminole simulator helps a lot too.

If you do decide to get the rating through ATP, make sure you hit and study the supplement they send you HARD!

danster6872 · September 3rd, 2009, 00:58

Thanks for the Feedback. Just curious as to which ATP location you trianed at.

nuball5 · September 3rd, 2009, 01:13

Trenton, New Jersey

SpiraMirabilis · September 3rd, 2009, 07:13

Just have the seminole supplement pretty well memorized on your first day and everything should go well, its a really quick couple of days

mojo6911 · September 3rd, 2009, 10:34

What do you expect to get out of it? No one will let you rent a twin with less than 10 hours in type, much less 10 hours total multi engine time. You need 15 hours of multi-engine time to get your MEI, if you want to that.

How many hours are included? I wouldn't think it is more than 5 hours, which is $400/hour.

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This 4 day course provides two or more FTD sessions, two training flights between 1.5 and 2.0 hours each, and the use of the aircraft for the checkride.

The 10 hour program looks to be a better deal. You get 10 hours of Seminole time, you are a safer pilot after 10 hours, and it looks like it is a better value for your money.

danster6872 · September 3rd, 2009, 18:21

im actually considering doing the 10 hr program which is an extra $800, which still works out to be cheaper for the same amount of hours out of my local FBO. Thanks for evryone's feedback so far.

Sled14 · September 3rd, 2009, 21:35

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Originally Posted by danster6872

im actually considering doing the 10 hr program which is an extra $800, which still works out to be cheaper for the same amount of hours out of my local FBO. Thanks for evryone's feedback so far.

I'd recommend paying the extra $800 and getting 10 hours. Which locations are you looking at?

danster6872 · September 3rd, 2009, 23:06

I'm looking at either Trenton, NJ or Richmond, VA locations which are the closest to my home.

Fly764 · September 5th, 2009, 15:58

Know quite a few people who went to TTN for the 10 hour and were successful. Seems alot of people in NJ have the same problem with FBO's being expensive for twins

myron96 · September 15th, 2009, 23:35

I did mine in Richmond.. Was top notch, excellent training.. They do things very efficiently when it comes to the Multi rating.. Like others said, just make sure you have the seminole supplement down pat and you will do fine...

crazyjeep · September 16th, 2009, 00:41

Not a big fan of ATP. But Richmond is a good place to do it. Examiners are fair, and the two CFI's remaining there are pretty good. I know both of them.

See ATP, I can say something nice.

Seminole is pretty easy to fly, and is forgiving. Vmc demo is a null event. One of the examiners put her foot behind the pedal to leave some rudder just in case the wing starts to flip, but it wont. TTN is an alright place, but I think you'd be happier with Richmond, facilities are nicer, the airport is way cooler.

tlewis95 · September 17th, 2009, 03:25

I am also considering going to an ATP location between semesters (probably december '09) to get the commercial-multi add-on taken care of.

Is that the 10 hour program or does the commercial take more time than that?

AP2B · September 17th, 2009, 03:45

If you plan on earning an MEI certificate, wouldn't getting rated asap at the lowest possible cost behoove you?

Sure, not everyone is gonna go for an MEI, but I'm just saying. I'll take the "crash or pass" with the CMEL.

+ i'm poor in a way.

AP2B · September 17th, 2009, 11:46

Just to make the distinction, I'm strictly referring to adding the CMEL certificate.

Going through the FBO, I would bet you would get that 15 PIC just working on the MEI, then whatever follow on (instructing / multi) experience before you would be assigned some multi students.

Anyway, ATP seems like they know how to churn out multi engine pilots. Sounds like enough reason to head over to EYE and check it out.

September 3rd, 2009, 00:39	#1
danster6872 Newbie Join Date: Jun 2009 Location: stamford Posts: 7	ATP 4 Day Multi- Program I'm considering attending ATP to get my Multi add on which is running at $1995 and takes 4 days. I'm considering this because my local FBO only has one twin which is a Piper Seneca which runs $267 an hr plus $46 hr for an instructor. I believe doing it at my FBO will be far more expensive based on the prices I just mentioned and will take longer due to availablilty of the one twin aircraft they have and availablilty of an instructor to do get it done quickly. If anyone has any feedback on the ATP Multi add on program as to whether it's a good program and worth the price, it would be appreciated.

September 3rd, 2009, 00:48	#2
nuball5 Newbie Join Date: May 2009 Location: Philadelphia, Boston Posts: 21	Re: ATP 4 Day Multi- Program Yes I think doing the 4 day Multi Program is a good idea if the FBO you're referring to is more expensive. The multi training at ATP, at least for me, was top notch. It all depends on what instructor you work with. The seminole simulator helps a lot too. If you do decide to get the rating through ATP, make sure you hit and study the supplement they send you HARD!

September 3rd, 2009, 00:58	#3
danster6872 Newbie Join Date: Jun 2009 Location: stamford Posts: 7	Re: ATP 4 Day Multi- Program Thanks for the Feedback. Just curious as to which ATP location you trianed at.

September 3rd, 2009, 01:13	#4
nuball5 Newbie Join Date: May 2009 Location: Philadelphia, Boston Posts: 21	Re: ATP 4 Day Multi- Program Trenton, New Jersey

September 3rd, 2009, 07:13	#5
SpiraMirabilis Old Skool Join Date: Jun 2006 Posts: 3,345 Blog Entries: 1	Re: ATP 4 Day Multi- Program Just have the seminole supplement pretty well memorized on your first day and everything should go well, its a really quick couple of days __________________ Yet Another Freight Puppy*

September 3rd, 2009, 18:21	#7
danster6872 Newbie Join Date: Jun 2009 Location: stamford Posts: 7	Re: ATP 4 Day Multi- Program im actually considering doing the 10 hr program which is an extra $800, which still works out to be cheaper for the same amount of hours out of my local FBO. Thanks for evryone's feedback so far.

September 3rd, 2009, 23:06	#9
danster6872 Newbie Join Date: Jun 2009 Location: stamford Posts: 7	Re: ATP 4 Day Multi- Program I'm looking at either Trenton, NJ or Richmond, VA locations which are the closest to my home.

September 5th, 2009, 15:58	#10
Fly764 Junior Member Join Date: Sep 2007 Location: Ewing, NJ Posts: 32	Re: ATP 4 Day Multi- Program Know quite a few people who went to TTN for the 10 hour and were successful. Seems alot of people in NJ have the same problem with FBO's being expensive for twins

September 15th, 2009, 23:35	#11
myron96 Junior Member Join Date: Aug 2004 Posts: 212	Re: ATP 4 Day Multi- Program I did mine in Richmond.. Was top notch, excellent training.. They do things very efficiently when it comes to the Multi rating.. Like others said, just make sure you have the seminole supplement down pat and you will do fine... __________________ Far better it is to dare mighty things, than to rank with those poor spirits who neither enjoy nor suffer much because they live in the gray twilight that knows neither victory nor defeat.

September 16th, 2009, 00:41	#12
crazyjeep Junior Member Join Date: Jan 2008 Location: Detroit, Michigan Posts: 136	Re: ATP 4 Day Multi- Program Not a big fan of ATP. But Richmond is a good place to do it. Examiners are fair, and the two CFI's remaining there are pretty good. I know both of them. See ATP, I can say something nice. Seminole is pretty easy to fly, and is forgiving. Vmc demo is a null event. One of the examiners put her foot behind the pedal to leave some rudder just in case the wing starts to flip, but it wont. TTN is an alright place, but I think you'd be happier with Richmond, facilities are nicer, the airport is way cooler. __________________ Crazyjeep CFI CFI-I MEI

September 17th, 2009, 03:25	#13
tlewis95 Senior Member Join Date: Apr 2008 Location: Carbondale, IL Posts: 1,334	Re: ATP 4 Day Multi- Program I am also considering going to an ATP location between semesters (probably december '09) to get the commercial-multi add-on taken care of. Is that the 10 hour program or does the commercial take more time than that? __________________ CSEL/G - IR "It's not a hobby, it's a lifestyle"

September 17th, 2009, 03:45	#14
AP2B Senior Member Join Date: Jul 2005 Location: IND Posts: 843	Re: ATP 4 Day Multi- Program If you plan on earning an MEI certificate, wouldn't getting rated asap at the lowest possible cost behoove you? Sure, not everyone is gonna go for an MEI, but I'm just saying. I'll take the "crash or pass" with the CMEL. + i'm poor in a way. __________________

September 17th, 2009, 11:46	#15
AP2B Senior Member Join Date: Jul 2005 Location: IND Posts: 843	Re: ATP 4 Day Multi- Program Just to make the distinction, I'm strictly referring to adding the CMEL certificate. Going through the FBO, I would bet you would get that 15 PIC just working on the MEI, then whatever follow on (instructing / multi) experience before you would be assigned some multi students. Anyway, ATP seems like they know how to churn out multi engine pilots. Sounds like enough reason to head over to EYE and check it out. __________________

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