50 hours of FTD

[DaveS3212]

200 Hours Logged Time
190 Hours Multi-Engine Time
75 Hours Multi-Engine Cross-Country
62 Hours Multi-Engine Instruction
& Flight Checks
3 Hours Citation 501 Jet
50 Hours Multi-Engine FTD
10 Hours Single-Engine Time

ATP Tells you that you get 50 hours 190 hour of multi but I found out yesterday that this 50 hours FTD time is in a simulator. Is this true? If this is the case is it really worth paying all the money for the non flight time

[junior]

FTD=Flight Training Device
You can use 50 hrs toward your commercial ticket and 20 Toward your Instrument in an approved training device under Part 61.

[DaveS3212]

I understand that you can log the time, but is it worth having 50 hours of the sim time?

[pscraig]

Worth it, in terms of training value or credentials for a job? For getting a job, no, FTD time isn't going to help. But for training, the value is huge. It is far better to learn approach procedures in an indoor FTD/sim with air conditioning and few distractions, where you can really concentrate. When it becomes time to fly it, it's just like the sim and you have the procedures down cold. If something doesn't click, you can do it over in the sim until you get it right and it doesn't cost anything. The aircraft is better left for practice and refining your technique you developed in the sim.

I don't have a sim at my office (I'm a one-instructor ATP office) but wish I had one-it saves a lot of time in the aircraft that would otherwise be spent learning basic procedures.

[Bumblebee]

Additionally during sim training, should you get behind the airplane during a procedure, your instructor can pause the sim. You can then make an analysis of the situation, determine the correction, and then make the adjustment without having to go around. This actually helps with the learning process in a much faster way, by allowing the correction to occur while the error is still fresh in your mind.

[DaveS3212]

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Additionally during sim training, should you get behind the airplane during a procedure, your instructor can pause the sim. You can then make an analysis of the situation, determine the correction, and then make the adjustment without having to go around. This actually helps with the learning process in a much faster way, by allowing the correction to occur while the error is still fresh in your mind.

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Agree that some sim time does help you through the training process, but after talking with several people a sim can never take the place of the real thing. Also 50 hours of sim time and $271 dollars an hour for real flight time seems a bit high also. $38000/140hours Just trying to get the best deal and the best training. Nevertheless I will be visiting both ari ben and atp soon.

[mtsu_av8er]

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. . .after talking with several people a sim can never take the place of the real thing.

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This is correct, but that's not the intent of using an FTD in training. In essense, using an FTD will save you time and money in the end!!