Whoa! Outside CFI Salary Raised??

[LoadMasterC141]

Was just thumbing through the ATP website (For the bazillionth time) and noticed the CFI page has changed.

http://www.atpflightschool.com/jobs/..._campaign=acpp

Flight Instructor Pay

• Airline Career Pilot Program Graduates:
  • $2,000 per Month Guarantee
• Other CFIs:
  • $2,000 per Month Guarantee after 90 Days
  • $1,600 per Month Guarantee for first 90 Days
  • FREE Regional Jet Standards Certification Program ($5,995 Value)
• All Instructors:
  • Approximately $400 per Month in Performance Bonuses
  • $500 Starting Bonus
  • FREE Housing in Jacksonville for Standardization
  • Housing Available at Training Centers for $300 per Month (Furnished, No Lease)

Looks like outside CFi pay has gone up from $1200 to $1600 in first 90 days, and then above that to $2000 (Same as ACP grad) after that.

I am guessing that they need alot more CFIs.

[v1valarob]

Would love to see airlines raising their pay as well. Pretty sad when your salary goes down when you move from a C172 to a Regional A/C.

-Rob

[LoadMasterC141]

LoL third time in 2008 I have goofed up spelling in the topic title!

I hear ya Rob. I was originally thinking of trying to rush through my CFI time if I got on with ATP. Now, I think I would stick around and wait for the right opportunity if the wage is as livable as this.

[SteveC]

Originally Posted by LoadMasterC141

LoL third time in 2008 I have goofed up spelling in the topic title!

Got your back. This time...

[v1valarob]

Originally Posted by LoadMasterC141

LoL third time in 2008 I have goofed up spelling in the topic title!

I hear ya Rob. I was originally thinking of trying to rush through my CFI time if I got on with ATP. Now, I think I would stick around and wait for the right opportunity if the wage is as livable as this.

Yea, my current CFI gig brings in about $2k a month on average. Which as we all know is more than most first year FO pay. Also getting to make my own schedule is a plus.

-Rob

[yardman]

I am trying to get my CFI done by sometime this yr. Hopefully I'll be able to get on with one of the locations. Sounds like a really great place to build time and garner the experience necessary to make the next step. I'm just curious to find out if the $2000/mth varies with hours instructed. What is the average hours at the Houston location? Does dual given vary by location?(ofcourse in the northeast location or colder climates it wld vary)

[LoadMasterC141]

You get paid a flat rate of $1600 for the first 90 days and then $2000 each month past that, regardless of hours. Rest assured, they will get their moneys worth (So I have heard anyway).

From that, you get bonuses based mainly on your students passing checkrides the first time.

As far as dual-given in general and at the HOU location, it varies I am sure. although, weather permitting, I have heard it is pretty easy to do 80-100 hrs/mth.

[Maurus]

When I saw this I started to think about applying there. Not a bad deal at all, only problem is that I think I would end up flying too much and not getting my school work done.

[FlyingPoke]

Thanks a lot for posting that, havent looked there in a while... good motivation to hurry and get my CFII and MEI done already so I can apply...

[SIUav8er]

Its good to hear ATP is raising the pay for non ACP instructors. Its still a joke that they start out at 1600 for the first 90 days, but its a start.

I just put my logbook into logbook pro. During my instrucing "career" at ATP, I averaged 78 hours a month. my highest month was 120 hours, lowest was 30.

[ufgators]

Are they really hurting for instructors now?

[meyers9163]

Originally Posted by v1valarob

Yea, my current CFI gig brings in about $2k a month on average. Which as we all know is more than most first year FO pay. Also getting to make my own schedule is a plus.

-Rob

Eh..... I wouldnt go that far.... 2k from ATP is with taxes not taken out. Therefore you have to take that out before you think its 2k.... You will make more then that at an airline.... You just have to be smart with how you spend it!

[CFII2008]

Originally Posted by SIUav8er

Its good to hear ATP is raising the pay for non ACP instructors. Its still a joke that they start out at 1600 for the first 90 days, but its a start.

I just put my logbook into logbook pro. During my instrucing "career" at ATP, I averaged 78 hours a month. my highest month was 120 hours, lowest was 30.

What type of bonuses did you average?

[v1valarob]

Originally Posted by meyers9163

Eh..... I wouldnt go that far.... 2k from ATP is with taxes not taken out. Therefore you have to take that out before you think its 2k.... You will make more then that at an airline.... You just have to be smart with how you spend it!

I know your at PSA so you have better knowledge than me but the top 3 airlines Im looking at going to according to APC these are the pay at monthly guarantee:

AE - $1728
Republic - $1725
Air Wisconsin - $1875

And those are before taxes. You cant count per diem and going over guarantee into those.

-Rob

[meyers9163]

Originally Posted by v1valarob

I know your at PSA so you have better knowledge than me but the top 3 airlines Im looking at going to according to APC these are the pay at monthly guarantee:

AE - $1728
Republic - $1725
Air Wisconsin - $1875

And those are before taxes. You cant count per diem and going over guarantee into those.

-Rob

I could agree... 2k minus taxes.... That'd be nearly 25 percent gone..... Therefore you are talking only 1500 after its all said and done with.... Then you dont get insurance, travel bennies, per diem to pay for your food while working...... 2k isnt bad by no means..... but when you put it into perspective it might be close but not QUITE as good IMO....

[SIUav8er]

ha! none of the CFIs at ATP apy taxes... lol

[Clocks]

Originally Posted by meyers9163

I could agree... 2k minus taxes.... That'd be nearly 25 percent gone..... Therefore you are talking only 1500 after its all said and done with.... Then you dont get insurance, travel bennies, per diem to pay for your food while working...... 2k isnt bad by no means..... but when you put it into perspective it might be close but not QUITE as good IMO....

I made so little money last year I got about $350 back from the state and feds, even with almost half my income from ATP

[SoonerAv8r]

ATP instructors are contract labor. And if you are in Texas there's no state income tax. You just get a 1099 at the end of the year. If you factor in the housing and other expenses on your itemized deductions you shouldn't be having to pay much in to the Feds either.