Dress Code for ATP?

[PilotBeckfizzle]

Guys/Gals,

I will be leaving Denver on Sunday for Long Beach, CA where I will do the 4 day Multi Commercial add-on.

What is the appropriate attire for the training? Flip flops and shorts or polo shirt and khakis, or somewhere in between?

Also, for the check ride are the DPE's expecting a suit and tie or can we get away with a polo and khakis?

Lastly, anyone ever flown out of Long Beach? How's the aiport, ATPs facilites in that area, ATC, etc. Just curious...

Thanks for your time,

[v1valarob]

Assuming LGB is the same as Riverside. Shorts and shirt for training and khakis and polo for checkride.

[PilotBeckfizzle]

Originally Posted by v1valarob

Assuming LGB is the same as Riverside. Shorts and shirt for training and khakis and polo for checkride.

Thanks for the info man.

[alknew182]

In Daytona we did business causal for all training and checkrides. No shorts, no flip flops, and no T-shirts... But that was Daytona just call up the location and ask them...

[Vyse]

I wouldn't wear flip-flops, my experience has been that a lot of instructors and examiners (not just at ATP) tend to dislike that. Otherwise shorts/shirt/khakis/polos are okay at LGB.

ATC: The airport is complicated, there's a lot going on but at the same time there's a lot of cool stuff if you like planes. Review the airport diagram if you haven't done so already. Unless there's construction you're likely to use runway 25L and then 31 for the ILS approaches. Read back everything- ATC will get on your case if you don't.

I took the exact same course at LGB about a month ago- feel free to PM if you have any specific questions.

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[RPJ]

MoreRightRudder, what examiner did you use for your M.E. program at KLGB?

[Vyse]

Reed Novisoff.

[Airdale]

Let me input my two cents here.

Training to be a professional pilot? What image do you wish to portray to those who will train and evaluate you, even if its just an add on rating? If you want to be professional, you should dress and act accordingly.

Nothing is worse then flying an airplane when its 85+ degrees out wearing pants. So in this case, a nice pair of khaki shorts is fine.

I personally think you should dress appropriately. No flip flops, no sandals. Nice shoes, a nice polo or button down shirt and either khaki pants or shorts.

Suit and Tie is not necessary for checkrides, and most examiners don't want you dressing like that. But business casual is best.

Nothing annoyed me more as an instructor at ATP then students showing up wearing raggy clothes. I felt like I was training Joe Schmo the weekend warrior rather then a Professional Pilot.

[N826AW]

I agree with Airdale. Collared short sleeve shirt and golf shorts are fine. I'm not sure about other locations but flip flops and other open-toed shoes do not fly at the PHX location, literally.

[PilotBeckfizzle]

Well, returned from LGB and they don't really care what you wear. As long as you wear shoes. Instructors all wore the ATP polo but that was about as far as that went.

LGB is a kick ass location, a lot of great people there!

[ATOflyer]

i don't see a problem with wearing sandals in the office, however when u go up to fly throw some shoes on. i've had my share of slob days where i'd just throw a hat on because i had just hopped out of bed but thats only when u are flying with your instructor at the butt crack of dawn or late at night, and even then your instructor could care less cuz hes looking like a slob too lol. when it's 100 degrees out there i'd much rather wear some sandals up till the last minute...maybe its just a socal thing i dont know. sandals in the plane is pretty dangerous imo.
BUT, collared shirt and slacks for the checkride...don't look like a slob.
good luck and have fun in longbeach.

[Direct-enter-enter]

Take the check ride naked!! Tends to keep the DE from looking at you too much.

[Fly4Pay]

Originally Posted by Airdale

Let me input my two cents here.

Training to be a professional pilot? What image do you wish to portray to those who will train and evaluate you, even if its just an add on rating? If you want to be professional, you should dress and act accordingly.

Nothing is worse then flying an airplane when its 85+ degrees out wearing pants. So in this case, a nice pair of khaki shorts is fine.

I personally think you should dress appropriately. No flip flops, no sandals. Nice shoes, a nice polo or button down shirt and either khaki pants or shorts.

Suit and Tie is not necessary for checkrides, and most examiners don't want you dressing like that. But business casual is best.

Nothing annoyed me more as an instructor at ATP then students showing up wearing raggy clothes. I felt like I was training Joe Schmo the weekend warrior rather then a Professional Pilot.

I take a bit of a different attitude toward this. For the checkride, if you feel like "dressing", fine. But for training, if I'M paying THEM to train me (as opposed to having my employer train me), then I'll whatever I want to--I'm the employer. It's my nickel. If I want to wear cutoff jean shorts and an AC-DC t-shirt from 1982, who are they to judge. My credibility comes from my performance, not my appearance.

Now, as an instructor, that's a different matter. In this case, the instructor is the employee, and should portray a professional image. It helps provide credibility.

So what did I wear to my ATP training/checkride? Khaki shorts and a polo shirt to both. But that's 'cause that's what I wanted to wear.