How Hard For Fast PPL

[Do3r17]

Hey guys, I recently read a thread about some people actually completing their PPL in as little as 14 days. I was wondering how fast you did it, and exactly how hard and how much commitment it required, as well as time in th week?

[v1valarob]

Originally Posted by Do3r17

Hey guys, I recently read a thread about some people actually completing their PPL in as little as 14 days. I was wondering how fast you did it, and exactly how hard and how much commitment it required, as well as time in th week?

Took me 7 months to get to the requirements for a PPL. Then anything bad that could happen without crashing did. The plane broke down, my instructor moved and the school didnt help out like I hoped they would. So it took a year in the end to do it. 14 days is a really short amount of time to go from no flying to have a license, but I can see it being done.

If I where to do it again, I would do ATP's 60 day fast track program.

If you where to have shown me ATP's program for PPL at $10,000 and 85 hours before beginning, I would have thought you where crazy, money wise. But after it took me a year and 65 hours, I spent almost close to that figure and have 20 hours less and no IFR lessons.

The whole get your PPL in 40 hours and $4500 is a joke. It can be done, but only on a rare occasion.

-Rob

[SmitteyB]

I got my Private at Ari-Ben Aviator for $3,300.

[Danny_PR]

Originally Posted by SmitteyB

I got my Private at Ari-Ben Aviator for $3,300.

In How many days, months?

[SmitteyB]

Originally Posted by Danny_PR

In How many days, months?

34 days, and mind you this was 2 years ago. The price is now $4500-5000. Still a good deal.

I'm not trying to turn this into an anti-ATP thread. They're a great school.

[Danny_PR]

Originally Posted by SmitteyB

34 days, and mind you this was 2 years ago. The price is now $4500-5000. Still a good deal.

I'm not trying to turn this into an anti-ATP thread. They're a great school.

Good to know that, Iam really looking info for that school, and planning to going there.

[Captain_Bob]

Originally Posted by SmitteyB

34 days, and mind you this was 2 years ago. The price is now $4500-5000. Still a good deal.

I'm not trying to turn this into an anti-ATP thread. They're a great school.

Originally Posted by Danny_PR

Good to know that, Iam really looking info for that school, and planning to going there.

Yep... you can definately get your PPL cheaper elsewhere... Ari is $5k coupled with their pro-program.

ATP's PPL is $9K not $10k... Still pricey... but the big difference with ATP's program is that it's 85 hours of TT with the introduction of Instrument training & procedures and XC's for the 40 hours over and above what it takes to get the PPL. Therein lies the price difference.

Bob

[v1valarob]

Originally Posted by Captain_Bob

Yep... you can definately get your PPL cheaper elsewhere... Ari is $5k coupled with their pro-program.

ATP's PPL is $9K not $10k... Still pricey... but the big difference with ATP's program is that it's 85 hours of TT with the introduction of Instrument training & procedures and XC's for the 40 hours over and above what it takes to get the PPL. Therein lies the price difference.

Bob

Ah, your right. $8,995. Even better! I thought it was $9,995 so I rounded up. Is Ari's for 40hours or for more? Either way $4-5k is a GREAT price if they guarantee a PPL for that price.

-Rob

[Captain_Bob]

Yeah... they do... since it's coupled with their pro-program then you have to finish the PPL before you move up to the pro-program. Just like at ATP.

Smittey can chime in better than me... but I'm thinking you'll probably easily get your PPL through Ari in around 40-45 hours. That seems to be the going number for part 61 schools that are 30-60 day programs. After that initial 40-45 at Ari... then you move into the pro program. At ATP... you hang out a bit and build the time to 85 hours TT.

Bob

[Do3r17]

If you guys dont mind me asking, what is the difference between part 141 and part 61? Why choose one over the other? Are there any other part #'s, and what is the difference between them?

[Chewie von Nubbins]

Originally Posted by Do3r17

If you guys dont mind me asking, what is the difference between part 141 and part 61? Why choose one over the other? Are there any other part #'s, and what is the difference between them?

Party foul.

http://www.google.com/search?q=part+...ient=firefox-a

[Do3r17]

lol, you know what, I'm normally the one doing that to ppl. Finally someone gets back at me

[Chewie von Nubbins]

Originally Posted by Do3r17

lol, you know what, I'm normally the one doing that to ppl. Finally someone gets back at me

Party on!

[SpiraMirabilis]

ATP's PPL program is a very good value. For example the cost of an instructor at the school I teach at is $35/hr for flight/ground school. At ATP ... 9000/85 = $105/hr for just the flight time (plane + instructor).
You also, however go to groundschool every day for a month almost all day that you are not flying and have free housing provided for you.
If you were to get a private pilot's license and 85 hours at my school with the reasonable cost of $86/hr for a 172 that would be $7310 for the plane, and 75 hours of dual (85 minus 10 hours solo) would be an additional $2625. This is already more than ATP and I haven't yet considered in any groundschool or the value of the free housing ATP provides.

ATP's private pilot program is one of the best values I've seen in the aviation industry. It is a shame that their ACPP that you need to put a nonrefundable $1,500 deposit for is not worth it anymore.

[fly8slep]

Originally Posted by Do3r17

If you guys dont mind me asking, what is the difference between part 141 and part 61? Why choose one over the other? Are there any other part #'s, and what is the difference between them?

Difference is that you are eligible for the commercial license at 190 in pt 141 instead of 250 hours at pt61. It's really pointless to go 141 because usually it's more expensive than pt61 and you will need at least 250-300 hours for a CFI job anyways. Point is that you will have to make up that 60 hours in the long run.