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Old April 15th, 2007, 14:13   #1
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Does the ATP written course at ATP prepare you for how to figure the pallet loading questions and some of the advanced flightplanning (DC9) etc.. or is it advised to study that prior to coming for the 1 day class? Trying to figure out if I need to study before or just show up...

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Old April 15th, 2007, 17:11   #2
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Does the ATP written course at ATP prepare you for how to figure the pallet loading questions and some of the advanced flightplanning (DC9) etc.. or is it advised to study that prior to coming for the 1 day class? Trying to figure out if I need to study before or just show up...

Thanks for any info!!!
I've never seen anyone ever fail the ATP written when they do the ATP written course. (Not saying it's never happened.)

Granted, the course is just sit at the computer and go through the test bank but it is very effective after you've read through the gleim book.
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Old April 15th, 2007, 22:20   #3
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thanks for the info. I will probably buy the Gleim to study ahead of time. Just curious what those who took the ATP at ATP!? recommended.
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Old April 18th, 2007, 21:42   #4
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anyone else taken this course?
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Old April 18th, 2007, 21:54   #5
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I am scheduled to take it next month. From what I understand, it's main purpose is to pass and nothing more. Just rote memorization. I actually want to understand the material and know what they mean so I purchased the Gleim software to help me out and pre-prep me for the test. Does anyone actually know how many questions are possible?
The Gleim has something around 1,400 and 150 Part 135, so I am guessing that 1,250 questions for the 121 test.???????
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Old April 18th, 2007, 22:00   #6
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There are approximately 500+ questions that are used 95% of the time on the ATP written. Those are the questions you will study during the ATP test course.

Airborne is correct in stating that it is rote memorization... it's designed for someone who actually has NO knowledge at the start of the class and be able to pass by 6:00pm. In other words... it's designed so that even my mother could pass the test by just showing up at 8:00am and following their course guidline.

The primary customer for this class is Military guys getting out who have never taken an FAA test before, and 121 FO's on the verge of upgrade.

If you are paying for additional study material... then why even go take the course? Just study on your own and take the test when you feel comfortable.

My take... get the dang test out of the way by taking the course... then study what you want to comprehend more in depth.

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Old April 18th, 2007, 22:10   #7
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500+? That sure beats the hell outta 1400+! I'm guessing that they eliminate the repetetive type questions that are worded differently but have the same answer. Thanks Bob
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http://forums.jetcareers.com/airline-transport-professionals-atp/37122-seggy-went-to-atp.html

Do the course. Well worth it.
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Old April 21st, 2007, 13:12   #9
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Thanks for the responses! Sounds like no advance study needed.
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Old April 25th, 2007, 18:26   #10
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Definately don't study the pallet questions they're too easy to bother. You divide by 144 or something. You'll be able to do them all after reading the explanation for the first one. ATP's prep has 558 questions and they just recently sent all the locations about 15 or 20 more of the latest ?s in the FAA bank, like about WAAS and VNAV and precision radar and such. The additional questions will be on dittos and you should remind your proctor if he doesn't mention them because I had about 8 questions on my real test that were from these additional ?s.
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Once you sign up for the course, they will send you a small study sheet. Basically its just formulas for the pallet loading and other w & B questions. Just study those are you will be fine.

I have proctored many in my day and There have been one or two that have failed. But both of them, english was their second language, which i think had more to do with it than anything. You shouldnt have any problems, no matter how little you study for it.

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