60 PPL program

GJ1 · March 7th, 2007, 18:10

Is there anyway I can just do the 60 day PPL program without doing the 44,000 dollar airline career thing that goes after it?

fly8slep · March 7th, 2007, 18:48

Why? You can do it for much cheaper at the local FBO.

SpiraMirabilis · March 7th, 2007, 19:34

No, you have to put a $1,500 deposit down for the career program before you do the private. At 85 hours for the program it comes out to about $105/hr for the instructor, a 172, and housing for 60 days. You may be able to find it cheaper -- if you did it would be a good price.
If you recalculate it with the $1,500 you would have to forfeit it would come out to $123/hr for plane + instructor. Still beats some FBO's out there. The planes are in good shape but they're kind of old, all IFR certified though.

Airdale · March 7th, 2007, 19:51

I'm not sure you can beat the price of the PPL program. I did it last August and it was awesome. They get you done fast and with the housing provided, all you have do is bring linens, buy food and bring your brain.

But no, you can not do the PPL program alone. The program was designed to help students meet the requirements for the ACPP, and if I'm not mistaken, the PPL program hasn't been around nearly as long as the career pilot program.

fly8slep · March 7th, 2007, 20:15

Private is probably the hardest license to get, not only is there a whole bunch of info but also you have to learn how to fly. You'd probably want more than a few weeks in order to be competent with all aspects of regs and flight.

SoCalAprch · March 7th, 2007, 21:27

First off why get your Private at ATP and then not do the career thing?

Im guessing you have either found another school for the more advanced ratings or you just want to fly for fun... If you want to fly for fun, ATP isn't the school you should goto. ATP isn't for the weekend warriors but more set up to get you the ratings you want and get you into a job in the aviation industry (instructing then onto something else). Research more and you will find that there are other places that will fit your needs if your plans are just flying as a hobby. If you want to get all your ratings and want to be a professional then ATP is the place to do it. But if it's just so you can fly your buddys around on a clear day I would look elsewhere.

GJ1 · March 7th, 2007, 22:06

^^^ I just want to get my PPL out of the way... I've been working on it on and off since 02' but because of school and other situations its taking forever.

I hoping that i could go to this 60 day PPL program and get these 85 hrs this summer then go to my FBO and get my instrument the next summer... Then just get a new rating every summer untill I go to ATP again for the CFI,I,MEI program.

Sooo by the time I am a senior in college i could get a job around here as a CFI.

SoCalAprch · March 7th, 2007, 23:33

I see what you are saying. If you are willing to loose the $1500 deposit you could do it.

fly8slep · March 8th, 2007, 00:49

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Originally Posted by GJ1

^^^ I just want to get my PPL out of the way... I've been working on it on and off since 02' but because of school and other situations its taking forever.

I hoping that i could go to this 60 day PPL program and get these 85 hrs this summer then go to my FBO and get my instrument the next summer... Then just get a new rating every summer untill I go to ATP again for the CFI,I,MEI program.

Sooo by the time I am a senior in college i could get a job around here as a CFI.

I'm confused. If you're already working on the ppl why are you looking at ATP? ATP is not a mom and pop school for individual ratings, it's pro training.

GJ1 · March 8th, 2007, 02:16

Man I know that lol...

Like I just said I keep on starting on my PPL but something always happens that puts it on hold... So I was thinking taht if I just went somewhere to get this rating quick and get it out the way.

I just dont want to take the extra 90 days and 44k to do the pro training

Captain_Bob · March 8th, 2007, 02:46

GJ...

I'm thinking that if you plopped 6K in front of a local CFI/Flight School... and said... "get me done in less than two months..." they could do it.

Get it in writing... and that would put the pressure on you... and them to perform and "Git 'r done".

Bob

March 7th, 2007, 18:10	#1
GJ1 Senior Member Join Date: May 2002 Location: Cincinnati, Ohio Posts: 608	60 PPL program Is there anyway I can just do the 60 day PPL program without doing the 44,000 dollar airline career thing that goes after it? __________________ http://www.logshare.com/log.jsp?email=the747@msn.com ^ Need to update.. lol

March 7th, 2007, 18:48	#2
fly8slep Senior Member Join Date: Jul 2006 Location: stl Posts: 370	Re: 60 PPL program Why? You can do it for much cheaper at the local FBO.

March 7th, 2007, 19:34	#3
SpiraMirabilis Senior Member Join Date: Jun 2006 Posts: 1,196	Re: 60 PPL program No, you have to put a $1,500 deposit down for the career program before you do the private. At 85 hours for the program it comes out to about $105/hr for the instructor, a 172, and housing for 60 days. You may be able to find it cheaper -- if you did it would be a good price. If you recalculate it with the $1,500 you would have to forfeit it would come out to $123/hr for plane + instructor. Still beats some FBO's out there. The planes are in good shape but they're kind of old, all IFR certified though.

March 7th, 2007, 19:51	#4
Airdale Old Skool Join Date: May 2005 Location: Dirty Jerzey Posts: 2,063	Re: 60 PPL program I'm not sure you can beat the price of the PPL program. I did it last August and it was awesome. They get you done fast and with the housing provided, all you have do is bring linens, buy food and bring your brain. But no, you can not do the PPL program alone. The program was designed to help students meet the requirements for the ACPP, and if I'm not mistaken, the PPL program hasn't been around nearly as long as the career pilot program. __________________ Just say NO to Teamsters

March 7th, 2007, 20:15	#5
fly8slep Senior Member Join Date: Jul 2006 Location: stl Posts: 370	Re: 60 PPL program Private is probably the hardest license to get, not only is there a whole bunch of info but also you have to learn how to fly. You'd probably want more than a few weeks in order to be competent with all aspects of regs and flight.

March 7th, 2007, 21:27	#6
SoCalAprch Senior Member Join Date: Feb 2006 Location: CMH Posts: 758	Re: 60 PPL program First off why get your Private at ATP and then not do the career thing? Im guessing you have either found another school for the more advanced ratings or you just want to fly for fun... If you want to fly for fun, ATP isn't the school you should goto. ATP isn't for the weekend warriors but more set up to get you the ratings you want and get you into a job in the aviation industry (instructing then onto something else). Research more and you will find that there are other places that will fit your needs if your plans are just flying as a hobby. If you want to get all your ratings and want to be a professional then ATP is the place to do it. But if it's just so you can fly your buddys around on a clear day I would look elsewhere. __________________ Florence Y'all

March 7th, 2007, 22:06	#7
GJ1 Senior Member Join Date: May 2002 Location: Cincinnati, Ohio Posts: 608	Re: 60 PPL program ^^^ I just want to get my PPL out of the way... I've been working on it on and off since 02' but because of school and other situations its taking forever. I hoping that i could go to this 60 day PPL program and get these 85 hrs this summer then go to my FBO and get my instrument the next summer... Then just get a new rating every summer untill I go to ATP again for the CFI,I,MEI program. Sooo by the time I am a senior in college i could get a job around here as a CFI. __________________ http://www.logshare.com/log.jsp?email=the747@msn.com ^ Need to update.. lol

March 7th, 2007, 23:33	#8
SoCalAprch Senior Member Join Date: Feb 2006 Location: CMH Posts: 758	Re: 60 PPL program I see what you are saying. If you are willing to loose the $1500 deposit you could do it. __________________ Florence Y'all

March 8th, 2007, 02:16	#10
GJ1 Senior Member Join Date: May 2002 Location: Cincinnati, Ohio Posts: 608	Re: 60 PPL program Man I know that lol... Like I just said I keep on starting on my PPL but something always happens that puts it on hold... So I was thinking taht if I just went somewhere to get this rating quick and get it out the way. I just dont want to take the extra 90 days and 44k to do the pro training __________________ http://www.logshare.com/log.jsp?email=the747@msn.com ^ Need to update.. lol

March 8th, 2007, 02:46	#11
Captain_Bob Old Skool Join Date: Apr 2003 Location: DFW, based in ONT, wishing I was in Maine Posts: 3,861	Re: 60 PPL program GJ... I'm thinking that if you plopped 6K in front of a local CFI/Flight School... and said... "get me done in less than two months..." they could do it. Get it in writing... and that would put the pressure on you... and them to perform and "Git 'r done". Bob __________________ My head is in the clouds and my heart is still in Maine... but my devotion and love belong to my wife and children. Pics!

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